White House warns shutdown could carry on after emergency declaration

[HisArpy]

people have bills due at specific times that, if they can't be paid, might mean they lose a whole damned lot. they can know about this in advance, of course they can.

just because you claim to be fortunate enough for it not to have any deep impact on you should you be placed in a similar position, doesn't mean you should lack genuine empathy towards those who will be.

turn your back on the genuine stories of people in difficulty, refuse to care at all if you wish, but don't tell me that these stories are untrue. try being 6 months pregnant, married with a four year old who needs childcare paid for so both parents can do their jobs, and having to work for the tsa with no pay for an unknown period of time. his shutdown IS hurting people and will only continue to do so more and more till this is ended.

since the house and senate agreed to funds for border security before the shutdown, on a bill trump won't sign because no wall, how can you claim it's all the fault of pelosi? you suck at this. silly man.

I'm not "well off". I'm 60, semi retired, and still work because I have bills to pay. My paychecks aren't steady either so I have to be aware of the fact that I pay my bills AND put money away for lean times.

I've done this since I was in my teens working a paper route then a min wage job. And NO ONE can say that the military gets paid well. Nor did it when I was serving my tour.

Did my bills go unpaid when I couldn't pay them? Sometimes. Did I whine and cry to others about how awful it was? No. Did I expect someone else to come along and help me out financially? Again, no.

ADULTS plan for bad times. Children expect others to protect them from themselves.

 

[HisArpy]

Dude, you're a fucking piece of shit. Truly. A genuine walking steaming turd. When you go to work you are to get paid. And right now, our airports susceptible to bad hombres, terrorists, and drug cartels because TSA agents feel that way too.

Quit being a partisan cunt and for once, show you deserve to be in this country.

Or Nancy could stop her hijacking of the government, fund the wall, and put those people back to work.

 

[doowdniw]

So are you saying they're different or the same?

 

[Luk]

ADULTS plan for bad times. Children expect others to protect them from themselves.

ADULTS don't hold paychecks from hard-working adults to satisfy their ego and appease their idiotic base.

 

[HisArpy]

So are you saying they're different or the same?

Since I seem to be the one everyone is talking to lately, please clarify what you mean.

*edit here*

I have to run, my appointment alarm just went off. I won't be back until late so any replies will have to wait until tomorrow.

 

[HisArpy]

ADULTS don't hold paychecks from hard-working adults to satisfy their ego and appease their idiotic base.

Lol. Yeah mr. notalawyer, keep thinking that.

 

[Luk]

Lol. Yeah mr. notalawyer, keep thinking that.

That's not even close to an intelligent response. Do you seriously think that you have a capable rebuttal to my post?

 

[Dribble]

ADULTS don't hold paychecks from hard-working adults to satisfy their ego and appease their idiotic base.

Nor do they look down their noses at those that have no choice but to live from paycheck to paycheck. Only traitors to the United States do such things...like Comrade Arpy

 

[von_Bismarck]

That's not even close to an intelligent response. Do you seriously think that you have a capable response to my post?

It's like he didn't bother to read what he was replying to.

 

[Luk]

Nor do they look down their noses at those that have no choice but to live from paycheck to paycheck. Only traitors to the United States do such things...like Comrade Arpy

Rapey has already proven hisself to not know much about his chosen profession. I'd rather talk to a garbage man that kills it at his job than some incompetent "counselor".

 

[Luk]

It's like he didn't bother to read what he was replying to.

He saw Luk and his brain immediately shut down like his hero's administration.

 

[bigsly]

why the hell can't the gov't be reopened and they discuss this once people are working again and services resumed?

Trump asked Pelosi in their last meeting basically that:

I asked what is going to happen in 30 days if I quickly open things up, are you going to approve Border Security which includes a Wall or Steel Barrier? Nancy said, NO.

