18 year rule

sdsioux

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If I describe a person growing up and don't mention sex but talk about breast growth and fondling is it okay?
 
how about the breast growth?

As long as it's not used to sexualize the underage character, I'd assume you can get away with a brief mention of something like that she was earlier/later than other girls or something like that.

Laurel has the final say in these things though, we can only try to estimate where the line lies based on past experiences. If you want to prevent the story getting rejected or having to rewrite a big chunk of it, better to just shoot Laurel a PM and ask what she would and wouldn't allow.
 
The general rule with underage characters
would be if you wonder if it is okay. It probably isn't
 
will do
Tom
As you're talking about breast growth one can take it that your character is on the cusp of puberty, a young teen. Provided that your description is a short one-liner, "She was young, her breasts just beginning," and the nearest sexual content is many hundreds of words away (I usually say a thousand words of separation) you might be okay. It sounds like you're on the borderline, though, so be wary. Usually, writers need to age up from sixteen to eighteen. Aging up from thirteen to eighteen will never fly, so don't even try.

I've written a premenarchal girl - the nearest sexual content was in the next chapter, and it was made explicit she was then nineteen (for five years she...). I included a note to the Editor, and it was okayed without a problem.
 
Even if the story was a non-erotic, coming of age tale, the fact that you're posting it on a website dedicated to erotic stories, would look bad.
 
I think the hard question you have to ask of yourself is, What is the purpose of mentioning it? Just about anything can be sexual, depending upon how you describe it. If you describe breast growth in a way that's titillating, or that will tend to have the effect of titillating readers, then it's probably prohibited by Site rules. But a passing reference to breast growth should be OK.
 
Tricky question. If it's just a passing illusion:

"At fifteen, her mother bought her her first bra, although she didn't really have a need for it,"

it would probably fly.

If it was something she was getting no sexual pleasure from:

"At fifteen, she found herself mortified whenever she saw a man staring at her chest instead of her face."

that might fly, too, but if it's construed as a sexual act from the man's point of view rather than the girls, you're in trouble.

The only thing I'd recommend is that you submit the story. If it bounces, I would re-submit it with an "author's note" that in my opinion, the intent was not to titillate but to honestly describe a girl's experience with puberty. If it still bounces, I'd re-write the story.
 
...I would re-submit it with an "author's note" that in my opinion, the intent was not to titillate but to honestly describe a girl's experience with puberty.
Laurel has made it clear she doesn't want descriptions of underage sexuality, in thought or deed. Any entity appearing to be an underage human is banned. "She first fought puberty, then surrendered" would fly. Anything more descriptive, like bra sizes or wet dreams, won't pass.
 
"At fifteen, she found herself mortified whenever she saw a man staring at her chest instead of her face."

that might fly, too, but if it's construed as a sexual act from the man's point of view rather than the girls, you're in trouble.

It definitely won't. No one should show any interest in an underage character at all either. Even just staring at her chest means they are having some form of attraction or sexual thoughts about the character, which isn't allowed.
 
It definitely won't. No one should show any interest in an underage character at all either. Even just staring at her chest means they are having some form of attraction or sexual thoughts about the character, which isn't allowed.

Your are correct in that from the standpoint of the starer, it might be a sexual act (or at least, thought). That's why I pointed that out in my example.

It definitely wouldn't fly if the writer had added, "It felt that, in the mind of the creep, she was being undressed, her breast exposed for all to see." I certainly wouldn't have gone there.
 
My rule of thumb for writing about under-age sex and sexuality: is it likely that a creepy reader could find your content sexually arousing?

If yes, then it probably isn't going to fly here. OTOH, if you're just mentioning that under-18s exist and that some people have sex before 18, without getting into titillating detail, that usually seems to be okay here.
 
advice

All of your advice is greatly appreciated. Unlike Laurel who never got back to me I've decided to forget the project for here. When I get done(if) there might be an e-book in this. While there is no sex involved it is important to include a description from 12-18. Too bad but I understand.
Tom
 
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