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icanhelp1 said:
Can anyone authenticate what national security violation took place with Trump's conversation with Ukraine leadership? I didn't see it!
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It's a Kavanaugh standard.....a claim was made therefore it's fact.

No specifics of any kind, but evidence doesn't matter, classy educated people just KNOW it happened.

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icanhelp1 said:
Dems laying the foundation for a UK parliamentary style government.
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They fucking hate the USA so much they can't stand it.

That's why they want to change everything about it that makes it the USA to the exact opposite, erase/ignore the borders and do away with citizenship.
 
Lorilei said:
Linda Tripp wasn't a first hand witness either.
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And what rises to the level of high crime, the President lying about sex with an intern or the President using his office to try to extract personal political favors that would benefit his re-election from a foreign government?
 
icanhelp1 said:
Can anyone authenticate what national security violation took place with Trump's conversation with Ukraine leadership? I didn't see it!
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YOU don't need to. YOU are not part of those who make those decisions.
 
coati said:
And what rises to the level of high crime, the President lying about sex with an intern or the President using his office to try to extract personal political favors that would benefit his re-election from a foreign government?
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Please specify what personal political favors was he after. What favors would benefit him. Investigating corruption is for the benefit the Ukraine not Trump. How does Hunter's corruption help Trump. Is there another document out there that I missed?
 
coati said:
And what rises to the level of high crime, the President lying about sex with an intern or the President using his office to try to extract personal political favors that would benefit his re-election from a foreign government?
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If you must know, lying, while under oath, to congress is a crime. Having a conversation with a foreign leader is not. Now do you understand?
 
icanhelp1 said:
Please specify what personal political favors was he after. What favors would benefit him. Investigating corruption is for the benefit the Ukraine not Trump. How does Hunter's corruption help Trump. Is there another document out there that I missed?
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Those personal political favors are obvious to everyone except Trump's cult followers. Can't waste breath on a cult follower. Just watch what happens and deal with your denial syndrome the best you can.
 
coati said:
Those personal political favors are obvious to everyone except Trump's cult followers. Can't waste breath on a cult follower. Just watch what happens and deal with your denial syndrome the best you can.
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Oh look....you can't name a SINGLE ONE.

Imagine that!! So shocking :D
 
jomar said:
Please tell me what evidence you have of a seditious conspiracy. You know, if you're any good at all as an attorney you should be able to argue both sides, so see what you can come up with.
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1. It's not my job to argue your case for you.
2. See: 18 USC 2384
3. Now, go look back through the thread and see where you went wrong. (Hint: it's right where someone said that the complaint was written by a group of people.)
 
Wrong Element said:
If you're claiming there's no quid pro quo in the call memorandum, you may be the only lawyer on Earth who doesn't recognize it as such. It's literally the first scene of The Godfather.
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Please QUOTE THE EXACT WORDS in the transcript showing where Trump requested anything from Ukraine other than assistance for an ongoing investigation.
 
RobDownSouth said:
Becoz impeachment doesn't rely upon criminal conviction or any statutory authority other than "High crimes and misdemeanors".

"The charge of high crimes and misdemeanors covers allegations of misconduct by officials, such as dishonesty, negligence, perjury of oath, abuse of authority, bribery, intimidation, misuse of public funds or assets, failure to supervise, dereliction of duty, unbecoming conduct, refusal to obey a lawful order, chronic intoxication, including such offenses as tax evasion. Offenses by officials also include ordinary crimes, but perhaps with different standards of proof and punishment than for nonofficials, on the grounds that more is expected of officials by their oaths of office. The word "High" refers to the office and not the offense. Indeed the offense may not even be a breach of criminal statute. Harvard Law Review: "The majority view is that a president can legally be impeached for “intentional, evil deeds” that “drastically subvert the Constitution and involve an unforgivable abuse of the presidency” — even if those deeds didn’t violate any criminal laws." LINK

So go move those goalpists somewhere else, chum Lee.
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Did you not read this part? It requires 2 things simultaneously.

Thus, tell us, what part of the transcript subverts the Constitution. Quote the EXACT words please.

AND THEN, please tell us what part of the transcript involves "and unforgivable abuse of the presidency". Again, quote the EXACT words please.
 
HisArpy said:
Please QUOTE THE EXACT WORDS in the transcript showing where Trump requested anything from Ukraine other than assistance for an ongoing investigation.
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Andrew McCarthy: Obama Admin Asked Ukraine to Investigate Trump Campaign Manager Paul Manafort
nationalreview.com/2019/09/double…

But thats different, because? SHUT UP!
 
coati said:
Those personal political favors are obvious to everyone except Trump's cult followers. Can't waste breath on a cult follower. Just watch what happens and deal with your denial syndrome the best you can.
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No! It's because personal political favors don't exist. I'm watching! Not a cult follower, much the opposite, I'm for the rule of law, not TDS mob rule.
 
HisArpy said:
Please QUOTE THE EXACT WORDS in the transcript showing where Trump requested anything from Ukraine other than assistance for an ongoing investigation.
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Oh look!
Rape-enabler Timmeh invokes Talking Point #4 from yesterday's Republican Talking Points! "Make them QUOTE THE EXACT WORDS!"

Timmeh is a good Republican soldier.
 
RobDownSouth said:
Oh look!
Rape-enabler Timmeh invokes Talking Point #4 from yesterday's Republican Talking Points! "Make them QUOTE THE EXACT WORDS!"

Timmeh is a good Republican soldier.
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Asking you to substantiate the claims isn't a talking point or sealioning or any other bullshit deflection.

The fact that you can't do it however is noted.

It's ok RacistOldWhiteGuy....we Know why :D
 
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The real reason why Harpy, ProudBoy, and the other Deplorables are worked up into such a frenzy, demanding exact words and proof of a crime, has to do with their growing recognition that the Democrats in Congress may do exactly what the Deplorable's cult leader does, which is to exercise raw power.

Harpy, grow up or get back to your ambulance chasing. This is politics, not an episode of Perry Mason. ProudBoy, I heard there might be an opening at your local middle school debating team.

All this hand-waving has to do with the fact that Pelosi might get enough votes to impeach.

Quit tugging on our pantlegs and demanding attention for your emotional stress. Fer crissake, you all are starting sound as needy for attention as BusyBody. Accept the politics in the House and start bragging about how the "Senate will never convict" and "this guarantees Trump's re-election" and all of your other talking points.
 
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