AT&T Plans to Fire 7,000 People Despite Tax Breaks, Net Neutrality Repeal

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AT&T Plans to Fire 7,000 People Despite Tax Breaks, Net Neutrality Repeal

We don’t know how much AT&T spent on capital expenditures for the entire year, but in Q3 2018 the company stated its estimated capex for FY2018 would be ~$22B. That’s on par with what it spent in 2017, with no increase associated with either the GOP tax bill or the $20B windfall.

In the memo (leaked to Motherboard and confirmed by AT&T), AT&T tries to dodge its own previous statements, claiming that its CEO had previously said that $1B in investment creates 7,000 jobs “across the broader economy.” But that’s not what Stephenson said.

In 2017, Stephenson claimed that the Trump tax cuts would result in AT&T boosting its investment levels. He knew exactly what AT&T would do: It would invest. That investment would create jobs, not “across the broader economy,” but for AT&T workers. Hard hat jobs, with great benefits and good pay. The kind of jobs Americans want. The kind of jobs a CEO would dangle in front of Americans to make them think supporting a giant tax cut and regulatory reduction for corporations was a good idea. The kind of jobs you talk about when you use a pronoun like “we,” which doesn’t mean “Other companies besides AT&T.”

https://www.extremetech.com/interne...ople-despite-tax-breaks-net-neutrality-repeal

Personal Note (not mine)

Sometimes, in a story like this one, someone will pop in and accuse me of political bias. While I won’t pretend to lack political opinions, the point here isn’t political. It’s ethical.

Put simply, I’m tired of being lied to. The tax cuts and net neutrality repeal were advertised, justified, and declared necessary because of the necessary and critical impact they would have on overall investment and infrastructure. None of it happened. No one is punished for it. The chairman of the FCC has produced no data at any point that actually justified his claim that net neutrality was a threat to broadband investment or had resulted in a reduction of it. (At least, none that stood up to factual analysis).

We live in a country where powerful heads of major multi-national companies with resources and wealth that rival that of some countries are allowed to blithely lie about their own intentions and the impact of laws that blatantly favor their own self-interests. Our politicians, instead of serving as guardians of the public good, fall over themselves to enable this nihilistic behavior. And everyone — including, all too often, members of the press — treats this as business as usual.
 
Personal Note (not mine)

Sometimes, in a story like this one, someone will pop in and accuse me of political bias. While I won’t pretend to lack political opinions, the point here isn’t political. It’s ethical.

:rolleyes: LOL

Immediately bitches about private companies spending and investing in ways he doesn't like and is mad the government hasn't gone all Stalin on M'uricuh.

Put simply, I’m tired of being lied to. The tax cuts and net neutrality repeal were advertised, justified, and declared necessary because of the necessary and critical impact they would have on overall investment and infrastructure. None of it happened. No one is punished for it. The chairman of the FCC has produced no data at any point that actually justified his claim that net neutrality was a threat to broadband investment or had resulted in a reduction of it. (At least, none that stood up to factual analysis).

We live in a country where powerful heads of major multi-national companies with resources and wealth that rival that of some countries are allowed to blithely lie about their own intentions and the impact of laws that blatantly favor their own self-interests.

Oh noes....people are free to do what they want and invest in their own interest! The horror!!!

So....so terrible!!

Our politicians, instead of serving as guardians of the public good

That's some naive commie shit right there.....like "here's yer sign!!" comedy special level naive.

fall over themselves to enable this nihilistic behavior.

Freedom to pursue ones happiness instead of being enslaved to the god state isn't nihilistic behavior comrade.

And everyone — including, all too often, members of the press — treats this as business as usual.

Because it's the USA......not Soviet Russia or Mao's China.

Get a fucking clue.
 
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My goodness that's a lot of people to be out of a job. I'll say a prayer for them. It really is quite sad. :(
 
Personal Note (not mine)

Sometimes, in a story like this one, someone will pop in and accuse me of political bias. While I won’t pretend to lack political opinions, the point here isn’t political. It’s ethical.

