Ganging up on Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein

[gotsnowgotslush]

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein harassed by Jeff Sessions and Ohio's Rep. Jim Jordan


The Freedom Caucus may be a pain in the arse, but at least one member is Trump's sock puppet.

Jordan, Freedom Caucus Asshat Extraoridinaire, kept filibustering and interrupting whenever Rosenstein tried to answer his questions, and at one point the gallery burst out and laughed at his antics.

https://crooksandliars.com/2018/06/rod-rosenstein-has-gallery-start-laughing


June 28, 2018

Donald Trump’s allies in the House GOP decided to put on a dog and pony show today by hauling in Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray, and grilling them about the imaginary conspiracies that only exist in Donald Trump’s head.
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Bill Palmer

http://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/fear-rosenstein-rod-trump/11095/

"As part of their coordinated and determined effort to undermine the special counsel’s investigation, Republicans are requesting documents they know they cannot have,” Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY) said during his opening statement. “If they somehow find themselves in possession of sensitive documents that go to the core of the special counsel’s investigation, and if past practice holds, those documents will end up in the possession of the subject of the investigation — namely President Trump — and shortly thereafter on Fox News."


https://thinkprogress.org/jim-jordan-rod-rosenstein-mueller-trump-clinton-838303eab9e1/


FOX TV Info-tainment star, "Ohio Jim" Jordan has plenty of photo-op footage, and plenty of lies, to keep FOX fans entertained on Trump's favorite show. FOX TV nurtured a personal friend and advisor for Trump. Wait...did Rupert Murdoch give Trump that bedtime teddy bear ? oh fuck


Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) used his allotted time to show Trump and his constituents that he, too, could throw a tantrum about Mueller’s investigation. He accused Rosenstein of withholding information from Congress and failing to comply with congressional subpoenas.

“Sir, I certainly hope that your colleagues are not under that impression. That is not accurate,” Rosenstein responded before Jordan interrupted.

Rep. Eric Salwell (D-Calif.) called on Jordan to allow Rosenstein to respond, but Jordan carried on with his unsubstantiated accusations.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...diciary-committee_us_5b3503c3e4b0cb5605206a8a


The Other Side of Alice in Wonderland's Looking Glass does not need facts, proof, evidence, film footage, voice recordings, written records, to back up their claims.

Lies constructed out of thin air have as much weight, over on The Other side.


CSPAN
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@cspan
Rep. @Jim_Jordan: "Did you threaten to subpoena their calls and emails?"

Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein: "No sir, and there's no way to subpoena phone calls."

Jordan: "I'm reading what the press said."

Rosenstein: "I would suggest that you not rely on what the press said."

12:32 PM - Jun 28, 2018

 

[KeithD]

Sessions and Jordan? Don't you mean Gowdy and Jordan?

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Ugly and stupid attempt by Trey Gowdy to frame the investigation as something harmful, when in reality, what was done by Trump and company has done real harm-

"This country is being hurt by it. We are being divided," Rep. Trey Gowdy


https://www.sfgate.com/news/politic...-face-angry-House-Republicans-in-13033859.php

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-p...n-hating-trey-gowdy-over-coals-saying-mueller

 

[KeithD]

Again, you posted Sessions. Cite a source on Sessions harassing Rosenstein, please.

 

[FEELINGLUCKYPUNK]

LOW IQ MAD MAX is the source.

 

[Wrong Element]

Does anybody know why Gowdy showed up for that hearing yesterday looking so disheveled? Other than Jim Traficant in his glory days, I have never seen a congressman in any sort of official setting looking more like he had slept overnight on a park bench.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

dammit

The bit that included Jeff Sessions, had nothing to do with harassing Rosenstein.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Then, again, anyone could see why Jeff Sessions recused himself.


https://investigaterussia.org/players/jeff-sessions

 

[Adre]

They have little else to do, it’s not like they’re writing and passing any noteworthy legislation.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

A bit of trouble brewing ?

 

[Rightguide]

Ugly and stupid attempt by Trey Gowdy to frame the investigation as something harmful, when in reality, what was done by Trump and company has done real harm-

"This country is being hurt by it. We are being divided," Rep. Trey Gowdy


https://www.sfgate.com/news/politic...-face-angry-House-Republicans-in-13033859.php

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-p...n-hating-trey-gowdy-over-coals-saying-mueller

You can't be this friggin' stupid.

 

[Kirkrapine]

If Rosenstein is fired, go here.

 

[Kirkrapine]

You can't be this friggin' stupid.

You don't have to be stupid -- nor, for that matter, does it even help -- to understand the very real and valuable importance of Mueller's investigation.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

gsgs comment-

If there is one thing that is hard to ignore, is that what appears to be foolish, crazy, and grotesque "puppet shows" of the Republican party, to the casual eye, is an actual very serious intent, at work.

