Moderated Comments?

[LoquiSordidaAdMe]

I just noticed that public story comments are being moderated. I don't think that was case before, and I'm not sure exactly when it started. I thought it was strange that my latest story wasn't getting any comments, and then suddenly there were six all at once. There was a lag, and then several at once. I thought it was just the nature of randomness.

Then I submitted a comment on a story I had read. It never showed up in "My Activity". I thought perhaps I had previewed it but failed to submit it, so I went back and wrote the comment again. This time I noticed the message about comments being moderated. Once again though, the comment never showed up in "My Activity" or on the story. I asked the author about it in a PM, and they hadn't seen the comment either.

This particular comment noted how clean and polished the story was; there were no typos that I could see. I said that I usually expect to see a few typos in any story on Literotica. I have to wonder if this extremely mild criticism of Lit is why my comment was rejected by a moderator.

And now I also wonder if there have been critical comments on my stories that I haven't seen. I have a pretty thick skin. I'd like to see the negative feedback and learn what I can from it.

So, how long have comments been moderated? Did I miss a memo? Is there any information out there on how or why comments may be rejected? And does anyone else have an opinion about moderated comments?

 

[holliday1960]

I just noticed that public story comments are being moderated. I don't think that was case before, and I'm not sure exactly when it started. I thought it was strange that my latest story wasn't getting any comments, and then suddenly there were six all at once. There was a lag, and then several at once. I thought it was just the nature of randomness

It was because of a wave of endless spam. I don't think they are stripping real comments, good or bad. Just bots and spam... you know... the ones that say something like: I'm a hot, naughty cam-girl. Come join me on this other site and I'll show you my...

You didn't miss anything, Loqui. At least nothing of any redeeming value.

 

[KeithD]

I don't think they are being moderated as submitted. I had five this morning on three stories by one of my habitual trolls that were just ugly personal attacks, three of which proposed that my previous account, sr71plt, had been banned because I was posting stories in a new account name (which has been fully explained. I switched at 1,000 entries, as my list was becoming two long to manage). I think the attack was caused because I rattled the troll's most-recent alt on the political board. I just deleted the onslaught comments from this morning.

 

[LoquiSordidaAdMe]

The author PMd me to say the second comment finally showed up on the story. I checked, and it was listed in "My Activity" about 24 hours after I'd posted it... And after I'd started this thread.

I wonder if the Comment Mods are the same people who moderate the forums. Hmm.

 

[TxRad]

The author PMd me to say the second comment finally showed up on the story. I checked, and it was listed in "My Activity" about 24 hours after I'd posted it... And after I'd started this thread.

I wonder if the Comment Mods are the same people who moderate the forums. Hmm.

I think it is probably a bot checking for spam. With the number of comments a day, I can see it getting backed up.

 

[ElectricBlue]

So, how long have comments been moderated? Did I miss a memo? Is there any information out there on how or why comments may be rejected? And does anyone else have an opinion about moderated comments?

See, that's what happens when you take six months off to research Australia and remote control vibes.

Yes, you missed the memo. As others have noted, it came in a while back in response to the spam bots and link attacks in story comments. There's no evidence comments are "moderated" by human eyes any more than they ever were, and as KeithD notes, the same shitola gets through.

So it's still up to you to delete the junk, and anecdotally Laurel runs a hate-crime algorithm from time to time and will delete comments without referral to authors.

Comments take anywhere from fifteen minutes to four or five hours to get released, so there's obviously some kind of queue/server refresh cycle going on.

Edit: there you go, up to a day to get processed. Maybe there are eyeballs.

 

[Emirus]

I can’t see the problem with the “I’m looking for a guy with a ten foot duck to fuck me” spam. You just delete it. After all you are notified every time a comment is posted so spam is only there for a short time before being deleted. Comments should go up as soon as posted.

I’m editing a story at the moment for someone with two accounts. I honestly can’t see the point but if that’s what the individual wants to do that’s up to them.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I can’t see the problem with the “I’m looking for a guy with a ten foot duck to fuck me” spam.

The point was, the junk was saturating the system, which is why the site took a global approach to finding a cure. Which they did, the link spam attacks have all gone away.

 

[49greg]

I noticed this a little while ago too. A few weeks ago I made a comment on a story I read and then clicked on the "click here to see your comment" thing (maybe it's not those exact words) and got a message that it would be posted later or something like that.

I have also noticed that comments don't seem to be making it to "my activity". Or at least some do, some don't seem to have made it. And I usually make nice comments.

 

[Emirus]

The point was, the junk was saturating the system, which is why the site took a global approach to finding a cure. Which they did, the link spam attacks have all gone away.

Then the solution is no longer needed. But it’s still being used. Must be a simple matter for it to be put on hold.

 

[gordo12]

Comments take anywhere from fifteen minutes to four or five hours to get released,

I've seen them take more than 24 hours.

