Schumer's disrespectful behavior extends gov't shutdown

[Klinkster]

I literally laid out a plan that would help Americans more than the wall. ^^ up there ^^

Walls do not work and I already linked you to the facts about how a wall will also not work in America.

It's you who has nothing, son - including a wall

Of course. Us deplorable folks who have illegals trampin’ thru are yards don’t know anything.
We bow to your superior knowledge, even though you have never been here, and are as sharp as a bowlin’ ball.

 

[Klinkster]

Scotty.....beam me up.
There’s no intelligent life on this thread.

 

[Luk]

Of course. Us deplorable folks who have illegals trampin’ thru are yards don’t know anything.
We bow to your superior knowledge, even though you have never been here, and are as sharp as a bowlin’ ball.

Scotty.....beam me up.
There’s no intelligent life on this thread.

There was until you showed up and sucked the intelligence right out the muthafucka.

 

[Oblimo]

Of course. Us deplorable folks who have illegals trampin’ thru are yards don’t know anything.
We bow to your superior knowledge, even though you have never been here, and are as sharp as a bowlin’ ball.

If you've got migrants in your yard it sounds like you could use some better border defense in your area.

Can you describe the conditions of border security in your area? Is there already a fence? Are you living on incorporated land? How far are you from the nearest town?

 

[Klinkster]

There was until you showed up and sucked the intelligence right out the muthafucka.

It sure as hell didn’t come from you. A brain sucker would starve to death tryin’ to get a tap on your grey matter.

 

[Klinkster]

If you've got migrants in your yard it sounds like you could use some better border defense in your area.

Can you describe the conditions of border security in your area? Is there already a fence? Are you living on incorporated land? How far are you from the nearest town?

Not going to bother with you. You don’t give a damn. You don’t understand, and you sure as hell don’t know how to fix it.

 

[Oblimo]

Not going to bother with you. You don’t give a damn. You don’t understand, and you sure as hell don’t know how to fix it.

Nice presumptions you got there. Of course I care.

I am asking you to help me overcome my apparent ignorance. I have changed my mind quite a few times in my life when someone with a different point of view is willing to actually engage with me.

 

[Hal9000_]

All this division over a wall. Irony?

 

[Klinkster]

Nice presumptions you got there.

I am asking you to help me overcome my apparent ignorance.

Nope.
Done trying.

You have never been on the border. You don’t have a clue. And, your mind is closed.

 

[pointless]

Nice presumptions you got there.

I am asking you to help me overcome my apparent ignorance.

why should they bother? you already swallowed the hook.

 

[Luk]

Not going to bother with you. You don’t give a damn. You don’t understand, and you sure as hell don’t know how to fix it.

You've brought nothing to this conversation. Nada. Zero. Zip. Well, you did ascribe positions and say dumb shit so I *might* be wrong.

Lemme ask you a question: When the wall doesn't get built, what's your backup plan?

 

[Oblimo]

You have never been on the border.

I have but only at official crossings.

You don’t have a clue.

Then clue me in. You're just saying "walls work."

And, your mind is closed.

It's really, really not.

You're like a kid who is saying he's taking his football and going home without showing anyone whether or not he actually has a football.

 

[Oblimo]

why should they bother? you already swallowed the hook.

Hope springs eternal that they're not just trollbaiting.

Or, I'm a masochist.

 

[Hal9000_]

https://denelecampbell.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/trump-budget-pie-fy2018.png?w=500&h=359

Wouldn't it make sense to simply divert a small fraction of the overall military spending for border security?

Sure, a base or two overseas might have to be shuttered.

Priorities?

 

[Oblimo]

Aw, man, I totally screwed up. By a few decimal places.

Turns out Israel's border defense installation only took half a billion.

Dang nabbit. I thought the thing was an obscene expense, not a mere egregious expense.

EDIT: Although that could mean the 1.5B that was already agreed to by House and Senate might have been enough to build something useful.

 

[phrodeau]

https://denelecampbell.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/trump-budget-pie-fy2018.png?w=500&h=359

Wouldn't it make sense to simply divert a small fraction of the overall military spending for border security?

Sure, a base or two overseas might have to be shuttered.

Priorities?

Sure, five billion would just mean the military switches from pens to pencils.

 

[10NadNuder]

Well, let me introduce you to a concept called "comprehensive immigration reform." George W. Bush called for it in his SOTU address of 2007. It means changing the laws.

