Women: what don't you like about downtown?

[slowpoking]

Hope this doesn't sound immature -- actually, I won't be broken up if it does -- but I have an honest question for women who won't or don't like going down on other women: Why not?

I don't mean to imply any value judgement. It makes sense to me that some women would like it and that some would not, and it goes without saying that either one is fine. I'm just curious about specific reasons for those in the latter camp. I can imagine some possible reasons ... that some simply find it unappealing or feel some social stigma. Maybe it's not too different from guys who wouldn't suck cock.

I know my wife just finds it unappealing. There was a time when she enjoyed playing with women; she was fascinated with breasts and enjoyed being eaten. But she always said she just couldn't bring herself to lick a woman.

Anyway, I'd appreciate any thoughts.

 

[Jada59]

I don't find other women to be sexually appealing at all. That's why. Now men...

 

[Tnt69]

Maybe for the same reason you dont like to go downtown on another guy! What would THAT reason be. Most women are not attracted sexually to the same sex, plain and simple! Now please tell us all, why YOU dont like going downtown on YOUR best friend! im sure we would all love to hear!

 

[slowpoking]

Maybe for the same reason you dont like to go downtown on another guy! What would THAT reason be. Most women are not attracted sexually to the same sex, plain and simple! Now please tell us all, why YOU dont like going downtown on YOUR best friend! im sure we would all love to hear!

Sure, your feelings might be the same as mine, but you don't know what mine are, so maybe not. I think there's a wide range of how guys feel about that, like I assume that there are for women.

Since you asked, I've never touched a guy sexually and have never felt any sexual attraction toward one. On top of that the social stigma would probably keep me from ever crossing that line. But the organ itself I don't find unappealing, and I have some curiosity about what it would be like. So if somehow had an opportunity where conditions were right, if it weren't for the social stigma, I can imagine giving it a try -- and even liking it.

Whether to involve friends adds another dimension, right? I mean some people can't consider sex without a personal connection, and others like anonymity, at least in some cases. I could enjoy anonymous sex with a woman but would prefer a personal connection. I'm not looking to suck a cock, but if I was it would definitely not belong to a friend, and that has little to do with my feelings about the act itself.

I take it that to you the idea of going down on a woman is just unappealing? Maybe repulsive?

 

[Jada59]

Social stigma? What social stigma? Who is going to know what goes on behind closed doors?

 

[slowpoking]

Social stigma? What social stigma? Who is going to know what goes on behind closed doors?

You're right, of course, but I'm just being honest. I think it says something about how strong that societal pressure can be. Maybe it shouldn't affect what you do in private, but I'm sure I'm not the only person who feels that way.

 

[Jada59]

You're right, of course, but I'm just being honest. I think it says something about how strong that societal pressure can be. Maybe it shouldn't affect what you do in private, but I'm sure I'm not the only person who feels that way.

Hmmm... I live near Seattle. Pretty much anything goes here.

 

[CandK_inSE]

Wife posting here.

Speaking for myself, I am not sexually attracted to other females, no matter how attractive they may be. Has nothing to do with any kind of "social stigma". I really don't care, and most people probably don't really care what others do. Just not attracted to other girls sexually. And, my husband's biggest fantasy is to see me with another girl. Just not going to happen.

As others have responded, why don't you want to go suck another guy's cock? That's basically the question you asked.

Also, I can interpret the question as ladies, why don't you want to fuck any guy that shows you a little interest? We women have the ability to decide sexual attraction too. We don't do things because you just want us to.

 

[Mtnmike]

Wife posting here.

Speaking for myself, I am not sexually attracted to other females, no matter how attractive they may be. Has nothing to do with any kind of "social stigma". I really don't care, and most people probably don't really care what others do. Just not attracted to other girls sexually. And, my husband's biggest fantasy is to see me with another girl. Just not going to happen.

As others have responded, why don't you want to go suck another guy's cock? That's basically the question you asked.

Also, I can interpret the question as ladies, why don't you want to fuck any guy that shows you a little interest? We women have the ability to decide sexual attraction too. We don't do things because you just want us to.

Very Well Said...