Put simply, I’m tired of being lied to. The tax cuts and net neutrality repeal were advertised, justified, and declared necessary because of the necessary and critical impact they would have on overall investment and infrastructure. None of it happened. No one is punished for it. The chairman of the FCC has produced no data at any point that actually justified his claim that net neutrality was a threat to broadband investment or had resulted in a reduction of it. (At least, none that stood up to factual analysis).

We live in a country where powerful heads of major multi-national companies with resources and wealth that rival that of some countries are allowed to blithely lie about their own intentions and the impact of laws that blatantly favor their own self-interests. Our politicians, instead of serving as guardians of the public good, fall over themselves to enable this nihilistic behavior. And everyone — including, all too often, members of the press — treats this as business as usual.

Dude, when you cherry pick your stories while ignoring other stories of success, your point is NOTHING BUT political.

You're outraged that you've been lied to? Then stop reading the crap you're being fed by the fake news media. Here's some real truth:

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-tax-cuts-federal-revenues-deficits/

That bit of information is countered (or attempted to be countered) by Bloomberg's internally inconsistent doom & gloom article:

The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act that President Trump signed a year ago seems to have boosted economic growth in 2018. But there’s little evidence yet that it’s setting up the U.S. economy for faster growth over the longer term, which is what the White House and the legislation’s backers in Congress promised.

There’s a lot we still don’t know about the impact of the TCJA, given that the tax code is just one of many variables influencing the economy. “There will never be the smoking-gun study that says, ‘This was the effect,’ ” says Joseph Rosenberg, a senior research associate at the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center.

The early results were impressive. Growth, which has averaged 2.2 percent a year since the end of the recession in 2009, accelerated to 4.2 percent in the second quarter, on an annualized basis, and a still strong 3.5 percent in the third. The robust expansion helped drive down unemployment in September to a 49-year low of 3.7 percent, where it remains.

The tax cuts gave a Keynesian boost to demand for goods and services, so its effects are quickly wearing off as the fresh demand is sated: Economists surveyed by Bloomberg expect annualized growth to decline to 2.6 percent in the current quarter, then continue to slow to reach 2 percent by the end of 2019.



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...d-an-impact-but-not-the-one-backers-hoped-for


Oh, and remember how D's complained that the tax cuts were for the rich and mega corporations?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/12/opinion/editorials/trump-tax-cuts.html

HOW does that comport with your rant about AT&T (you know, one of the "rich and mega corporations") LOSING MONEY and having to lay off workers? If the tax cuts were only for the the rich, AT&T should be booming.

What you did was seize on one thing and then project that one thing into an entire economic brain fart and claim the sky was falling because you needed to support your political bias.

AT&T is making a business decision based on it's own internal needs and analysis. That has NOTHING TO DO WITH political decisions/legislation/regulation changes because the motivation was probably based on a future forecast for it's services in a fast changing tech landscape.
 
I have yet to hear anyone explain to me why it would be a good idea for the federal government to treat the Internet as a utility.
The Internet is great now simply because government has kept its hands off.
Net Neutrality? What a joke.
 
I have yet to hear anyone explain to me why it would be a good idea for the federal government to treat the Internet as a utility.
The Internet is great now simply because government has kept its hands off.
Net Neutrality? What a joke.

The point was that the gov decided that they needed to stay relevant on the internet so they attempted to pass a law telling themselves to keep their fingers out of it.

In reality what Net Neutrality did was assert government dominion and control over the previously free and unregulated speech of the internet. And what the government giveth, the government can taketh away. Or tax.
 
Personal Note (not mine)

Guys, when you don't bother to read the bolded words, one must wonder if you read the rest :confused:

:rolleyes: LOL

Immediately bitches about private companies spending and investing in ways he doesn't like and is mad the government hasn't gone all Stalin on M'uricuh.



Oh noes....people are free to do what they want and invest in their own interest! The horror!!!

So....so terrible!!



That's some naive commie shit right there.....like "here's yer sign!!" comedy special level naive.