1] We want nothing Dumb-bya called for.

2] Worry about the laws after you change the President, preferably to:

A] Someone who actually won an election (neither Trump nor Dumb-bya did).
B] Someone who is not even potentially discussing changing Constitutional rules regarding citizenship.

 

[doowdniw]

If we have to have walls to protect our borders, when are we going to start on the one up north? Asking for a friend.

 

[10NadNuder]

If we have to have walls to protect our borders, when are we going to start on the one up north? Asking for a friend.

There is no reason to.

Trump's big issue with Mexico appeared early-on to be that they don't exactly send those of the highest character. Canada has no such people/problem.

Some American citizens have gotten lost, on foot, in Canada. They were ignored by some also-pedestrian Canadians, & helped by others going "above & beyond the call of duty". Something as simple as Customs should be able to tell one from the other, & not let the lower group pass.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Any fucking moron who voted for the giant orange ass in the WH. Is that clear enough?

You're not deplorable for where you live or how much money you make or how fucking stupid you are, but for the sole reason that you believed that jackass would make a fine President.

Just who are the deplorables?

Anyone who voted for trump, a la Billary stated?
Same as the ‘dregs of society’ as ol’ Biden said?
Maybe just the biter rural folks, that ‘cling to their guns and religon....’ like Obama said?

Just curious.

 

[RoryN]

Your a genius.

...

 

[10NadNuder]

Any fucking moron who voted for the giant orange ass in the WH. Is that clear enough?

You're not deplorable for where you live or how much money you make or how fucking stupid you are, but for the sole reason that you believed that jackass would make a fine President.

Who said anything about "fine President"?!

I, for one, learned in school there were certain requirements to be President. Not everyone would fit all of them, but far more would than ran in 2016.

I went to the polls, & I voted for someone for President that fit all requirements,... But I'd bet all the money Trump's ever had that nobody here could name who I voted for, b/c I felt that while HC would likely be a better President than DT, nobody who was a candidate on that ballot would be a good choice.

 

[BotanyBoy]

You keep ascribing that position to people who do not hold that position. It's a weak tactic and only proves that your case is even weaker.

Luk continues to pretend high level democrats along with at least some significant portion of their voters don't support open borders...even though they clearly do.

https://media.breitbart.com/media/2018/05/Screen-Shot-2018-05-07-at-8.04.19-PM-640x480.jpg


Luk also keeps pretending abolishing ICE, something many Democrats including himself explicitly support......is effectively opening our borders.


Luk can't and won't even go near the topic because he knows he has no case.

Pathetic as ever.

 

[phrodeau]

If we have to have walls to protect our borders, when are we going to start on the one up north? Asking for a friend.

It would spoil the view of the scenery.

The view on the southern border, not so much.

 

[Oblimo]

Yes they do. I gave you examples, and you, being as sharp as a bowling ball, not only refuse to believe it, but you refuse to research anything.

Alrighty then. Let's go through it.

San Diego barrier, is better than 90% effective. So is the one in Yuma. Wall in Israel....almost 100% effective. Hungary....99.9% effective.

We already talked about the Israeli border defense. I got the cost very wrong, but it's not a wall, it's an entire defensive system. I'm pretty sure Hungary is the same.

I hate to be a logomach, but you keep using the word "wall," so I keep hearing you are pushing for Trump's vision of, well, a thirty foot wall, now presently proposed to be comprised of steel pikes, running across the entire US-Mexico border. That's what I think is a bullshit waste of money. If you are meaning something other than that, please let me know.

Because, as you intimate, there is already a system of patrolled barriers on the US-Mexico border. Wikipedia says the barriers cover 580 miles of the over 1900 miles that comprise the border, mostly in Nex Mexico, Arizona, and California.

Can you agree on that?

There are barriers in urban areas of San Diego and El Paso area. (I've been to El Paso at the start of the 21st Century.)

These existing barriers have been effective, in that they funneled most border crossers into unpopulated regions of the Soronan dessert.

Can you agree on that?

You don’t care what the people who live along the border say.

I keep asking you to tell me what your conditions are like and you refuse to answer.

If I don't care, why do I ask?

See, as I understand it, strategic barrier placement coupled with patrols and drones would be more efficient and effective than lining the entire US-Mexico border, most of which is a river, with 30 foot high steel pikes. Am I wrong?

Please educate me, and stop projecting your own intractability onto me.