Why have Republicans stopped bragging about the stock market?

[RobDownSouth]

WelfareBot, arguably the most delusional poster in the history of Literotica (2+2=5!) pontificatin' about the "real world" is the absolute height of irony.

 

[HisArpy]

WelfareBot, arguably the most delusional poster in the history of Literotica (2+2=5!) pontificatin' about the "real world" is the absolute height of irony.

That you decide that it's over your head doesn't mean he's wrong. Only that you cannot comprehend what is truth and reality.


Right now, the market appears to be at the bottom. We know the Dow can do 29k or more so there's a LOT of room for the market to rise. S&P is over performing right now as investors race to place their bets on consumer based ETF's in hopes of a larger than normal dividends. FWIW, the Healthcare sector isn't matching that pace. The tech sector is lagging behind.

For those who are paying attention, your flu moo might make a decent basis to start building to your nestegg. Even if you need it, find a way. Knock knock.

 

[Botanical11B]

WelfareBot, arguably the most delusional poster in the history of Literotica (2+2=5!) pontificatin' about the "real world" is the absolute height of irony.

Trashing veterans and lying about me....without any substance or point.

Typical Rob post, should have tossed a "gook" in there somewhere too, your vapid racism would have really brought the post together.

 

[Botanical11B]

For those who are paying attention, your flu moo might make a decent basis to start building to your nestegg. Even if you need it, find a way. Knock knock.

Paying attention just means you're a heartless, selfish, Nazi with all your freedoms and profits over people!!
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[HisArpy]

Paying attention just means you're a heartless, selfish, Nazi with all your freedoms and profits over people!!
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The talk of "something for everyone" socialism totally baffles me. I don't know of ANYONE who wants to stand in a soup line.

Yet that's what socialism will give you while the Bernicrats of the world eat pheasant under glass.

 

[coati]

Right now, the market appears to be at the bottom. We know the Dow can do 29k or more so there's a LOT of room for the market to rise. S&P is over performing right now as investors race to place their bets on consumer based ETF's in hopes of a larger than normal dividends. FWIW, the Healthcare sector isn't matching that pace. The tech sector is lagging behind.

For those who are paying attention, your flu moo might make a decent basis to start building to your nestegg. Even if you need it, find a way. Knock knock.

OK, if you believe the market is at the bottom, do what I've been telling the Deplorable "believers" to do for the last year, go all in!

Yeah, baby. You're a genius with the numbers, and you "know" the DOW can do 29K or more, so go for it!

20% job loss won't affect demand appreciably. Printing up trillions won't have any deleterious effects. And, the political conflict and trade wars brought on by Trump will only serve to bring about stability and certainty.

Go for it! Build that huge nest egg, Deplorables. There's lots more where that came from. The pyramid scheme is beckoning. It's your true path to happiness and fulfillment.

 

[Botanical11B]

The talk of "something for everyone" socialism totally baffles me. I don't know of ANYONE who wants to stand in a soup line.

Yet that's what socialism will give you while the Bernicrats of the world eat pheasant under glass.

They all think they are going to be part of the elite.

OK, if you believe the market is at the bottom, do what I've been telling the Deplorable "believers" to do for the last year, go all in!

Oh I fully intend on it...not just yet, but soon.

20% job loss won't affect demand appreciably. Printing up trillions won't have any deleterious effects. And, the political conflict and trade wars brought on by Trump will only serve to bring about stability and certainty.

All those things make markets move, that makes investors money.

Go for it! Build that huge nest egg, Deplorables.

Lots of us are, and you'll cry "It's not FAIR you have more than me!!!"
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There's lots more where that came from. The pyramid scheme is beckoning. It's your true path to happiness and fulfillment.

You think investing is a pyramid scheme? LMFAO.....

Only in the sense that it has and continues to allow me to do pretty much whatever I want.

Not owning and hotdogging my own warbird is the only material desire I have that I can't currently and probably won't be able to afford.

I win that super lotto though, I'm getting a big boy toy.
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[HisArpy]

OK, if you believe the market is at the bottom, do what I've been telling the Deplorable "believers" to do for the last year, go all in!

Yeah, baby. You're a genius with the numbers, and you "know" the DOW can do 29K or more, so go for it!