Recall also Trump stated he was fully prepared to take ALL the heat for this partial government shutdown, which preemptively defanged all critics who continue to imagine they're bringing anything new to the table as they blame him ONLY for this partial government shutdown.

Trump's entire adult life's legacy as the self-proclaimed best negotiator/deal maker who's ever lived is completely at stake here: if he caves on this, his self-ascribed legacy takes perhaps a fatal blow, while his chance for a 2nd term totally evaporates. Big stakes, indeed, for him, too.

 

[Dribble]

Trump asked Pelosi in their last meeting basically that:

No...he "basically" asked what she needed in return for the wall. She said this discussion was about reopening the Govt...not building the wall. And he said there is nothing to talk about then and got up and walked out. But Comrade...we know what side you are on...those that support a traitor...are traitors.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

LMAO

Quoted for posterity: It's not Trump insisting on the wall, it's "Border Patrol."

US Border Patrol Doesn't Want a Wall—They Want Drones and Sensors

U.S. border officer: "Do you think a wall is gonna stop them?"

So here's how you can insist you're "not defending" Trump: It's not Trump's desire to build a wall (seem to remember something about Who's Gonna Pay for the Wall, but hey) it's BORDER PATROL (not true, but hey), and Trump's only doing what Border Patrol wants (It's "their" policy, not Trump's--not true, but hey).

You're not defending the policy, just the idea that the President has no responsibility for policy decisions, and "Border Patrol" is actually running the country.

Securing the border? Yea, that's part of his actual official job description.

Kinda hard to fault him for that.



No, I'm not.

I don't think we need it....but my alternative though cheaper is far less politically sensitive.



BP says we need sections of wall in certain places....that's not Trump, that's from the professionals on the ground.

I'm defending Trump supporting BP officials and their requests, because again, that's his job....kinda hard to fault him for doing what he's supposed to do.



Liar liar....pant suit on fire.
https://pbs****img.com/media/DdPMEz5VMAEq6us.jpg



Or AntiFa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpGs5bATYbU

Or one of the millions of (D)ipshits who participated in one of dozens of protests against capitalism, immigration enforcement and border security.

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/d14737b58d0574eb77bec3732d1d54b7f910b35d/c=197-0-3772-2688/local/-/media/2018/07/12/USATODAY/USATODAY/636670208937451442-GTY-987458232-101092291.JPG?width=534&height=401&fit=crop
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How much you want to bet every one of those open border, open immigration, profit abolishing socialists are all (D) voters???

 

[bigsly]

Do you somehow fantasize being tagged a traitor by you is in any way offending to me? Were you sitting on the potty training chair in the bathroom when your mommy was teaching her other kids about Sticks and stones?

 

[Dribble]

Do you somehow fantasize being tagged a traitor by you is in any way offending to me? Were you sitting on the potty training chair in the bathroom when your mommy was teaching her other kids about Sticks and stones?

No...just pointing out that traitors aren't just traitors on a porn board. Traitor.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Or Nancy could stop her hijacking of the government . . .

It's not her.

 

[doowdniw]

You claim that it's different but it's not.

No one forces a lawyer to work contingent. No one forces someone to work for the gov.

Lawyers who work contingent sometimes NEVER get paid. You want to hear another fact that most people don't know? Lawyers "advance" fees and costs to their clients who can't pay them prior to the case being resolved.

You know what happens when the case goes against the client after the lawyer advanced those fees/costs?

Yeah, the lawyer eats them. No pay AND he has to shell out for the privilege.

Compare THAT to a gov employee who has to show up to work knowing that eventually he'll get paid everything he's owed.

So are you saying it's different or it's not?

 

[Kirkrapine]

Trump asked Pelosi in their last meeting basically that:



Recall also Trump stated he was fully prepared to take ALL the heat for this partial government shutdown, which preemptively defanged all critics who continue to imagine they're bringing anything new to the table as they blame him ONLY for this partial government shutdown.

