Mueller’s abuses on view for the world to see

[TalkRadio1]

Something struck a raw nerve in this country when 26 agents showed up with automatic weapons drawn in a pre-dawn raid to arrest Roger Stone, terrorizing his deaf wife. Suddenly, all the mumbo jumbo about special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation being objective and focused on national security melted away in the face of a police-state action so completely inexplicable.

There could be no real excuse for such a potentially dangerous, life-threatening action except to use police power for the purpose of intimidation, under the color and cover of law.

The most destructive force here appears to be the Mueller investigation itself because not only did it commit a string of constitutionally questionable actions, it also it drove a stake into the foreign policy objective of having a better relationship with Russia so as to peel them off of alliances with China, Syria and Iran. Russia needs us a lot more than we need it, and yet the real damage of the Mueller investigation is that it made détente with Russia impossible.

Hopefully, the Mueller investigation will now wrap up after two full years. Likely its report will be designed to sow doubt rather than create finality, ignoring that this was all instigated by a fake, discredited dossier. If anyone lied to the FBI and caused the resources of the United States to be wasted, it is Christopher Steele — and yet, there is no evidence that any action is being taken to hold him accountable for the biggest hoax in American history. This is akin, in size and scope, to the Dreyfus affair in France. It may even languish for a while as that case did, but I predict there will be justice eventually for those who falsely created this hit to our democracy and foreign policy.

https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/428195-muellers-abuses-on-view-for-the-world-to-see

 

[bbx56]

you forgot to mention that was written by a CuntCLinton advisor who also said CuntClinton had MORE interactions with Russia then Trump did and its called

OPPO RESEARCH

That make you FAKE NEWS!


Oh, and STFU and get off-a MY SIDE

You do a SHIT JOB

 

[about_average]

Hmmm, who's opinion to go with?
Mark Penn?

...a managing partner of the Stagwell Group, a private equity firm specializing in marketing services companies, as well as chairman of the Harris Poll and author of “Microtrends Squared.”

Or with James A. Gagliano?

I have served as a US Army officer, tasked to respond to numerous "congressional inquiries," like Graham's, and also retired as a 25-year FBI veteran who was appointed a SWAT senior team leader, responsible for planning and executing innumerable arrest operations.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/r...id-was-totally-by-the-book-opinion/ar-BBT1uU1

Or maybe Michael German, another retired FBI agent?

...said Stone may have himself contributed to the way the FBI planned his arrest by his bombastic remarks, which have included posing with weapons and "training" at a firing range in case of a "civil war."

"Part of the problem is, if you act crazy in public, you take the risk of people believing it," German said. "If you're saying things about resisting the government, then the government has to imagine that you might do that."

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/01/6903...se-unusual-force-when-it-arrested-roger-stone

 

[Oblimo]

For fuck's sake, that's what the FBI always does when they want to prevent the destruction of evidence.

I don't know about Stone (actually I do), but the first thing I'd do if my attorney called me to say the FBI called him to arrange for my amicable arrest, would be to draw a bath, plug in the hair dryer...

and drop the dryer in the bath along with my laptop, desktop, and everything I own with a name starting with a lower case "i".

And then toss them in the oven and set it to "auto clean."

And then drill holes in the hard drives.

 

[Boxlicker101]

You can also blame the Dems for being so sloppy with classified material that they were hacked.

 

[Boxlicker101]

For fuck's sake, that's what the FBI always does when they want to prevent the destruction of evidence.

I don't know about Stone (actually I do), but the first thing I'd do if my attorney called me to say the FBI called him to arrange for my amicable arrest, would be to draw a bath, plug in the hair dryer...

and drop the dryer in the bath along with my laptop, desktop, and everything I own with a name starting with a lower case "i".

And then toss them in the oven and set it to "auto clean."

And then drill holes in the hard drives.

Unless it's Hillary doing the destroying.

 

[Oblimo]

Unless it's Hillary doing the destroying.

That's because they did not issue a warrant for her arrest, pussyface.

 

[Rightguide]

For fuck's sake, that's what the FBI always does when they want to prevent the destruction of evidence.