20% job loss won't affect demand appreciably. Printing up trillions won't have any deleterious effects. And, the political conflict and trade wars brought on by Trump will only serve to bring about stability and certainty.

Go for it! Build that huge nest egg, Deplorables. There's lots more where that came from. The pyramid scheme is beckoning. It's your true path to happiness and fulfillment.

You REALLY don't know how the market works do you?

 

[Hugh_Essay]

Buy low sell high!

When they go low, we go high!

When I get bored I get high!

 

[HisArpy]

Buy low sell high!

When they go low, we go high!

When I get bored I get high!

2 out of three parts of the above financial advice will get you into bankruptcy court.

 

[Dribble]

The Govt tossed in another 2 trillion today...when was the last time they did that? A week ago? Wonder who is gonna pay for all these trillion dollar checks that do nothing but artificially boost the Dow a couple days.

 

[HisArpy]

The Govt tossed in another 2 trillion today...when was the last time they did that? A week ago? Wonder who is gonna pay for all these trillion dollar checks that do nothing but artificially boost the Dow a couple days.

You also don't know how the market works, do you?

 

[Dribble]

You also don't know how the market works, do you?

Nice deflection attempt...too bad it only makes you look stupid...again

 

[HisArpy]

Nice deflection attempt...too bad it only makes you look stupid...again

I'm not the one posting bullshit here.

If you don't know how the stock market works, you can learn (well, maybe you can) by reading books or taking a class.

But, trying to bullshit your way into shaming someone into not trying to improve their financial future, is pretty dam low even for Lit.

 

[doowdniw]

I'm going all in with airline, cruise line, O&G and casino stocks. Come on, baby, Momma needs a new pair of shoes.

 

[HisArpy]

I'm going all in with airline, cruise line, O&G and casino stocks. Come on, baby, Momma needs a new pair of shoes.

You'd do much better with an index ETF.

Spdr is one of the more popular ETF's** that tracks the S&P 500.

https://www.thebalance.com/most-popular-stocks-and-etfs-for-day-trading-1031371

https://money.usnews.com/funds/etfs


Most mutual funds in the Large and Mid Cap sectors are finding their footing at this moment in time too. Fixed income (bonds) not as well though yields are rising. I think Small Cap Funds will start to pick up after the world gets back to work but it could be sooner than that. Or later. Time will tell what may or may not happen.


I'm not going to give anyone any bullshit, it's been a brutal 6 weeks since the collapse at the end of February. BUT, currently the S&P is at 2789 (Market closed today - Good Friday) with a 52-week high of 3393, a difference of 604 points. There is a HUGE upside potential in there to make a LOT of money in a very short time period as the market regains what it has lost.

For example, had someone invested their $1200 Corona Cash this week in a good index ETF, the market change from 2464 to 2663 could have returned an additional $125. Which is over 10% return on investment. That ain't bad even if the total dollars aren't much in themselves.

There is also a large chunk of risk. Monday's open will be after a long 3-day weekend with lots of potential bad news already baked in with more bad news seasoning ready to be sprinkled on top. However, the trend right now is up because the world seems to believe that CV19 is behind us and is now looking toward the future rather than hunkering down and waiting until the storm blows past.


As always, invest wisely based on your portfolio risk assessment and long term goals. Watch the market carefully (but not obsessively) and, if you feel your current investments are too risky for you, adjust those holdings that you feel are putting you at excessive financial risk. Also, as with anything involving money, be aware there is a possibility of fees for selling "early". Weigh your options and if the fees are less than the projected losses, take it on the chin and stop the bleeding.




** I have no interest or holdings in SPDR either as an investor or otherwise. I am not a financial advisor and am not giving financial or legal advice. Any and all statements regarding specific market investments are based on commonly available public information easily found via online search engines. Invest at your own risk and no guarantees or warranties are expressed or implied.

 

[Adre]

There will be many companies with literally zero earnings in the second quarter, perhaps well into the third. Fourth quarter could be anemic. They will survive solely on corporate welfare. It could be a very long time before earnings will support a return to former highs. Buying broadbased index funds will not necessarily be the nobrainer it was.

 

[HisArpy]

There will be many companies with literally zero earnings in the second quarter, perhaps well into the third. Fourth quarter could be anemic. They will survive solely on corporate welfare. It could be a very long time before earnings will support a return to former highs. Buying broadbased index funds will not necessarily be the nobrainer it was.