Time, after time, the Republican party creates a sliver of justifiability, out of what is laughable, dishonest, and threatening.
/end gsgs comment

SEPT 24, 2018

The brilliant manner in which the administration has undermined Rod Rosenstein’s position is only the latest example of what political scientists call authoritarian learning. It is possible that the deputy attorney general really did act foolishly, seriously discussing the possibilities of wearing a wire to incriminate the president, of removing him from office by invoking the 25th Amendment. It seems rather more likely that he made those comments in a sarcastic manner—and that the administration leaked his alleged remarks to the New York Times to create a sliver of justifiability if it should decide to oust him.

Trump does eventually get rid of Rosenstein, the same is likely to happen to Mueller

(read more, at THE GOOD FIGHT

The Rosenstein Line

The deputy attorney general is keeping his job for now, but our democratic institutions aren’t looking so healthy

By YASCHA MOUNK

SEPT 24, 2018 4:11 PM)



https://slate.com/news-and-politics...attorney-general-trump-hostile-democracy.html



Either way, it would be a mistake to zero in on the question of whether or not Rosenstein really was culpable of wrongdoing. For while we likely won’t know the answer to that for a long time to come, one thing is already obvious: The president’s blatant hostility to the separation of powers has created a situation in which the nation’s trust in the rule of law, already seriously damaged, depends on the job of one single individual.


From the perspective of Russia, Turkey, or Venezuela, this all looks spookily familiar. All serious political scientists agree that democratically elected leaders have, over a period of five or 10 or 15 years, destroyed those countries’ democratic institutions. But if you asked them about the particular moment in which Vladimir Putin (or Recep Tayyip Erdogan or Hugo Chavez) first became a dictator, they would likely give wildly differing answers. If Trump should actually manage to destroy the rule of the law in the United States, there is no reason to think the moment in which he succeeds will be any more obvious. Not in retrospect—and even less so at the time.

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[gotsnowgotslush]

Rosenstein was summoned to the White House on Monday. Though he and everyone else expected a summary termination, according to the New York Times, Rosenstein didn’t get the axe... yet. But the White House alarm system did go off during a CBS News segment on his trip there, beginning to blare loudly even as reporter Ed O’Keefe finished saying “it would seem that all status is normal.”

THIS IS ONLY A TEST,” a voice on the intercom blared, as the alarms went off in a bizarre series of high-pitched tones.


Ed O'Keefe
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@edokeefe
WATCH: A metaphoric moment at the White House today: As @vladduthiersCBS @AMGreenCBS @PaulaReidCBS @CHueyBurns and I were discussing a false alarm shakeup at the Justice Department, they tested the alert system on the White House grounds. It was only a test. All of it.

5:37 PM - Sep 24, 2018 · The White House

https://gizmodo.com/white-house-alarm-system-starts-blaring-during-news-seg-1829285123

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

The New York Times published a bombshell story reporting that in May of 2017 Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein suggested that he and people interviewing for the job of FBI director should "wear a wire" to record the utterances of President Trump. He allegedly discussed rounding up members of the Cabinet to see if they were willing to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove Trump from office. Rosenstein immediately denied this, also saying that he does not believe the president is subject to the 25th Amendment. Some sources in the Justice Department have subsequently said that Rosenstein was just being sarcastic about the wire.


Nobody knows who leaked this story to the Times.

https://www.salon.com/2018/09/25/de...tion-from-kavanaugh-or-part-of-a-larger-plot/


9/21/2018

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/us/politics/rod-rosenstein-wear-wire-25th-amendment.html

Rod J. Rosenstein is to have said this, Spring of last year.

"Well, what do you want me to do, Andy, wear a wire?" the deputy attorney general asked FBI official Andrew McCabe at a meeting last year.

Sep.21.2018


May, 16, 2017 meeting at a secure facility at the Justice Department — one week after Trump fired FBI Director James Comey — Rosenstein was arguing with Andrew McCabe, then the acting director of the FBI, about the president, according to a senior Justice Department official.

"Well, what do you want me to do, Andy, wear a wire?" Rosenstein asked at the meeting, which also included FBI lawyer Lisa Page and four career DOJ officials, according to the senior official. One of the career civil servants was Scott Schools, who would later go on to sign off on the firing of McCabe, the official said.

This official and a source who was in the room characterized Rosenstein's remark as sarcastic.

The senior official further said that the reference to invoking the Constitution to remove Trump comes from a post-meeting memo written by McCabe that said the deputy attorney general "raises 25th amendment" and that Page's notes from the same meeting do not contain any similar note.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...-secretly-recording-trump-say-sources-n911981

Trump turned on Rosenstein after the deputy attorney general appointed a special counsel to oversee the Trump-Russia probe a little more than a week after Comey’s firing. Rosenstein appointed Mueller on May 17, 2017, the day after a meeting in which he reportedly discussed recording Trump.

Since then, Trump has been desperate to get rid of Mueller, whose special counsel team has secured several guilty pleas from former Trump advisers and turned some of them into cooperating witnesses.