Trump's entire adult life's legacy as the self-proclaimed best negotiator/deal maker who's ever lived is completely at stake here: if he caves on this, his self-ascribed legacy takes perhaps a fatal blow, while his chance for a 2nd term totally evaporates. Big stakes, indeed, for him, too.

He has no chance of a second term. He never did.

 

[doowdniw]

I've never met a lawyer (and I've met a bunch) whose primary source of income was contingent fee cases, who only had one case in their bag at any one time. They have to be very particular in the cases they take, and (if they are good) have to manage multiple cases at different stages. Federal gov't employees generally have one source of income, and many are precluded from just randomly taking outside employment.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Trump had two years to get this passed. The REPUBLICANS wouldn't give him money for a wall. Nice try blaming Pelosi.

Or Nancy could stop her hijacking of the government, fund the wall, and put those people back to work.

 

[Oblimo]

Or Nancy could stop her hijacking of the government, fund the wall, and put those people back to work.

Tell me: what is Nancy actively doing that merits the phrase, "hijacking the government."

That's the opposite of hijacking the government. That's governing.

It may be governing in a way you disagree with, but the House has moved forward on the issue in the only way it can, by passing a bill and handing it over to the Senate.

McConnell won't even take it up for discussion. He said he was powerless to do so, perhaps the biggest pile of bullshit McConnell has every farted out of his mouth, and that's saying something.

That's what hijacking the government looks like: stopping the wheels of governance.

Christ, harpy, you are such a partisan hack.

 

[BotanyBoy]

LMAO

Quoted for posterity: It's not Trump insisting on the wall, it's "Border Patrol."

I didn't say that, which is why you had to make it up.

Not "the wall" but sections of wall in strategic locations....

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/10/6838...nals-weigh-in-on-what-s-needede-wall-or-fence

There are other reports coming out of BP if you care to look....so it's not just one agent who thinks walls in certain areas would help.

So here's how you can insist you're "not defending" Trump: It's not Trump's desire to build a wall (seem to remember something about Who's Gonna Pay for the Wall, but hey) it's BORDER PATROL (not true, but hey), and Trump's only doing what Border Patrol wants (It's "their" policy, not Trump's--not true, but hey).

More delusions to go with your made up bullshit from earlier.

You're not defending the policy, just the idea that the President has no responsibility for policy decisions, and "Border Patrol" is actually running the country.

You're insane or you have the reading skills of a common house cat.

Take your meds....get some hooked on phonics.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Trump had two years to get this passed. The REPUBLICANS wouldn't give him money for a wall. Nice try blaming Pelosi.

Really irrelevant, point is he's got her by the short n' greys right now, so it's on her to work with the (R)'s in congress or Trump in the WH.....either way Trump wins as long as he just sits there laughing at her giving her the finger all the way.

 

[butters]

Trump asked Pelosi in their last meeting basically that:



Recall also Trump stated he was fully prepared to take ALL the heat for this partial government shutdown, which preemptively defanged all critics who continue to imagine they're bringing anything new to the table as they blame him ONLY for this partial government shutdown.

Trump's entire adult life's legacy as the self-proclaimed best negotiator/deal maker who's ever lived is completely at stake here: if he caves on this, his self-ascribed legacy takes perhaps a fatal blow, while his chance for a 2nd term totally evaporates. Big stakes, indeed, for him, too.

trump states a lot of things. like he would happily accept the mantle for shutting down the gov't - and has since done anything and everything but. he was holding those out-of-work/working-without-pay-till later (if then) hostage for pelosi to 'grant' him what he wanted. this is NOT right, not when the house and senate both previously agreed on funds and how to move forward with regards to border security without any damned wall.

No...he "basically" asked what she needed in return for the wall. She said this discussion was about reopening the Govt...not building the wall. And he said there is nothing to talk about then and got up and walked out.

yup

Trump had two years to get this passed. The REPUBLICANS wouldn't give him money for a wall. Nice try blaming Pelosi.

double yup