 

[DotarSojat]

I’ve never looked at another guy and thought “I’d like to bang him”, however I enjoy sucking dick. I’m not attracted to men, but it’s fun to do in the moment. I know women who are the same about other women. It’s just different strokes for different folks. For me, sex is a sport, something to do. What attracts me is someone wit, if you make me laugh or think, then I want to spend time with you. Could be playing dominos, fishing or whatever, if it leads to sex yay, if it don’t also yay.

 

[FL30]

stupid question!!

Everyone has different likes and dislikes, sexually, just like any other like or dislike.

Why do some people like vanilla ice cream while others don't?

Why do some people like the color red, while others don't?

You could ask this same type of question about ANY SUBJECT!!

PERSONAL choices and because EVERYONE is DIFFERENT!!

and what is this about "downtown"? Just be an adult and ask about eating pussy, after all, we're all adults here. "downtown" seems so childish

 

[tightmedicine]

Wife posting here.

Speaking for myself, I am not sexually attracted to other females, no matter how attractive they may be. Has nothing to do with any kind of "social stigma". I really don't care, and most people probably don't really care what others do. Just not attracted to other girls sexually. And, my husband's biggest fantasy is to see me with another girl. Just not going to happen.

As others have responded, why don't you want to go suck another guy's cock? That's basically the question you asked.

Also, I can interpret the question as ladies, why don't you want to fuck any guy that shows you a little interest? We women have the ability to decide sexual attraction too. We don't do things because you just want us to.

Perfectly said.
This question sort of irks me. No, contrary to whatever silly story or locker-room rumor gets chucked about, all women are not bisexual in any degree.

Sexuality comes in a lot of different packages and we all like what we like.

 

[slowpoking]

stupid question!!

Everyone has different likes and dislikes, sexually, just like any other like or dislike.

Why do some people like vanilla ice cream while others don't?

Why do some people like the color red, while others don't?

You could ask this same type of question about ANY SUBJECT!!

PERSONAL choices and because EVERYONE is DIFFERENT!!

and what is this about "downtown"? Just be an adult and ask about eating pussy, after all, we're all adults here. "downtown" seems so childish

I agree with most of what you said, but I can't tell exactly why you think it's a stupid question. I mean, if this were a food forum we might dissect our feelings about vanilla. Maybe we'd find out that we like the same thing about it, or maybe you like something about it that I haven't noticed. Colors, too. Do they evoke the same emotions in different people? Or are there reasons other than emotions that some people like or don't like them?

This is a forum for sex topics, right? I see a lot on here that doesn't interest me and I just pass them by without judging. But like you say, everyone is different.

Cheers

 

[slowpoking]

Perfectly said.
This question sort of irks me. No, contrary to whatever silly story or locker-room rumor gets chucked about, all women are not bisexual in any degree.

Sexuality comes in a lot of different packages and we all like what we like.

Sorry about irking you, but I'm a little puzzled that it did. A couple people asked about me sucking cock, like it was a fair insult to come back with. I agree that it's an equivalent question, but I don't mind considering how I feel about it. I wouldn't mind doing the same with things that I'm averse to.

I think it was obvious that I don't think all women are bisexual, and I tried to make it clear that I don't think bisexual is better. I think you're reading something into it. Then again, maybe that's the definition of an oaf.

 

[HoldYouDown]

Hope this doesn't sound immature -- actually, I won't be broken up if it does -- but I have an honest question for women who won't or don't like going down on other women: Why not?

I don't mean to imply any value judgement. It makes sense to me that some women would like it and that some would not, and it goes without saying that either one is fine. I'm just curious about specific reasons for those in the latter camp. I can imagine some possible reasons ... that some simply find it unappealing or feel some social stigma. Maybe it's not too different from guys who wouldn't suck cock.

I know my wife just finds it unappealing. There was a time when she enjoyed playing with women; she was fascinated with breasts and enjoyed being eaten. But she always said she just couldn't bring herself to lick a woman.

Anyway, I'd appreciate any thoughts.

I don't think everyone read this thoroughly. There are no stupid questions, OP. But you probably should have framed this by asking women with bi tendencies or history, rather than all women. Esp. since you explained that your wife was attracted to women but not "downtown." Or you could ask straight men, for that matter.

