8 Dead, Several Others Shot At Pittsburgh Synagogue

[IG_88]

This is why that bitch isn't worth the time. She/he is an ignorant fruitcake with boring repetitive talking points.

Holy fuck irony alert!

 

[Luk]

This is why that bitch isn't worth the time. She/he is an ignorant fruitcake with boring repetitive talking points.

Your obvious lack of self awareness is obvious.

 

[Luk]

Holy fuck irony alert!

Dick.

 

[IG_88]

Dick.

That's what the bitches always want from me. I try to oblige.

 

[Oblimo]

This is why that bitch isn't worth the time. She/he is an ignorant fruitcake with boring repetitive talking points.

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Is that why you keeping replying to my posts without addressing any of my questions?

 

[Luk]

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Is that why you keeping replying to my posts without addressing any of my questions?

It's the cowardly way the old racist fuckknuckle has operated for over a decade.

 

[HisArpy]

The 1924 Republican National Convention, and what built up to it and came away from it.

Now, GOP leadership did not, and currently does not, solicit KKK support (well, apparently except for the Goldwater and Nixon campgains via their Ratfuckers). But for nearly a century the KKK has wanted to be a mainstream component of the GOP.

Edit: BB, I have you on iggy and only peek at your posts when I feel a disturbance in the Farce. Calm your tits.

And, for nearly a century, they haven't succeeded in their attempts. What do you think that says about the Republican party and its members?

All of this is thread drift anyway.

Question: Did you watch the Trump Rally where he mentioned that the shooter had been caught and is in custody?

Did you see/hear the audience response?

I thought it was amazing.

 

[IG_88]

Vette is so terrified of the world he lives in. It's sad and funny both. He will die miserable, scared and probably alone.

 

[beew]

Did Anti-Semitic BDS Rhetoric aided by ALL COLLEGE CAMPUSUS and DUMZ Trigger the Synagogue Shooter?

I read some of the things that he said and. What a cacophony of ideas...

A mishmash of the anti-Semitic rhetoric promoted by the extreme Left, and the anti-minorities rhetoric promoted by the extreme Right.
He obviously had a low-iish Q.

In saying that, the things promoted by the extreme right were dominant.

 

[Sean]

Meanwhile, Fox is broadcasting anti-semitic bullshit from the Judicial Watch dude that reads like it came from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

 

[Oblimo]

And, for nearly a century, they haven't succeeded in their attempts. What do you think that says about the Republican party and its members?

That they resisted their lunatic fringe, an unequivocally good thing.

Trump sees any vote from any source for him as a good thing, McConnell is a total end-justify-means mercenary, and Graham has been acting like he lost his moral center when McCain died.

All of this is thread drift anyway.

Question: Did you watch the Trump Rally where he mentioned that the shooter had been caught and is in custody?

Only snippets. I am presently royally pissed at his comments about armed guards in synagogues, so I am ever less tolerant of his speechifying than I usually am

Did you see/hear the audience response?

I thought it was amazing.

They then then went back to responding to his same old routine with fervent enthusaism.

 

[Boxlicker101]

The 1924 Republican National Convention, and what built up to it and came away from it.

Now, GOP leadership did not, and currently does not, solicit KKK support (well, apparently except for the Goldwater and Nixon campgains via their Ratfuckers). But for nearly a century the KKK has wanted to be a mainstream component of the GOP.

Edit: BB, I have you on iggy and only peek at your posts when I feel a disturbance in the Farce. Calm your tits.

That's ridiculous. In 1918, which was a century ago, The Dems. were dominant in the South, and the KKK were almost all members of that party. By 1968, the KKK formed what was essentially their own party, The American Independent Party, led by George Wallace, the former Dem. governor of GA. Currently, no major party is going to solicit the support of the KKK, because of all the baggage they have collected over the years.

Even as late as 1988, David Duke was running for president as a Dem. and in the 1990's, prominent Dems, such as Hillary Clinton were speaking glowingly of KKK leaders and former leaders.

 

[IG_88]

That's ridiculous. In 1918, which was a century ago, The Dems. were dominant in the South, and the KKK were almost all members of that party. By 1968, the KKK formed what was essentially their own party, The American Independent Party, led by George Wallace, the former Dem. governor of GA. Currently, no major party is going to solicit the support of the KKK, because of all the baggage collected over the years.

jeebus

 

[Kirkrapine]

What definition of socialism are you using? Because that's NOT what socialism is.