I don't know about Stone (actually I do), but the first thing I'd do if my attorney called me to say the FBI called him to arrange for my amicable arrest, would be to draw a bath, plug in the hair dryer...

and drop the dryer in the bath along with my laptop, desktop, and everything I own with a name starting with a lower case "i".

And then toss them in the oven and set it to "auto clean."

And then drill holes in the hard drives.

Stone had already surrendered all of his electronic devices and documents requested by Mueller. They don't use a 27 man tactical platoon, and amphibious force, and armored vehicles, to take down a white collar suspect represented by counsel, who isn't a flight risk, has no passport, nor owns any firearms.

 

[bbx56]

That's because they did not issue a warrant for her arrest, pussyface.

she and the law firm DID get a subpena

and the shit was DESTROYED AFTERWARDS

 

[Rightguide]

The truth is there is now in place a two tiered Justice system, one for Democrats and friends of Hillary, and one for Republicans and friends of Trump.

 

[Oblimo]

Oh great, RG's back. More replies for the filter fire, I guess.

 

[bellisarius]

That was political theater. If you don't think there's a problem with the DOJ you're insane.

 

[HisArpy]

For fuck's sake, that's what the FBI always does when they want to prevent the destruction of evidence.

I don't know about Stone (actually I do), but the first thing I'd do if my attorney called me to say the FBI called him to arrange for my amicable arrest, would be to draw a bath, plug in the hair dryer...

and drop the dryer in the bath along with my laptop, desktop, and everything I own with a name starting with a lower case "i".

And then toss them in the oven and set it to "auto clean."

And then drill holes in the hard drives.

So basically you're admitting that if you were in Stone's place, you'd commit a felony by destroying evidence (and thereby actually create evidence of a crime you can't destroy) rather than face the existing charges which you believe you can successfully defend against.

Yeah, that's not too smart.

 

[bbx56]

Oh great, RG's back. More replies for the filter fire, I guess.

what an asshole

you cant stand differing views so you IGGY

jackass NIGGER

 

[bbx56]

Book Burning by another name

 

[bbx56]

That was political theater. If you don't think there's a problem with the DOJ you're insane.

teh DOJ, FBI have become a criminal orginization

by any measures they engaged in a BLOODLESS coup and are still at it

they went after Stone and Cohen cause the DUMZ on Senate Cmt sent a referal, they didnt go after Matt K's lying acusers DESPITE Senate Jud Cmt asking them to


the examples are boundless


CRIMINAL

 

[about_average]

Stone had already surrendered all of his electronic devices and documents requested by Mueller. They don't use a 27 man tactical platoon, and amphibious force, and armored vehicles, to take down a white collar suspect represented by counsel, who isn't a flight risk, has no passport, nor owns any firearms.

Actually they do, according to people who actually know what they are talking about.

And they knew he didn't own any firearms how?

 

[phrodeau]

The truth is there is now in place a two tiered Justice system, one for Democrats and friends of Hillary, and one for Republicans and friends of Trump.

Which one has been shooting black people?

 

[HisArpy]

Actually they do, according to people who actually know what they are talking about.

And they knew he didn't own any firearms how?

No, they don't.

In certain cases where the person sought under the arrest warrant is known to have an attorney, has been knowingly involved in the process leading up to the arrest, is aware that he/she will likely be arrested, is not a flight risk, and the alleged crime is not a violent crime, law enforcement TYPICALLY informs the person's attorney of the warrant and a time/place for surrender is arranged.

You don't do an in-force tactical entry at night for an elderly man who is accused of a non violent offense and who is not a flight risk.



Your second question is absolutely ridiculous and indicates how little you know about law enforcement and gun laws.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

So basically you're admitting that if you were in Stone's place, you'd commit a felony by destroying evidence (and thereby actually create evidence of a crime you can't destroy) rather than face the existing charges which you believe you can successfully defend against.

Yeah, that's not too smart.

You picked up on that, did you?

 

[Que]

Which one has been shooting black people?

The one that shows deference to blacks over white suspect's. You're more likely to be shot if you're white than black, despite the fact that all cops are aware that:

1)There is at *least* a one-third chance that any black Male they encounter has felony priors and likely would prefer not to go back to prison. When you consider the areas that they are much more likely to have contact with blacks the numbers are higher.

2)They are much more likely to be shot by a black suspect than a white suspect.