I've given up making a lot of comments by the time the author sees them it's too late. I'll never get back to see if they responded.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Then the solution is no longer needed. But it’s still being used. Must be a simple matter for it to be put on hold.

The spam attacks are probably still going on, but the system is finding and purging them in the background, before they hit the comments file, which is why it stays enabled. You don't turn off your virus-checker every time it finds something, do you? No, you keep it on, to find the next thing that comes through.

I've given up making a lot of comments by the time the author sees them it's too late. I'll never get back to see if they responded.??

How can a comment be "too late" - if you've got something worth saying, why wouldn't you say it? An author might only visit Lit once a week, and take a while to respond anyway, be on holidays or something. That seems an odd reaction, to me.

 

[RosieVelvet]

I just noticed that public story comments are being moderated. I don't think that was case before, and I'm not sure exactly when it started. I thought it was strange that my latest story wasn't getting any comments, and then suddenly there were six all at once. There was a lag, and then several at once. I thought it was just the nature of randomness.

Then I submitted a comment on a story I had read. It never showed up in "My Activity". I thought perhaps I had previewed it but failed to submit it, so I went back and wrote the comment again. This time I noticed the message about comments being moderated. Once again though, the comment never showed up in "My Activity" or on the story. I asked the author about it in a PM, and they hadn't seen the comment either.

This particular comment noted how clean and polished the story was; there were no typos that I could see. I said that I usually expect to see a few typos in any story on Literotica. I have to wonder if this extremely mild criticism of Lit is why my comment was rejected by a moderator.

And now I also wonder if there have been critical comments on my stories that I haven't seen. I have a pretty thick skin. I'd like to see the negative feedback and learn what I can from it.

So, how long have comments been moderated? Did I miss a memo? Is there any information out there on how or why comments may be rejected? And does anyone else have an opinion about moderated comments?

My own comment on my own story had to go to moderation so there does seem to be a clampdown going on. Earlier comments I made went straight through.

 

[NotWise]

Then the solution is no longer needed. But it’s still being used. Must be a simple matter for it to be put on hold.

We had some spamming incidents before the one that caused the site to start moderating. It isn't going to stop. If they put it on hold, then they'd just have to reinstitute it later.

I don't comment very often, but I did comment on one of the 750-word stories. It went through without delay. I've only once seen the message that my comment would be moderated, and it posted very quickly after that.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I have also noticed that comments don't seem to be making it to "my activity". Or at least some do, some don't seem to have made it. And I usually make nice comments.

Yes, it can be hit and miss. I've occasionally seen comments on stories long after they were posted, that I swear didn't come through my CP. I always check All Activity and Works Activity now - there seem to be different criteria used to supply the feeds. I don't comment much, I think I seen all of them on My Activity. There are gremlins behind the panels, I reckon.

 

[Emirus]

Not me

I've given up making a lot of comments by the time the author sees them it's too late. I'll never get back to see if they responded.[/QUOTE]

Just wanted to make it clear that gordo12 made the above comment not myself. I still make comments whenever I think necessary and the time before they come up doesn’t bother me.

 

[Emirus]

We had some spamming incidents before the one that caused the site to start moderating. It isn't going to stop. If they put it on hold, then they'd just have to reinstitute it later.

Once you’ve got a system in place reactivating it after being put on hold isn’t difficult.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I've given up making a lot of comments by the time the author sees them it's too late. I'll never get back to see if they responded.

Just wanted to make it clear that gordo12 made the above comment not myself. I still make comments whenever I think necessary and the time before they come up doesn’t bother me.

Sorry - my post fixed above, to clarify who said what

 

[MelissaBaby]

I can’t see the problem with the “I’m looking for a guy with a ten foot duck to fuck me” spam.

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[LupusDei]

I can just echo the others: it isn't new thing, and while there is a delay for comments to post now, it shouldn't be problem for anyone really. Most my comments, I have checked after, have posted (much) closer to the 15 min mark than to over a day mark. However, I do follow comments on few stories and I have noticed that the number of comments displayed at a story on the activity list and the number of comments actually readable under the story may sometimes not match until later.

There could be at least two reasons for the delay.

1) the actual link hunter algorithm run not in real time, but either as a timed job on the server on fixed intervals, or maybe (way less probably) on demand when a number of new comments are collected. This set the minimum delay time for any given comment to show up.

2) the extremely aggressive caching of the story site: according to what I have read, edits of stories post way later than they are accepted, and may appear gradually over time on the live site. Already "moderated" comments may probably fall victim for this same caching mechanism. This set the maximum time a comment may hang in limbo.

(And this can be considered a caching bug, as is the situation with the edits actually. It can be avoided. Although, for a site with mostly static content it makes sense to prioritize caching over interactivity. Recently, I start to notice caching issues here on forum (threads may not mark as read sometimes), that is a troubling development.)

