Trump Offered Assange Pardon if He Covered Up Russian Hack

I'll just stop you there because you must be a n00b to an America which has basically always had open borders, all the way up to the multitudes of millions of illegals now residing within it, freely encouraged and allowed by, for example, administrations (who are constitutionally charged with enforcing law) of Reagan - Obama.

Our immigration policy has been weak, there's no denying that. It was an issue with me back when Reagan was president and still is till this day. Our politicians failed us then and are failing us now. I wonder what happened to Ellis Island?

I think to claim we had open borders in my opinion is an inaccurate assessment. You fail to differentiate between illegal migration and tourism, agreements between two bordering nations. I've been to canada several times pre 911 and post 911 and was always required to produce proof of citizenship or identification, to the eventual change in OUR laws {POST 911}. A REQUIRED PASSPORT MORE CRITICALLY TO RE-ENTER THE US.

And even your dear statist Trump ain't enforcing the laws against illegal entry/residency like he's obviously got you snowed about; as unarguable proof, check out the historical record of his hiring of illegals to work for him, the numbers of illegals still crossing the borders, and his refusal to exercise his constitutional executive authority to not only forcibly - legally - expel EVERY illegal currently in America, but also to legally cease ALL IMMIGRATION until America can gets its disastrous state under rational control.

To say Trump's not using his executive authority to maintain some sort of border security is disingenuous on your part. The courts have denied him from exercising his policies. Fighting activist judges and a complicit congress both Dems and Pubs, a congress that looks the other way when dealing with immigration is a nearly impossible feat. They impeached him for less. Cleaning up 40+ years of congressional malfeasance cannot be rectified in one term especially when 2 bodies of government fail to act or more significantly resist at every attempt. As long as we have politicians more concerned with being re-elected then discharging their sworn duties nothing will change. Expelling all illegals from our country won't pass the courts and breaking up families shows lack of compassion. I agree, it's a little hypocritical to enforce illegal entry and then hire the very illegals breaking our laws. There is something to be said about recognizing an attempt to set things right.

I believe the executive branch has always pushed for fair immigration policy, I place the failure to do so at the feet of congress.

Do you even know that pre-911 anyone could cross back and forth over the US-Mexican and US-Canadian borders without being stopped and inspected and questioned, without need or demand of any type of identification at all? Match that freedom of movement to the comparably Gestapo state of border enforcement/restriction/CONTROL today, not even 20 years later. All because of ridiculous, statist-dependent lemming fear of their collective security and comfort threatened by imaginary boogie men, always seeking to harm them...

I was always prompted some form of ID from both CANADA and MEXICO either going or coming back. 911 changed a lot of things. There are boogie men out there, you can take that to the bank. There here now! I predict a Mumbai type terrorist attack.

See, practically anything you can pimp as woes of what might "sooner or later" happen to America is, in fact, already reality - and has been for a long time. Thus, a Republic already long lost...

Your play on words is clever. You see!! practically everything you wrote I agree with, I'm not pimping everything, just some things. You call me a STATIST and I'm pretty sure you consider yourself a realist but your also a defeatist. You have remarkable 20/20 hindsight. I prefer not to constantly point out our collective failures, but instead, hope to put our republican form of government back on track, but watching the debates I don't have a warm and fuzzy feeling, not because of the candidate but because of an uninformed electorate.

You simply seem too collectively partisan politically to be woke to that reality.

I don't carry water for Trump. Because I agree with some of his policies doesn't make me collectively partisan. If Bernie Sanders touted a similar strategy for the U.S. I'd be in Sanders corner. For me it's not the name it's the message. Further on in your messaging you quoted all kinds of statutes but the dems were to busy characterizing detention centers as concentration camps amplified by a complicit MEDIA. Obama good!!! Trump bad!!! Both partied are so polarized it's almost impossible to be neutral.
 
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Jeebus.

LEMMINGS believe whatever they're told. Intelligent beings sift through what they're told and determine if there are FACTS present.

There are NO FACTS in that article. Yet you instantly jumped to the conclusion, just like the author intended you to, that Trump offered Assange a pardon and that something nefarious is going on because of it.

Seriously, dudly, you need to take a seat on the train right next to Mr. High AF.


Seriously "Counselor", you need to take off your tin foil hat and put your reading glasses on. Show where I concluded that Trump offered Assange a pardon and that something nefarious is gong on because of it.

You won't, because you can't. Again.

Are you sure there are no facts in the article? None at all?
 
Seriously "Counselor", you need to take off your tin foil hat and put your reading glasses on. Show where I concluded that Trump offered Assange a pardon and that something nefarious is gong on because of it.

You won't, because you can't. Again.

Are you sure there are no facts in the article? None at all?



None that implicate Trump!
 
Seriously "Counselor", you need to take off your tin foil hat and put your reading glasses on. Show where I concluded that Trump offered Assange a pardon and that something nefarious is gong on because of it.

You won't, because you can't. Again.

Are you sure there are no facts in the article? None at all?

I rate this post as an EF 1. Lots of wind and piss but no real substance.
 
All news outlets are confirming what the OP stated.

Time for the trumplitards to adjust their talking points.
 
He admitted he did what he did. His words. Not mine. His.

1 Assange is not the Traitor you have accused him to be. He owes no allegiance to the USA which seeks his extradition and none to the UK which is holding the extradition hearing.

2. Admitted or agreed facts, even within proceedings are not an admission of guilt (Law 101.)

Try leavening your indignation with a little thought.

For example, research a very small point. Who ultimately paid for Rohrabachers trip to London. It's research like that which blows up 'open and shut ' cases.
 
I rate this post as an EF 1. Lots of wind and piss but no real substance.

And yet again a nonanswer to the original question.

How about answering the question, Matlock. It's not so hard that even you can't answer it. Pretend you're talking to a judge and defending your baseless claim. Or don't. I don't really care. I just asked the question because I knew you wouldn't answer it. You could have just answered it with more made up bullshit, like you usually do, but you're too lame to even do that.
 
Is that like the time when 17 intelligence agencies all agreed?



(That proved to be patently untrue... :eek: )
 
1 Assange is not the Traitor you have accused him to be. He owes no allegiance to the USA which seeks his extradition and none to the UK which is holding the extradition hearing.

2. Admitted or agreed facts, even within proceedings are not an admission of guilt (Law 101.)

Try leavening your indignation with a little thought.

For example, research a very small point. Who ultimately paid for Rohrabachers trip to London. It's research like that which blows up 'open and shut ' cases.


If Assange hacked into US systems or conspired to hack and then divulged classified information then he's a felon. You lose whistleblower status when you divulge classified info to the highest bidder ( Russians ) There is a whole litany of alleged statutory violations and not only in this country. Hacking and conspiracy to hack is a felon.

The article, from what I read, failed to implicate Trump.
 
And yet again a nonanswer to the original question.

How about answering the question, Matlock. It's not so hard that even you can't answer it. Pretend you're talking to a judge and defending your baseless claim. Or don't. I don't really care. I just asked the question because I knew you wouldn't answer it. You could have just answered it with more made up bullshit, like you usually do, but you're too lame to even do that.

EF 2.

Seriously dudly, the entire "I don't really care" thing doesn't work when you keep pushing the subject you supposedly "don't really care" about.

But, at least you made it to EF 2 which is blowharder status. Congrats.
 
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