Freedom to pursue ones happiness instead of being enslaved to the god state isn't nihilistic behavior comrade.



Because it's the USA......not Soviet Russia or Mao's China.

Get a fucking clue.


Dude, when you cherry pick your stories while ignoring other stories of success, your point is NOTHING BUT political.

You're outraged that you've been lied to? Then stop reading the crap you're being fed by the fake news media. Here's some real truth:

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-tax-cuts-federal-revenues-deficits/

That bit of information is countered (or attempted to be countered) by Bloomberg's internally inconsistent doom & gloom article:


Oh, and remember how D's complained that the tax cuts were for the rich and mega corporations?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/12/opinion/editorials/trump-tax-cuts.html

HOW does that comport with your rant about AT&T (you know, one of the "rich and mega corporations") LOSING MONEY and having to lay off workers? If the tax cuts were only for the the rich, AT&T should be booming.

What you did was seize on one thing and then project that one thing into an entire economic brain fart and claim the sky was falling because you needed to support your political bias.

AT&T is making a business decision based on it's own internal needs and analysis. That has NOTHING TO DO WITH political decisions/legislation/regulation changes because the motivation was probably based on a future forecast for it's services in a fast changing tech landscape.

Now that I've helped you understand that it wasn't me who feels this way nor created this article, would you like to try again without the venom? I especially like being berated for cherry picking, of all things :rolleyes:
 
Guys, when you don't bother to read the bolded words, one must wonder if you read the rest :confused:


Now that I've helped you understand that it wasn't me

You didn't help me understand anything, I knew it wasn't you and never said or suggested otherwise.

And no amount of smug from you will change that. ;)


who feels this way nor created this article, would you like to try again without the venom? I especially like being berated for cherry picking, of all things :rolleyes:

I stand by the criticism.

You going to address that or you going to avoid it because you can't and would rather relish the fact that you erroneously assumed I didn't read your disclaimer?
 
It's rare that every single person in a thread has a learning disability besides the op.
 
It's rare that every single person in a thread has a learning disability besides the op.

Toss in que-ball and you'd have almost all of them.. at least some of the other incredibly stupid people here know how to shut up every now and then.
 
It's rare that every single person in a thread has a learning disability besides the op.

Evidence?


From where I'm sitting OP looks like he's just worming around now that the idiotic shit he posted has been torn apart.
 
Toss in que-ball and you'd have almost all of them.. at least some of the other incredibly stupid people here know how to shut up every now and then.

Another weak sauce shit talker who's never had a discussion above the name calling 3rd grade level.

Back to work janitor boy.
 
Guys, when you don't bother to read the bolded words, one must wonder if you read the rest :confused:

Now that I've helped you understand that it wasn't me who feels this way nor created this article, would you like to try again without the venom? I especially like being berated for cherry picking, of all things :rolleyes:

If it wasn't your opinion, WHY did you post it without any personal rebuttal?

Could it be that you agree with the position stated?
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Which, if so, MAKES IT your opinion too.
 
Speaking of Net Neutrality, I wonder if Ajit Pai has been furloughed..,
 
Why cant "people" like the Oh PEE poster

Just admit they are wrong when they are wrong:D
 
You didn't help me understand anything, I knew it wasn't you and never said or suggested otherwise.

And no amount of smug from you will change that. ;)

I stand by the criticism.

You going to address that or you going to avoid it because you can't and would rather relish the fact that you erroneously assumed I didn't read your disclaimer?

If it wasn't your opinion, WHY did you post it without any personal rebuttal?

Could it be that you agree with the position stated?
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Which, if so, MAKES IT your opinion too.


Can't be "this". The part that's bolded literally is taken from the sourced article. Everyone is looking for a fight :rolleyes:
 
You enjoying arguing semantics. I attributed the content to the author which was lost on you and now your response to being called out for it is this? Okely Dokely.

No it wasn't.

You just can't come up with any sort of response to the criticism. :D


And that's the best you can come up with, is to nitpick the technicality of my quoting what you posted.

Keep avoiding the content.
 
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