3) another -- very unlikely -- reason might be, that comments flagged, but not outright rejected by the bot may be feed to another bot, or even wait for actual human eyes to be approved.


There a somewhat funny story how I first noticed the fact about moderation of the comments. I was reading some long chaptered thing, and leaving comments under almost every chapter, and my musings become increasingly longer as it progressed. Then I wrote a real mega comment, a long meta discussing about the story and other comments with myself, and when I finished it, I hit that link that shows it in the actual tread, and saw the moderation message... and went like, "oh fuck, I'm finally overdone it apparently," then think back and realize it did contain a long list of potential trigger words, and decided it will be a good test to see if it will get posted (my reasoning was that human eyes would find it harmless if not constructive, but a bot may reject it, purely based on a lexicon used). Wen I looked some not-so-long but unknown time after, it had been posted.

All comments I do remember writing have eventually showed up, both under stories and in "My activity," but I don't have any reliable statistics about the delay times as I don't have habit to check that every five minutes or less.

 

[LoquiSordidaAdMe]

I think it is probably a bot checking for spam. With the number of comments a day, I can see it getting backed up.

I suppose it could be. I have no idea how much capacity Lit's servers have to deal with this sort of thing. I suppose during peak commenting, the queue could get quite long. It doesn't explain why my second comment posted, but my first vanished. I was willing to believe that I only previewed the first time and failed to submit, so I guess that can serve as an explanation.

See, that's what happens when you take six months off to research Australia and remote control vibes.

Yes, you missed the memo...

I've been researching orgasmic birth too. My Google ads are getting weird. Yes, it's been quite a while since I paid close attention to comments. And I'm not complaining. Laurel's site, Laurel's rules. If there was an actual post or memo that missed with guidelines for what is and isn't acceptable, I'd want to read it. Of course this being Literotica, I'm not surprised the rules are unwritten. Half the fun is figuring out for yourself where the lines are drawn.

I've given up making a lot of comments by the time the author sees them it's too late. I'll never get back to see if they responded.

I don't comment very often, but I did comment on one of the 750-word stories. It went through without delay. I've only once seen the message that my comment would be moderated, and it posted very quickly after that.

I love getting comments, both good and bad. Even the Grammar Nazis; I rarely make the same mistake after one of them calls me out. I like to leave comments too and try to be constructive if I have criticism. I'd hate to lose "negative" comments either way on a bot's decision.

Why a duck?

That's a viaduct.

1) the actual link hunter algorithm run not in real time, but either as a timed job on the server on fixed intervals, or maybe (way less probably) on demand when a number of new comments are collected. This set the minimum delay time for any given comment to show up.

2) the extremely aggressive caching of the story site: according to what I have read, edits of stories post way later than they are accepted, and may appear gradually over time on the live site. Already "moderated" comments may probably fall victim for this same caching mechanism. This set the maximum time a comment may hang in limbo.

(And this can be considered a caching bug, as is the situation with the edits actually. It can be avoided. Although, for a site with mostly static content it makes sense to prioritize caching over interactivity. Recently, I start to notice caching issues here on forum (threads may not mark as read sometimes), that is a troubling development.)

3) another -- very unlikely -- reason might be, that comments flagged, but not outright rejected by the bot may be feed to another bot, or even wait for actual human eyes to be approved.

Those are certainly all possible. There's probably no real point in speculating - I mean beyond the fun of it. I've also seen threads in the forum fail to change from unread to read, but a page refresh usually clears that up.

 

[NotWise]

I've been researching orgasmic birth too. My Google ads are getting weird

Interesting topic, if I really know what you mean. My wife was a childbirth educator and apprenticed as a lay midwife. She called the birth of our third daughter (at home, with a midwife and family all around) as the greatest orgasm she could ever have. It totally changed her expectations.

If you still have questions, then you can PM me.

 

[holliday1960]

Interesting topic, if I really know what you mean. My wife was a childbirth educator and apprenticed as a lay midwife. She called the birth of our third daughter (at home, with a midwife and family all around) as the greatest orgasm she could ever have. It totally changed her expectations.

If you still have questions, then you can PM me.

You know what? I'm gonna pretend you didn't even just say that. That goes for BOTH of you. Ugh! MEN!!!

 

[ChloeTzang]

You know what? I'm gonna pretend you didn't even just say that. That goes for BOTH of you. Ugh! MEN!!!

Having been part of a few deliveries, I'd have to say the last thing I'd rate them as is orgasmic. Epidurals are about the best thing since sliced bread was invented IMHO.

 

[holliday1960]

Having been part of a few deliveries, I'd have to say the last thing I'd rate them as is orgasmic. Epidurals are about the best thing since sliced bread was invented IMHO.

That's what I'm talking about, girlfriend. Childbirth is the REASON they invented pain meds, spinal or otherwise.