I was thinking of the Marxist-Leninist revolutionary version. Of course, the left-Nazi Strasserists would have disdained the comparison, Marx being a Jew; they equated the Jews with the capitalists (even though there were few Jewish capitalists above the retail level).

Capitalist couldn't because then they wouldn't be capitalist.

Capitalists have never been above using force when it was available. Ask anyone in Central America or the Caribbean, and don't try to tell me United Fruit was not True Capitalism. For that matter, ask any American labor union that ever had to deal with the Pinkertons.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Why? Because it goes against the leftist narrative that socialist can't be a bunch of imperial dick heads shoving their brand of equality down everyone's throat?

In Nazi Germany the means of production and distribution of goods and services were either owned outright or highly controlled/administered by the state (collective).

They were DEFINITIVELY socialists and being nationalistic in the process doesn't make that go away.

See Economy of Nazi Germany. See also Orwell's The Lion and the Unicorn:

But what then is Fascism?

Fascism, at any rate the German version, is a form of capitalism that borrows from Socialism just such features as will make it efficient for war purposes. Internally, Germany has a good deal in common with a Socialist state. Ownership has never been abolished, there are still capitalists and workers, and – this is the important point, and the real reason why rich men all over the world tend to sympathize with Fascism – generally speaking the same people are capitalists and the same people workers as before the Nazi revolution. But at the same time the State, which is simply the Nazi Party, is in control of everything. It controls investment, raw materials, rates of interest, working hours, wages. The factory owner still owns his factory, but he is for practical purposes reduced to the status of a manager. Everyone is in effect a State employee, though the salaries vary very greatly. The mere efficiency of such a system, the elimination of waste and obstruction, is obvious. In seven years it has built up the most powerful war machine the world has ever seen.

But the idea underlying Fascism is irreconcilably different from that which underlies Socialism. Socialism aims, ultimately, at a world-state of free and equal human beings. It takes the equality of human rights for granted. Nazism assumes just the opposite. The driving force behind the Nazi movement is the belief in human inequality, the superiority of Germans to all other races, the right of Germany to rule the world. Outside the German Reich it does not recognize any obligations. Eminent Nazi professors have ‘proved’ over and over again that only nordic man is fully human, have even mooted the idea that non-nordic peoples (such as ourselves) can interbreed with gorillas! Therefore, while a species of war-Socialism exists within the German state, its attitude towards conquered nations is frankly that of an exploiter. The function of the Czechs, Poles, French, etc. is simply to produce such goods as Germany may need, and get in return just as little as will keep them from open rebellion. If we are conquered, our job will probably be to manufacture weapons for Hitler's forthcoming wars with Russia and America. The Nazis aim, in effect, at setting up a kind of caste system, with four main castes corresponding rather closely to those of the Hindu religion. At the top comes the Nazi party, second come the mass of the German people, third come the conquered European populations. Fourth and last are to come the coloured peoples, the ‘semi-apes’ as Hitler calls them, who are to be reduced quite openly to slavery.

However horrible this system may seem to us, it works. It works because it is a planned system geared to a definite purpose, world-conquest, and not allowing any private interest, either of capitalist or worker, to stand in its way. British capitalism does not work, because it is a competitive system in which private profit is and must be the main objective. It is a system in which all the forces are pulling in opposite directions and the interests of the individual are as often as not totally opposed to those of the State.

 

[BotanyBoy]

See

Fascism, at any rate the German version, is a form of capitalism that borrows from Socialism just such features as will make it efficient for war purposes.

Yea and those features are what defines socialism and are the opposite of what defines capitalism, it wasn't capitalism. Government control, ownership and or administration over the means of production and distribution of goods and services will NEVER be capitalism nor capitalistic no matter how badly you and all the other socialist of every variety want to pretend otherwise.


Fascism and socialism are essentially the same thing in application....the only difference being that fascism is for hierarchical/nationalistic purposes instead of collectivists/egalitarian ones.

That's why Stalin and Hitler, despite some key differences, don't really look all that different.

