Trump is finally...

[bbx56]

There is nowhere in the world beyond reach of B2's.

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1501195

 

[icanhelp1]

Allies? China’s is only concerned about China, hasn’t fought a full on war in decades and has a no first strike policy on launching nukes. Considering better than 70% of their population is on their Eastern coast bunched up in cities, nuclear war doesn’t favor them.

Russia, on the other hand, has the number of nukes to go toe to toe with America. Mutually assured destruction keeps them in check. Without nukes, it’s game over for Russia.

If it came down to America fighting Russia and China alone without nukes, the US Army and Air Force alone could handle Russia’s ground forces as their Navy isn’t a threat like China. The US Navy and Marines would blockade China. Depending on how long it would to subdue Russia would determine assistance from the Air Force.

I’m going to wager America could take both Russia and China on at the same time without nukes and win, but it wouldn’t be a quick war.

That is a fools errand. For The U.S.to defeat Russia and China in a conventional war is with full participation of its allies, NATO, India and Japan. A conventional land war in China is unwinnable by the U.S. alone. That would be suicidal. Nuclear intervention is the only way and that is MADNESS. Any large nuclear exchange would end our existence as we know it.

 

[HisArpy]

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1501195

I saw that. Unlike rorbags & crew, I don't have anyone on iggy so I actually can read all the exciting threads and be totally up on what's happening almost in real time.

 

[icanhelp1]

The Germans knew they had lost the battles and the war.
Hitler was an economic reaction to the penalties imposed by the winners.
Why do you pay any attention to Robert's rantings?

Agree, Hitler was brought on by the treaty of Versailles.

 

[HisArpy]

That is a fools errand. For The U.S.to defeat Russia and China in a conventional war is with full participation of its allies, NATO, India and Japan. A conventional land war in China is unwinnable by the U.S. alone. That would be suicidal. Nuclear intervention is the only way and that is MADNESS. Any large nuclear exchange would end our existence as we know it.

So you say.

What I hear is a lot of hand wringing about how the US Military isn't capable of winning a war while our enemies are more than capable of stomping our asses without half trying.

Why is that?

 

[Que]

So you say.

What I hear is a lot of hand wringing about how the US Military isn't capable of winning a war while our enemies are more than capable of stomping our asses without half trying.

Why is that?

The US can't "win" anything. We have no political will, we cannot get behind any CIC, and we cannot abide casualties, either our troops or their civilians.

We can shoot back better than anyone in history.

 

[icanhelp1]

Once again, for the thousandth time another ball licker completely skips over the fact that the investigation wasn't about collusion. There wasn't a single instance of the word collusion in the Rosenstein letter.

And the republicans have wanted to go into Iran for a long time..and they have someone just as reckless that could just do that.

Can you refresh my memory, What was the investigation about then? Then what was Adam Schiff spouting about for 2 years.

We don't have an axe to grind with the Iranian people.

 

[heathergives]

...going to start WWIII.

Hmmm...who hasn't he pissed off?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-oil-tankers-attacked-before-entering-persian-gulf-11557725971

It's called power projection.


Henry Kissinger you ain't.

 

[BotanyBoy]

So you say.

What I hear is a lot of hand wringing about how the US Military isn't capable of winning a war while our enemies are more than capable of stomping our asses without half trying.

Why is that?

Because the good comrades know...KNOW their friends in China are better than the USA.

Hell most of them are terrified of N. Korea who is WAY more powerful and advanced both economically and militarily than the terrible USA which is the worst EVER.

*que soviet anthem*

http://theprisma.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/marxismo-lenin-marx-mao-e1450491898846.jpg

 

[RobDownSouth]

There is no point in US history where America has backdown from a fight against nor surrendered without a fight.

https://www.itourvn.com/images/easyblog_articles/383/b2ap3_large_last-helicopter-of-saigon.jpg

 

[HisArpy]

The US can't "win" anything. We have no political will, we cannot get behind any CIC, and we cannot abide casualties, either our troops or their civilians.

We can shoot back better than anyone in history.

Those are political considerations, military objectives are different things completely. We rolled over Iraq in ~60 days and everyone supporting Sadaam, for all their chest beating and sabre rattling, died or ran away.

What was left was a military victory which the politicians turned into a hot mess that's still not been fully resolved. That's not the fault of the Mil.

Afghanistan is the same. What's notable is that the US did both at the same time.

If Iran wants to play, the US Military is more than capable of kicking their asses, Russia and/or China notwithstanding. Anyone who thinks otherwise is crazy. Unfortunately, those people are often found occupying an elected office in DC or talking out their asses on the MSM.

 

[HisArpy]

https://www.itourvn.com/images/easyblog_articles/383/b2ap3_large_last-helicopter-of-saigon.jpg

Poor Rubbery, failing at reading comprehension again.

 

[nowisthetime]

Lol, some repug twit sent me a hate message talking about Go Trump and trashing "dummycrats" as money stealers. She is from Florida, so probably Jenininfl reincarnated.

His worshippers are so stupid. Would they start WWIII if he loses?

 

[Rightguide]

Those are political considerations, military objectives are different things completely. We rolled over Iraq in ~60 days and everyone supporting Sadaam, for all their chest beating and sabre rattling, died or ran away.

What was left was a military victory which the politicians turned into a hot mess that's still not been fully resolved. That's not the fault of the Mil.

Afghanistan is the same. What's notable is that the US did both at the same time.

If Iran wants to play, the US Military is more than capable of kicking their asses, Russia and/or China notwithstanding. Anyone who thinks otherwise is crazy. Unfortunately, those people are often found occupying an elected office in DC or talking out their asses on the MSM.

