Slavery reparations proposals could cost US more than $17 trillion

[HisArpy]

The forty acres and a mule was a proposal, and never got further than that. And it had nothing to do with the Emancipation Proclamation. However, I agree we should follow through on it now. All those people who were slaves during and before the Civil War should be given the land and the mule. Those people who were born after the war ended, having never known the rigors of slavery, would not be entitled to any reparations. Let's be fair.

Actually, it was a General Field Order by Sherman to resettle black refugees along the coastline of the Carolinas (and a couple of other places) on plantations which were formerly owned by whites. The refugees were settled on 40 acre plots and some received "borrowed" mules from the army to help them farm the land they'd been given.

Eventually, the program was reversed and the land returned to it's former white owners. The question now becomes; was that sufficient at the time to constitute full reparations? The answer is yes since the idea of reparations at the time emphasized compensation for WAGE LOSS rather than land ownership and the time that the former slaves possessed the land was deemed sufficient (by some) to compensate them for their losses.

Modern society owes no further debt to descendants of former slaves. The face that slavery existed in the past should be recognized, but there is no "debt" owed to anyone for it by today's government or peoples. A current disagreement on the "value" of the compensation is irrelevant to the fact it occurred.

After probate, one may bitch about the size and share of one's inheritance, but one cannot bitch that one did not receive an inheritance however small it may be. Today's talk about reparations is nothing more than bitching about how little the former slaves received when the issue is that they DID receive something.

 

[Rightguide]

Actually, it was a General Field Order by Sherman to resettle black refugees along the coastline of the Carolinas (and a couple of other places) on plantations which were formerly owned by whites. The refugees were settled on 40 acre plots and some received "borrowed" mules from the army to help them farm the land they'd been given.

Eventually, the program was reversed and the land returned to it's former white owners. The question now becomes; was that sufficient at the time to constitute full reparations? The answer is yes since the idea of reparations at the time emphasized compensation for WAGE LOSS rather than land ownership and the time that the former slaves possessed the land was deemed sufficient (by some) to compensate them for their losses.

Modern society owes no further debt to descendants of former slaves. The face that slavery existed in the past should be recognized, but there is no "debt" owed to anyone for it by today's government or peoples. A current disagreement on the "value" of the compensation is irrelevant to the fact it occurred.

After probate, one may bitch about the size and share of one's inheritance, but one cannot bitch that one did not receive an inheritance however small it may be. Today's talk about reparations is nothing more than bitching about how little the former slaves received when the issue is that they DID receive something.

I don't see any justification for slavery reparations whatsoever. No one born since the turn of the 20th Century owned any slaves and nor has anyone since been forced into picking cotton or any other kind of slavery. It's time to stay in school, get a job, and shut the fuck up.

 

[DeluxAuto]

I don't see any justification for slavery reparations whatsoever. No one born since the turn of the 20th Century owned any slaves and nor has anyone since been forced into picking cotton or any other kind of slavery. It's time to stay in school, get a job, and shut the fuck up.

The problem now is institutional racism in schools and the workplace.

 

[HisArpy]

The problem now is institutional racism in schools and the workplace.

Racism is a human condition. "Institutions" as such, are not "human" and thus cannot be guilty of racism.

 

[HisArpy]

I don't see any justification for slavery reparations whatsoever. No one born since the turn of the 20th Century owned any slaves and nor has anyone since been forced into picking cotton or any other kind of slavery. It's time to stay in school, get a job, and shut the fuck up.

I never saw the point either except as an exercise by politicians trying to get votes by giving handouts of MY money to people who don't do anything to deserve it.

 

[Boxlicker101]

The problem now is institutional racism in schools and the workplace.

Can you cite an actual recent example of institutional racism in schools or the workplace that isn't anti-white?

 

[jp55665566]

Can you cite an actual recent example of institutional racism in schools or the workplace that isn't anti-white?

IMO, institutional racism is built-in to our western education, and deeply ingrained in our medical perspectives. Most cultures have a bias in favor of themselves.

 

[Boxlicker101]

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Originally Posted by Boxlicker101 View Post
Can you cite an actual recent example of institutional racism in schools or the workplace that isn't anti-white?

IMO, institutional racism is built-in to our western education, and deeply ingrained in our medical perspectives. Most cultures have a bias in favor of themselves.

I didn't think you could. Bur here is an example of anti-white bias:
https://nypost.com/2017/05/31/college-melts-down-over-plan-for-white-people-free-day-on-campus/

I could probably find many similar examples.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Can you cite an actual recent example of institutional racism in schools or the workplace that isn't anti-white?

Not even BET is anti-white. What's your point?

 

[Boxlicker101]

Not even BET is anti-white. What's your point?

My point is that you made an inflammatory statement and I challenged you to back it up. Can you?

 

[DeluxAuto]

My point is that you made an inflammatory statement and I challenged you to back it up. Can you?

No you didn't. You asked a completely irrelevant question.

 

[Boxlicker101]

No you didn't. You asked a completely irrelevant question.

Here is Post 153 and my response:

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Originally Posted by DeluxAuto View Post
The problem now is institutional racism in schools and the workplace.

My response:
Can you cite an actual recent example of institutional racism in schools or the workplace that isn't anti-white?

That looks relevant to me.