 

[Oblimo]

That's ridiculous.

What’s ridiculous?

I presume you know what happened during the 1924 convention. As I remember, it was the first attempt of the KKK to ingratiate itself with Republicans.

I’m not saying the GOP is the party of the KKK; it’s not. What I’m saying is the Democrats aren’t the party of the KKK, despite DeSousan revisitionist bullshit. The 1924 Republican convention demonstrates that the KKK hasn’t wed itself to the Democrats in almost a hundred years.

It’s the DeSousans who are suggesting that if the KKK isn’t Republican it must be Democratic, or vice versa. Neither party has wanted those bastards for quite some time.

What troubles me about Trump isn’t that he’s a crypto-Nazi; I don’t think he is. It is my impression of the man and his words that he is willing to court any source of approval/votes, including the white supremacist vote, which inarguably was a significant fringe of the coaliton he assembled to destroy the GOP in the 2016 campaign.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Well, the Klan is not what it was. AIUI, nowadays even most white nationalists regard the Klan as silly and dated.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Yea and those features are what defines socialism and are the opposite of what defines capitalism, it wasn't capitalism. Government control, ownership and or administration over the means of production and distribution of goods and services will NEVER be capitalism nor capitalistic no matter how badly you and all the other socialist of every variety want to pretend otherwise.

State capitalism is still capitalism, no matter how much you want to pretend otherwise.

You know what isn't capitalism? The Spanish Revolution of 1936.

Fascism and socialism are essentially the same thing in application....the only difference being that fascism is for hierarchical/nationalistic purposes instead of collectivists/egalitarian ones.

Well, that's a pretty big difference, isn't it?

 

[Oblimo]

Well, the Klan is not what it was. AIUI, nowadays even most white nationalists regard the Klan as silly and dated.

Yup. I’m more concerned about agitators like the Proud Boys and lone wolf wackadoos.

 

[BotanyBoy]

State capitalism is still capitalism, no matter how much you want to pretend otherwise.

No, State capitalism is a contradiction in terms that only exist for authoritarian (socialist/fascist) states.

Well, that's a pretty big difference, isn't it?

Ideologically.

In the real world the millions slaved to death or just exterminated for convenience wouldn't be able to tell you any difference from inside their death camps Nazi or Soviet.

Authoritarianism is still authoritarianism, end results are the same regardless of how you justify it.

 

[Luk]

Yup. I’m more concerned about agitators like the Proud Boys and lone wolf wackadoos.

Completely agree. One thing that is comforting is that many of the cowards here who exude the alt-right bravado are just basement dwelling little whiners who will never do a gottdamn thing in the real world. They are far more cowardly than the cowards currently spreading terror with the empowerment of the leaders of this country.

 

[Kirkrapine]

In the real world the millions slaved to death or just exterminated for convenience wouldn't be able to tell you any difference from inside their death camps Nazi or Soviet.

There was a difference: When the Germans invaded the USSR, many welcomed them as liberators from Stalin's tyranny. They soon learned that for anyone not of German blood, Hitler's tyranny was even worse. Stalin saw them as tools to use, but Hitler saw them as vermin to exterminate.

 

[Oblimo]

Completely agree. One thing that is comforting is that many of the cowards here who exude the alt-right bravado are just basement dwelling little whiners who will never do a gottdamn thing in the real world. They are far more cowardly than the cowards currently spreading terror with the empowerment of the leaders of this country.

Beware the revolutionary threshold. Even the most cowardly, chicken-tendies-loving basement dweller has one.

 

[BotanyBoy]

There was a difference

Yea, the socialist body count is WAY higher than the fascist one.

WAY WAY WAY WAY higher by tens of millions.

Are you sure you're not a college professor? Because you shill for mass murdering socialist like one....

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When the Germans invaded the USSR, many welcomed them as liberators from Stalin's tyranny. They soon learned that for anyone not of German blood, Hitler's tyranny was even worse. Stalin saw them as tools to use, but Hitler saw them as vermin to exterminate.

Oh yes, the socialist spin on how much better mass famine, cannibalism and death camps are under socialism than fascism.

Tell us comrade, can you quantify how much better eating your kids and being slaved to death under socialism is than fascism?