Obama was successful in removing proven combat leaders and replacing them with bureaucrats in uniform in the upper echelons of the American officer corps and in leadership positions in the nation's war colleges. He made sure as well the JAG Corps was fully manned with a requisite number of strategy fucking anti-war, anti-military, lawyers in uniform to gum up the national command authority as well. General Jack Keane and others have written and spoken about this problem in the past.

 

[icanhelp1]

So you say.

What I hear is a lot of hand wringing about how the US Military isn't capable of winning a war while our enemies are more than capable of stomping our asses without half trying.

Why is that?

I don't know what you hear. What I'm saying is that the U.S. is more than capable of defending itself against any adversary at home. To project power in the conventional sense against China or Russia is unwinnable by ourselves. The logistics of such a deployment just doesn't exist. China's military is a first rate power both quantity and technologically. They stole all our secrets and are now using them against us in all arenas; conventional [ to include a blue water navy ], cyber, space and nuclear, although, they could be annihilated with a nuclear exchange, what good does that do. The Russian have more nuclear capability than we have and would use it if they sensed they were losing. The Chinese have a no first strike use doctrine.

 

[Rightguide]

I don't know what you hear. What I'm saying is that the U.S. is more than capable of defending itself against any adversary at home. To project power in the conventional sense against China or Russia is unwinnable by ourselves. The logistics of such a deployment just doesn't exist. China's military is a first rate power both quantity and technologically. They stole all our secrets and are now using them against us in all arenas; conventional [ to include a blue water navy ], cyber, space and nuclear, although, they could be annihilated with a nuclear exchange, what good does that do. The Russian have more nuclear capability than we have and would use it if they sensed they were losing. The Chinese have a no first strike use doctrine.

My advice, in your strategic planning, never ascribe to the Chinese Communists any kind of humanity whatsoever, expect them to do the absolutely unspeakable and be waiting when they go there, you might actually survive and win a conflict with the Chinese.

 

[zipman]

You people are missing the forest for the trees while you're arguing about stupid hypothetical wars with Russia and China.

The issue is that the White House is reviewing a plan that has us going to war again in the middle east and sending a shit load of troops there.

As if we didn't learn a fucking thing from the last middle east war which was a huge mistake by any measure.

Morons

 

[Kantarii]

So you say.

What I hear is a lot of hand wringing about how the US Military isn't capable of winning a war while our enemies are more than capable of stomping our asses without half trying.

Why is that?

Our enemies are lining up to stomp their own shit let alone America’s. The mice know not to play with America in a sandbox or on any battlefield

 

[Kantarii]

Poor Rubbery, failing at reading comprehension again.

I don’t even bother to open any of his links.

 

[Kantarii]

You people are missing the forest for the trees while you're arguing about stupid hypothetical wars with Russia and China.

The issue is that the White House is reviewing a plan that has us going to war again in the middle east and sending a shit load of troops there.

As if we didn't learn a fucking thing from the last middle east war which was a huge mistake by any measure.

Morons

Really? Let’s ask Saddam and Osama bin Laden. Wait, we can’t.

 

[bbx56]

I don’t even bother to open any of his links.

There is a reason why I call Robby

POOP

POOP stands for

Poster

Of

Old

Polls



In 2004, when he was semi normal, he posted a poll that showed Kerry getting x% of the vote.....I actually opened his LINK.....the POLL was MONTHS old....hence

POOP


On another occasion he said that an Iraqi PM was a US stooge and linked to a WAPO story....I read the story, in the OPENING FEW WORDS, his own link said the PM was NOT A US puppet

I told him he owed all of us an apology

I am still waiting

I have zero respect for him

He not only is POOP

He is a NIGGER POOP and I have IT on IGGY

 

[zipman]

Really? Let’s ask Saddam and Osama bin Laden. Wait, we can’t.

And you think that was worth the trillions of dollars we spent and the lives lost?

You fucking moron.

 

[icanhelp1]

My advice, in your strategic planning, never ascribe to the Chinese Communists any kind of humanity whatsoever, expect them to do the absolutely unspeakable and be waiting when they go there, you might actually survive and win a conflict with the Chinese.

Our intelligence has a pretty good handle on Chinese nuclear deployment, nothing mounted for a first strike. The Russians are just the opposite. The Chinese are a communist regime no doubt, their record for human rights is atrocious no doubt but history proves they are not warmongers. They believe they could survive a first strike and win. The soviets are the real threat, Putin is the threat ( little man syndrome ). Our conventional forces are second to none but are economy is our greatest weapon.

 

[cowslinger64]

Our intelligence has a pretty good handle on Chinese nuclear deployment, nothing mounted for a first strike. The Russians are just the opposite. The Chinese are a communist regime no doubt, their record for human rights is atrocious no doubt but history proves they are not warmongers. They believe they could survive a first strike and win. The soviets are the real threat, Putin is the threat ( little man syndrome ). Our conventional forces are second to none but are economy is our greatest weapon.

You're not gonna get anywhere with the limpdicks that lurve war as a sack replacement.

As for your question about the purpose of the Mueller investigation, read the Rosenstein letter. It was about Russian interference and anything that may arise from it.

The collusion garbage was started by the Washington Examiner, a right wing slanting paper...it was used to keep the kool-aid drinkers distracted..and it's worked wonders.

 

[cowslinger64]

Really? Let’s ask Saddam and Osama bin Laden. Wait, we can’t.

You're a total ignoramus if you think that worked out well for the US. Around 5000 American troops paid the price..along with countless injuries and civilian casualties.

And the trillions it cost as well.