Rosenstein has become an easy target for Trump and his allies, who have twisted his words before. In July, House Republicans threatened Rosenstein with impeachment and even accused him of threatening a staffer (though the actual story, unsurprisingly, wasn’t as nefarious as they’d claimed). Eventually Rosenstein appeared to tire of the attacks. In a May speech, he announced that the Justice Department “is not going to get extorted” — a remark that appeared to be aimed at House Republicans.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...ord-trump-mueller_us_5ba538e5e4b069d5f9d2a702


What is the context ?

Cheeto-lini was throwing accusations about "wiretapping"

Cheeto-lini was howling about wiretapping, listening devices (bugs), and spying via modern (2017) portable phones. A good deal of re-decorating, and reconstruction was done to the former Obama White House, once Trump moved in.

Did Putin and his Russians tell the new Trump Spite House what to look for ?


Kellyanne Conway, speaking for the Alice in Wonderland's Looking Glass ministry of Truth According to the Extremist Right Wing Republicans, instructs Americans to nurse and nurture their paranoia about modern household appliances

First, let's take Conway's assertion literally. Microwaves (the waves) can be used for certain types of imaging, as in radar, but a microwave oven can't be used as a camera unless it literally has an outward-facing webcam onboard. No such microwave appears to exist. That's in contrast to the case of the spying Samsung TVs, referenced by Conway, that each come with a built-in, internet-connected microphone.

But what if we were to take Conway not literally, but seriously? Asked whether a microwave could be turned into not a camera, specifically, but a listening device, Stephen Frasier, a microwave imaging and radar researcher at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst, let out several seconds of sustained laughter.

"Unless it’s a voice-activated microwave oven connected to the internet I can’t think of a way," says Frasier.


March 13, 2017

https://www.wired.com/2017/03/kellyanne-conway-microwave-spying/

Mar 14, 2017 · Sean Spicer said that President Trump's unsubstantiated claims (about wiretapping ?) weren't meant to be taken literally.

gsgs comment- Trump's habit of failing to be precise with his choice of words, using words that are not accurate, and making bullshit claims, with nothing to back it up, left many people un-able to decipher exactly WTF Trump is talking about.
/end gsgs comment


20 March 2017

FBI Director James Comey for the first time on Monday confirmed to the House Intelligence Committee that the agency is investigating possible links between Russia and Mr Trump's associates as part of a broader inquiry into Moscow's interference in last year's election.

He also disputed Mr Trump's wiretapping claims.


"With respect to the president's tweets about alleged wiretapping directed at him by the prior administration, I have no information that supports those tweets, and we have looked carefully inside the FBI," he told the panel.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39172635

September 22, 2017

2017
“Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my ‘wires tapped’ in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!”

“How low has President Obama gone to tapp [sic] my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!”
–President Trump, tweets, March 4, 2017

In March 2017, President Trump earned Four Pinocchios for relying on sketchy media reports to claim that former president Barack Obama wiretapped Trump Tower, his 2016 campaign headquarters. Then, on Sept. 19, CNN reported that the U.S. government wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. Trump’s supporters claimed he was vindicated (#TrumpVindicated trended on Twitter), and several readers asked us to revisit our Four Pinocchio

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...y-obama/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.effaa7cb46d4

 

[Rightguide]

You don't have to be stupid -- nor, for that matter, does it even help -- to understand the very real and valuable importance of Mueller's investigation.

You are too ignorant to be commenting on it.

 

[Kirkrapine]

Again, you posted Sessions. Cite a source on Sessions harassing Rosenstein, please.

Well, not so much harassing as pestering -- offering three wishes if he'll drop the investigation, that sort of thing.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

SEPTEMBER 21, 2018

The Times report was based on the accounts of unidentified officials who described Rosenstein’s comments and “on memos written by F.B.I. officials, including Andrew McCabe, then the acting bureau director, that documented Mr. Rosenstein’s actions and comments.” McCabe was fired earlier this year. Though an inspector general’s report faulted him for misrepresenting his actions in authorizing the release of information to the media, his firing came amid pressure by President Trump for McCabe’s ouster over his role in the bureau’s decision to launch an investigation into Trump’s Russia ties.

In a statement Friday, a lawyer for McCabe said his client “drafted memos to memorialize significant discussions he had with high level officials and preserved them so he would have an accurate, contemporaneous record of those discussions. When he was interviewed by the Special Counsel more than a year ago, he gave all of his memos—classified and unclassified— to the Special Counsel’s office. A set of those memos remained at the FBI at the time of his departure in late January 2018. He has no knowledge of how any member of the media obtained those memos.”

https://www.motherjones.com/politic...ing-trump-ousting-him-via-the-25th-amendment/

 

[Kirkrapine]

Does anybody know why Gowdy showed up for that hearing yesterday looking so disheveled?

Let's just say Kavanaugh isn't the only one with a secret life.

 

[KeithD]

Did I miss anything? I thought something was supposed to happen, last Thursday? I haven't seen anything yet.

Trump "postponed" his meeting with Rosenstein for Thursday because he wanted to watch the Ford-Kavanaugh testimony. I certainly hope Trump had to watch the whole thing.