3) Half of murders violent are committed in this country by a demographic that is 3-4% of the population

That said, Sean Renaud have convinced me that a stop with a black suspect is very likely different than one with the white suspect. Probably because they have all of that in mind that said I think they're much more likely to put hands on a black suspect to restrain him to cuff him to immobilize him while they sort things out.

It's likely because they have their guard up that they are actually engaging in a in better safer procedure they're more likely to call for backup they're more likely to escalate early in a way that does not allow the suspect time to get to a weapon or to present a viable threat. It's shut down early.

But either way, the perpetually repeated lie is not only an atrocious lie it's also dangerous to public safety and it's despicable. You should be ashamed of yourself. We now have an entire generation of youth growing up believing that they are likely to be shot by cops on the basis of their race when the opposite is true.

That makes the entire situation more dangerous for cops and more dangerous for black suspects. Why would you want to exacerbate that, especially with lies? Obviously, black lives do not matter to you.

 

[Rightguide]

Actually they do, according to people who actually know what they are talking about.

But former U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia Joseph diGenova blasted the tactic as “outrageous.”

“I am appalled that the U.S. Department of Justice and the FBI have permitted a vindictive use of arrest in a non-violent case with a defendant who was willing to surrender,” diGenova, who has informally been an adviser to the president throughout the Russia investigation, told Fox News. “This is an abuse of power and it underscores the vindictive nature of it by the fact that CNN was alerted ahead of time.”

He added: “For those of us who have been prosecutors and have prosecuted mob figures, drug dealers and terrorists—those are the people for whom these aggressive tactics are reserved. Not a Roger Stone.”

“Make no mistake,” he said. “This was designed to be vindictive and intimidating.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/roger-stones-predawn-fbi-arrest-operation-sparks-controver

Trey Gowdy, Lindsey Graham, Chris Christie, all former prosecutors said excessive force was used.

Former Assistant FBI Director Jim Kallstrom on the Lou Dobbs Show:

JAMES KALLSTROM (GUEST): That's why what they did to Stone is so outrageous because it shows the FBI's really thuggish actions, and this isn't the first time. They did the same thing with [Paul] Manafort and and the same thing with [Michael] Cohen's office. So I mean it's really, really disgusting what they did. And I have had a plethora of calls from people, my former SWAT commander and others who are very, very, very sad about what happened. It was is a sad thing. So, where is the leadership? This can't happen. If the special prosecutor wanted that to happen, the answer should have been no. We're going to knock on the door with three or four people. We're going to do whatever we're going to do; we're going to exercise the warrant. But you don't bring 29 people. You don't have all these weapons.

Now tell me they don't know what they're talking about.

 

[bbx56]

Now tell me they don't know what they're talking about.

They dont

Only poster known as BELOW AVERAGE has a right to the opinion YOU should have

 

[Rightguide]

The one that shows deference to blacks over white suspect's. You're more likely to be shot if you're white than black, despite the fact that all cops are aware that:

1)There is at *least* a one-third chance that any black Male they encounter has felony priors and likely would prefer not to go back to prison. When you consider the areas that they are much more likely to have contact with blacks the numbers are higher.

2)They are much more likely to be shot by a black suspect than a white suspect.

3) Half of murders violent are committed in this country by a demographic that is 3-4% of the population

That said, Sean Renaud have convinced me that a stop with a black suspect is very likely different than one with the white suspect. Probably because they have all of that in mind that said I think they're much more likely to put hands on a black suspect to restrain him to cuff him to immobilize him while they sort things out.

It's likely because they have their guard up that they are actually engaging in a in better safer procedure they're more likely to call for backup they're more likely to escalate early in a way that does not allow the suspect time to get to a weapon or to present a viable threat. It's shut down early.

But either way, the perpetually repeated lie is not only an atrocious lie it's also dangerous to public safety and it's despicable. You should be ashamed of yourself. We now have an entire generation of youth growing up believing that they are likely to be shot by cops on the basis of their race when the opposite is true.

That makes the entire situation more dangerous for cops and more dangerous for black suspects. Why would you want to exacerbate that, especially with lies? Obviously, black lives do not matter to you.

The towering ignorance in the Shire has to be genetic.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Which one has been shooting black people?

Almost entirely other black people.