Trump’s Wall

[Klinkster]

California's border is already walled. But I'm having a hard time finding hard facts as to how much of the CA border's physical barriers are contiguous, or what condition they are in. But it sounds like you don't think they're not working.

Why don't you go to Google Earth....and follow the wall....and see where it disappears?

I know....too much like work, and would require some sort of effort.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Tried. You, and others just tell me it's not true.

And being there....that's the real deal.

No, it isn't. You're too close to get the statistical picture. You see more immigrants than other people do because you're at the point of entry.

 

[Oblimo]

Tried. You, and others just tell me it's not true.

And being there....that's the real deal.

You have never described your circumstance beyond saying you are in the desert and you have a undocumented migrants in your area.

Beyond that, you just repeat "walls work."

 

[Luk]

What could possibly go wrong with that?

Oh wait I think they call that the future of California.

How many times do you have to be proven wrong about California for you to stop repeating your ignorance?

 

[Oblimo]

Why don't you go to Google Earth....and follow the wall....and see where it disappears?

I know....too much like work, and would require some sort of effort.

Have you done that?

 

[Klinkster]

You have never described your circumstance beyond saying you are in the desert and you have a undocumented migrants in your area.

Beyond that, you just repeat "walls work."

Yes....but it is obvious you are incapable of reading, much less logical thinking.

 

[Que]

Sounds like exactly the kind of territory that would greatly benefit from a physical barrier to me.

How many miles is it?

Don't know but south of Yuma to Nogales is pretty much exactly like I described. That's half the border between Arizona and Mexico. Terrain gets slightly worse but still very much passable from there all the way to Texas.

What you would want to do is to reinforce areas that they currently can get close to the border from the Mexican side with ease.

Go to Google Maps and look at Highway 2 in Mexico and that stretch that parallels the Border in Arizona that I'm sure is probably a pretty good place to start.

 

[Klinkster]

Have you done that?

Why? I've driven, and rode horseback, west from Nogales, and east from Nogales.

I don't need to, but you sure as hell do.

 

[Klinkster]

Have you done that?

Your problem is, among many, is you only repeat leftist lunatic talking points, and will not research a damn thing on your own.

Makes you an expert.....at nothing.

 

[Que]

How many times do you have to be proven wrong about California for you to stop repeating your ignorance?

I'm sure Sacramento regularly consult with you on such issues as immigration the fact that you are currently the leader in the nation and people living below poverty, and your net business losses.

You have beaches one of the longest, wealthiest coastlines anywhere in the world and with all that wealth combined with a wealth in Silicon Valley and you still can't feed all of the poor people that you have imported. That sounds like a genius plan going forward.

 

[bellisarius]

Of course an alternative plan would be along the lines of the Japanese prison camp at Guadalcanal. Single strand of barbed wire, 6" off the ground, 6' x 6'. They never worried about an escape.

 

[Oblimo]

Why? I've driven, and rode horseback, west from Nogales, and east from Nogales.

How far west? It's like an 800 mile drive from Nogales to the California border, which is what we are talking about.

So you've seen the Nogales Border Wall in person. I've only seen pictures. It's described as a steel bollard fence. I remember Sean Spicer talking about extending the Nogales steel bollard fence. I remember Brietbart having a shitfit.

Has the Nogales Border Wall work, in your experience? How much would it need to be extended to be effective, if it isn't doing enough?

 

[Oblimo]

Your problem is, among many, is you only repeat leftist lunatic talking points, and will not research a damn thing on your own.

Really?

Makes you an expert.....at nothing.

I'm sure as shit not an expert in the US-Mexico border. That's why I keep googling and asking you questions about it.

Questions that you won't answer for some reason.

 

[Klinkster]

How far west? It's like an 800 mile drive from Nogales to the California border, which is what we are talking about.

So you've seen the Nogales Border Wall in person. I've only seen pictures. It's described as a steel bollard fence. I remember Sean Spicer talking about extending the Nogales steel bollard fence. I remember Brietbart having a shitfit.

Has the Nogales Border Wall work, in your experience? How much would it need to be extended to be effective, if it isn't doing enough?

It works right around Nogales pretty well. Needs some improvement, but better than what was there.....nothing. Been going there since the 60's.

Quit being a lazy bastard.
Go to Google Earth.
Find the border, and follow the fence west from Nogales.
It ain't hard....even a moron can do it, so it may be possible for you too.

If you can figure out how to do that....go back to Nogales, and do the same thing to the east.
Probably too much to ask of you.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Of course an alternative plan would be along the lines of the Japanese prison camp at Guadalcanal. Single strand of barbed wire, 6" off the ground, 6' x 6'. They never worried about an escape.