That said, it's hard for anyone to articulate a personal preference without sounding negative or opening themselves up for trolling. If someone says it's unappealing, what more data do you need? Taste? Texture? Those are all subjective anyway. Maybe neck pain, lol.

 

[Buscando]

Avoiding the question?

You're right, of course, but I'm just being honest. I think it says something about how strong that societal pressure can be. Maybe it shouldn't affect what you do in private, but I'm sure I'm not the only person who feels that way.

Well, no, it wouldn't appear that you are being entirely honest here, in that you've not answered the question as it was asked.

As the previous poster asked, where would any "social pressure" come from when you're discreetly doing something (or someone) behind closed doors?

That's the moment when, knowing there is no "social pressure," you make the personal choice to push your personal envelope into new areas of sexuality and pleasure ... or not; The moment when you can no longer make those standard excuses for not doing so work.

At that point, it's all about you. You may just not be all that curious, really, or you might be very strongly attracted to seeking new pleasures - but just don't have the strength to step up and try it. Either way, since it's neither a public act or decision, social pressure just doesn't figure in.

 

[slowpoking]

Well, no, it wouldn't appear that you are being entirely honest here, in that you've not answered the question as it was asked.

As the previous poster asked, where would any "social pressure" come from when you're discreetly doing something (or someone) behind closed doors?

That's the moment when, knowing there is no "social pressure," you make the personal choice to push your personal envelope into new areas of sexuality and pleasure ... or not; The moment when you can no longer make those standard excuses for not doing so work.

At that point, it's all about you. You may just not be all that curious, really, or you might be very strongly attracted to seeking new pleasures - but just don't have the strength to step up and try it. Either way, since it's neither a public act or decision, social pressure just doesn't figure in.

Social scientists will tell you that societal pressures can and do affect how people behave in private.

 

[Buscando]

Inside/Outside

Social scientists will tell you that societal pressures can and do affect how people behave in private.

I agree with you there. These influences can and do affect private behavior.

However, whether and to what degree they affect you personally when making very private decisions is ultimately up to you as a thinking human being. You have free will and the ability to choose as you will in a private environment.

As a fellow human being, I'm pretty sure that you, like all the rest of us, have made choices in your life that run counter to the currently accepted norms of our society. Just our presence on this site would confirm that, would it not? Most of us here do not post up our full names and locations, and there's a reason for that. While, as we see in so many threads and posts, we do and say things that are far outside the limits society has attempted to impose upon us, we have at some point made the choice to ignore those pressures and limitations.

All I'm saying here is that you are quite free to do the same thing - provided you make the personal choice. You are not being held back by anyone else.

Cheers

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself – Nietzsche

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

Okay I'm a guy but let me see now, ONLY two out of nine - oh gewd ten (I've stopped counting here) women that I have been physically involved with were absolutely dead straight. And I've known a couple of paired lesbians and even there fifty per cent WERE bisexual to some extent.

For whatever reason I tend to get on with women who on the surface look 'normal' - in fact some are professional athletes and some are successful performing artists and several are University professors(!) - but who are rather 'out there' when it comes to human sexual relating. I don't think you would say though, these are your 'typical' model types (which I think is a pretty awful look, frankly) - they're all shapes and sizes.

I know, just as friends and acquaintances, gay guys and even fully transgendered people (m - f).

I have definitely had sex where there were other people in the same space also engaging with each other.

Gay sex, bisexual 'sex' are all mindsets of a very particular kind - not so much as heterosexual 'sex' is a mindset as such... It - that is, the 'normative' heterosexual outlook - comes from unchallenged natural-from-birth assumptions and is therefore a very 'unconscious' way of thinking about sex.

It can take a LONG TIME for someone, even when they are prepared to be challenged inside their minds about it, to gain adequate tools in order to establish a 'mindset' that can accept a range of sex act/sex style possibilities. But as soon as they break through then things change quite a bit - but even so, this tends to mean they DO NOT just think of ANY and/or ALL people as potential sex partners; far from it. It means that all the more are they going to seek ONLY certain kinds of other people they can cope with. You end up with LESS sex partnership potential, not MORE.

Who wants to go out for sushi with someone who REALLY wants to stay in and order pizza delivery?