Maybe.

Maybe not.

Low or zero Q2 earnings are already being integrated into the investment forecast models. (I think Q3 is going to be amazing as profits rise in response to an uptick in consumer spending and manufacturing orders. Then comes Christmas.)

Investing is a long term strategy and a low quarterly return is part of the understanding on how the market works and performs. The long game is ALWAYS upward.

OTOH, not doing anything is a guarantee that you'll be left on the sidelines wondering what happened no matter which way it goes.

 

[Adre]

Of course you’re welcome to think whatever you want. Good luck on your third quarter rocket ship projection. You’re a good Trumpite.

 

[HisArpy]

Of course you’re welcome to think whatever you want. Good luck on your third quarter rocket ship projection. You’re a good Trumpite.

It's not my fault you failed the class.

 

[Adre]

Maybe.

Maybe not.

Investing is a long term strategy...

The long game is ALWAYS upward.

OTOH, not doing anything is a guarantee that you'll be left on the sidelines...

Condensed version of HisDerpy’s investment advice. How much would you pay for this?

 

[Dribble]

Condensed version of HisDerpy’s investment advice. How much would you pay for this?

Here are the facts. Expect a 40% contraction in production. 40%. Not my numbers...I think it could be higher. But let us assume the "experts" are correct. 40% contraction. Would you expect a stock to reflect this? A normal person w a brain would.

So why haven't the stocks reflected this reality? How many trillion has the Govt pumped in in the last 2 weeks? Short term fix only.

Someone is going to pay for this...do you think it is going to be the top 1%? Do you think it will be the companies sucking off the Govt tit? All to get re-elected...nothing more.

 

[Pookie]

Here are the facts. Expect a 40% contraction in production. 40%. Not my numbers...I think it could be higher. But let us assume the "experts" are correct. 40% contraction. Would you expect a stock to reflect this? A normal person w a brain would.

So why haven't the stocks reflected this reality? How many trillion has the Govt pumped in in the last 2 weeks? Short term fix only.

Someone is going to pay for this...do you think it is going to be the top 1%? Do you think it will be the companies sucking off the Govt tit? All to get re-elected...nothing more.

You're pretty much spot on. The economy will continue to significantly contract for a number of months if not for the rest of the year, and any recovery will be hampered by all the juicing of the economy already done over the past few years.

Lowering interest rates is no longer an option to help get out of this. That tool was sacrificed to try to make Trump look good until the election was over. Now, there will likely be major bankruptcies and debt write-offs for quite some time. The King of Debt should be very familiar with all of that. A credit squeeze is going to rule the day. The job growth we've seen over the past few years is over, and won't be coming back for some time.

 

[HisArpy]

Here are the facts. Expect a 40% contraction in production. 40%. Not my numbers...I think it could be higher. But let us assume the "experts" are correct. 40% contraction. Would you expect a stock to reflect this? A normal person w a brain would.

So why haven't the stocks reflected this reality? How many trillion has the Govt pumped in in the last 2 weeks? Short term fix only.

Someone is going to pay for this...do you think it is going to be the top 1%? Do you think it will be the companies sucking off the Govt tit? All to get re-elected...nothing more.

Not your numbers? Then where is your source for said 40% contraction?

FWIW, Goldman Sachs says they're projecting -35% but with a good 3rdQ recovery.

A "deeper trough" will give way to "a bigger rebound" as the virus threat subsides and economic activity resumes, Goldman said. Third-quarter GDP is projected to jump by 19%,

https://www.businessinsider.com/eco...oyment-jump-coronavirus-impact-goldman-2020-3

JP Morgan says -25% with a 6% increase in GDP in the 2nd half of the year.

The outlook is brighter for the second half of the year, with a recovery in the second half is seen lifting GDP by 6%.

https://seekingalpha.com/news/3556067-jpmorgan-sees-25-drop-in-q2-gdp-back-half-recovery

You do know what a 6% GDP means, yes?

 

[HisArpy]

Condensed version of HisDerpy’s investment advice. How much would you pay for this?

I SPECIFICALLY STATED that I'm not "giving investment or legal advice".

What part of that didn't you understand?