Well, if an immigrant trips, he can just get up and keep going.

 

[Klinkster]

Really?



I'm sure as shit not an expert in the US-Mexico border. That's why I keep googling and asking you questions about it.

Questions that you won't answer for some reason.

I answer them, and get called names, read statistics which mean nothing, and told I am full of shit.

LOOK FOR YOUR TIRED LAZY-ASS SELF.
maybe....just maybe, you can get a clue.
I doubt it though.

 

[Kirkrapine]

I answer them, and get called names, read statistics which mean nothing, and told I am full of shit.

Just because you don't understand them doesn't mean they mean nothing.

 

[Luk]

I'm sure Sacramento regularly consult with you on such issues as immigration the fact that you are currently the leader in the nation and people living below poverty, and your net business losses.

You have beaches one of the longest, wealthiest coastlines anywhere in the world and with all that wealth combined with a wealth in Silicon Valley and you still can't feed all of the poor people that you have imported. That sounds like a genius plan going forward.

No one is being imported, you hysterical fool. Gottdamn, you're a fucking disaster.

And no, no one from Sac has contacted me but I live here and know more than your ignorant landlocked ass.

 

[Klinkster]

Just because you don't understand them doesn't mean they mean nothing.

You will remain as stupid tomorrow as you are today.

 

[Kirkrapine]

You have beaches one of the longest, wealthiest coastlines anywhere in the world and with all that wealth combined with a wealth in Silicon Valley and you still can't feed all of the poor people that you have imported.

They're eating, aren't they?

 

[Hal9000_]

Why waste money on a useless "wall"?

The real problem is overstayed work visas. We need a system to track these.

I wonder why certain interests would rather build a largely symbolic "wall", than tackle the actual problem?

Wouldn't have anything to do with cheap labor, would it?

 

[Klinkster]

Why waste money on a useless "wall"?

The real problem is overstayed work visas. We need a system to track these.

I wonder why certain interests would rather build a largely symbolic "wall", than tackle the actual problem?


Wouldn't have anything to do with cheap labor, would it?

Because a wall is not useless. It's not 'symbolic'.
It's a deterrent.
Walls work.
It slows 'em down....it stops many....oh hell....I said all this before, and so did others. Yuma, San Diego, Israel. You can't read....go back and try reading again. You only read what you want to, and that is only what agrees with your viewpoint.

So....I should not worry about the thousands of illegals coming into the country through the southern border, 2000 per day that are caught, because more are coming from other places?
That pard, is stupid logic. More like, a lack of logic.

And overstayed visas, are another problem, and something should be done about that too.
Different than what this thread is supposed to be about.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Why waste money on a useless "wall"?

The only rational thought behind that would be that the worst of the worst are the ones sneaking in.

That's where the worst abuses happen.

That's where the nastiest crime element exists.

The real problem is overstayed work visas. We need a system to track these.

Economically speaking yes....but those aren't the heroine/sex slaves/rapist coyotes either.

So which one is a bigger issue is kinda of a toss up for me...I think both issues need to be addressed.

I wonder why certain interests would rather build a largely symbolic "wall", than tackle the actual problem?

It's only symbolic if we walk away from it.

Otherwise it's no different than shutting your front door instead of leaving it hanging open.

Wouldn't have anything to do with cheap labor, would it?

If it was then clearly the (D)'s are the ones taking advantage.

 

[Januari]

Don't need any asshole. Logic would tell you the answer is obvious.

This is when punctuation really does matter. I'm sure you intended to call the person you were responding to an asshole; however, the way your post is worded, it reads like you don't need any asshole. If that statement as written IS accurate, it would explain the excrement coming from the other end. May I suggest that you reconsider whether you need an asshole?

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I have a friend who enjoys coming up with bizarre conspiracy theories. The conspiracy theory is that the wall is not truly being built to keep out alleged dangerous immigrants but to keep Americans IN later when the United States becomes more like a third world country. A bit of a bleak theory and definitely not one of the more amusing ones.

 

[Klinkster]

This is when punctuation really does matter. I'm sure you intended to call the person you were responding to an asshole; however, the way your post is worded, it reads like you don't need any asshole. If that statement as written IS accurate, it would explain the excrement coming from the other end. May I suggest that you reconsider whether you need an asshole?

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I have a friend who enjoys coming up with bizarre conspiracy theories. The conspiracy theory is that the wall is not truly being built to keep out alleged dangerous immigrants but to keep Americans IN later when the United States becomes more like a third world country. A bit of a bleak theory and definitely not one of the more amusing ones.

If I was to mark the spot, where your asshole is, it would be easy. You are all asshole.....so grab a Sharpie and go.


Punctuation good enough for ya?
If it's not, I really don't care.