Who wants to FORCE someone to eat raw oysters who just plain doesn't like them?

I don't believe in all the propaganda we see around the place now regarding lesbian sex and especially bi-sexuality - there are plenty of people who want to jump onto any bandwagon just to get laid, or so they think. The truth? It's all about the individual person in front of you. I don't know enough about gay male sex to have a complete opinion about it - in terms of actual 'gay perspective' sex; on account I am not gay. So would I? In an absolute theoretical sense, even if not gay. That's the question people ask whenever a male comments on girl-girl sex. And if yes, why (would I).

Well, here's one view that a woman raised one time - she said that she had known this Libra guy once, really flirty, good-looking, but with a lot of feminine energy about him. I'm not completely sure I know what that even means but it still is interesting.

One woman I knew, almost ALWAYS wore pants, trousers, suits - all kinds of male clothing. She was completely lesbian but ended up having a relationship with me!! Do I have mixed energy? Dunno. LOL

Would I have sex with Dale Brisby...? A good question! Probably not, but there's a guy, totally 'male' in terms of the marketing spin but hey he DOES have some 'feminine energy.' I think. Yet he IS a defined heterosexual male. It's all about individuals and also about context. And STILL that doesn't mean I would in almost all cases I would guess.

I've been in a small room with aerial silks (hammocks) hanging from the ceiling and with 'unusual' music playing and a strange audio program and some other things (I can't say) - no drugs - where after a while no one knew who they were and it was like everyone was THE SAME PERSON. Went on for hours and hours. That was a bit strange. Very much like having sex with everyone else there.

Women going down on other women comes from a 'mindset' of available tools that most women never need to challenge themselves about, same as for most heterosexual males; sometimes the mindset is more or less 'naturally' developed from out of the inward lesbian sexual need, but if the person started out as heterosexual, then it came from some necessity, or some originally forced context (not necessarily rape or non-consented), or even some gradual seduction by an experienced woman which ENDED UP giving the person the mindset tools.

But here's something I put to you all and about which there will be screams and disputes - most women today will tell you, if you happen to ask them which perfumes they like, ALWAYS it ends up with things that remind them of food they don't allow themselves to eat because they say they are on a diet: vanilla, pumpkin pie, waffles, ice cream, sugary stuff, candy floss...

They don't know what the fuck they are talking about. 1. Because they've never smelt real civet because it's banned by IFRA, 2. because they've never smelt real ambergris augmented by absinthe because it's banned by IFRA, and in any case almost no one knows how to use it properly 3. because they've never smelt Siberian deer musk or Russian Leather because they're all banned by IFRA (the real authentic ingredients), nor nitro musk for the same reason, and they don't eat almas or raw oysters or picanha flame-charred steak, or Romanov cream and strawberries, or vodak and burnt demerara on salmon, or turmeric and garlic oven roasted mackerel with all the yellow oil from the fish dripping down the sides of their mouths as they eat the white and dark brown flesh.

And almost none of them will wear a real sable fur with nothing on underneath except their own copulins-soaked pussy hair, because they all insist on shaving everywhere until they die of bacterial infections.

 

[slowpoking]

Desire, halfway through I could no longer tell where you were headed, and then toward the end I couldn't even understand what you were saying.

But the part at the top I found interesting -- that part about the heterosexual mindset being an unconscious way of thinking about sex. I think that could explain a few of the responses above. I'm not talking about saying they don't want to perform oral sex on someone of the same gender but the fact that they called it a stupid question and didn't give a reason as to why they wouldn't. Could their feelings stem from an unconscious mindset that considered (or let itself consider) what it might be like to perform that act?

I try not to presume I know what's in someone's head, but that seems like it fits.

I expect to get roasted again, so let state that I don't believe all heterosexuality comes from such a mindset. And I don't think there's anything wrong with such a mindset or that it's better to be open to other sexual choices.

 

[FGB]

Then there is the Patron factor or in plain English Alcohol and other drugs sometimes have the effect that people do things they would not ordinarily do.
From clothes falling off, table striptease even sexing up strangers and even fucking people they don't know.

I, thankfully seem to be immune to this factor... but many females mostly, that I know are, and most Guys have not been.