Why didn't Trump release all JFK files like he promised?

[EternalFantasies]

Wanna know what's the better question yet?

Why he postponed it till 2021.

Trump delays full release of some JFK assassination files until 2021, bowing to national security concerns

President Trump vowed last year to release all the long-secret files related to the JFK assassination, but the administration announced Thursday that some documents will remain redacted until October 2021 for national security reasons.

In a White House memo, Trump said that the nation’s intelligence community persuaded him to keep some parts of documents secret because their exposure could harm “identifiable national security, law enforcement, and foreign affairs concerns.”
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Trump, who once suggested Sen. Ted Cruz’s father played a role in the assassination, had promised to release the entirety of the 5 million pages of records, most of which have been available since the late 1990s.

More here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...oncerns/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.61d874491a6f

 

[ThatsTheGuy]

Good question. Maybe he found something he thought we shouldn't know. We been waiting 50 yrs and no one thought we'd still be this concerned.

Maybe the movie about Ted Kennedy and that woman who drowned in the 'car accident' will shed some light on this.

 

[colddiesel]

1 Because the next President will have to deal with it.

2 Because it will prove Russian Collusion.

3 Ted Cruz can be beatified.

 

[WoundedKnee]

I do not know and I do not really care. That affects my life as much as Stormy Daniels.

Would releasing those files feed one hungry child?

 

[Admiral_Ackbar]

And when everything says Oswald did it alone nothing will change. It's the assassination equivalent of Obama's birth certificate.

 

[Taint_mAnn]

I do not know and I do not really care. That affects my life as much as Stormy Daniels.

Would releasing those files feed one hungry child?

If it did I'm sure you'd be against their release.

 

[Wrong Element]

What I don't understand is postponing the release a mere three and a half years. I can't imagine there's a lingering national security concern from the height of the Cold War that will be magically cleared up between now and the fall of 2021.

 

[ThatsTheGuy]

If it did I'm sure you'd be against their release.

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[HisArpy]

What I don't understand is postponing the release a mere three and a half years. I can't imagine there's a lingering national security concern from the height of the Cold War that will be magically cleared up between now and the fall of 2021.

Unless the North Koreans did it...

 

[Colonel Hogan]

What I don't understand is postponing the release a mere three and a half years. I can't imagine there's a lingering national security concern from the height of the Cold War that will be magically cleared up between now and the fall of 2021.

Highly unlikely, but at least by kicking the can down the road you set up the routine of periodically examining the issue every few years.

Unfortunately, people view this continued national security classification as something that materially addresses the issue of who or how the assassination was carried out. In all likelihood, it does not. Far more likely is that it impacts still current intelligence programs and methods that could be compromised if the information was revealed. It probably doesn't have a damn thing to do with the actual Kennedy assassination.

 

[HisArpy]

Highly unlikely, but at least by kicking the can down the road you set up the routine of periodically examining the issue every few years.

Unfortunately, people view this continued national security classification as something that materially addresses the issue of who or how the assassination was carried out. In all likelihood, it does not. Far more likely is that it impacts still current intelligence programs and methods that could be compromised if the information was revealed. It probably doesn't have a damn thing to do with the actual Kennedy assassination.

Or the North Koreans did it.

 

[EternalFantasies]

What I don't understand is postponing the release a mere three and a half years. I can't imagine there's a lingering national security concern from the height of the Cold War that will be magically cleared up between now and the fall of 2021.

Coz.. err..hmmm.. well, coz maybe a war is imminent, after which it would no longer matter to release such info.

Or it's to get ppl to elect him in 2020.

U pick

 

[Taint_mAnn]

What I don't understand is postponing the release a mere three and a half years. I can't imagine there's a lingering national security concern from the height of the Cold War that will be magically cleared up between now and the fall of 2021.

Trumps Russian buddies are in those files.

 

[jaF0]

In a White House memo, Trump said that the nation’s intelligence community persuaded him to keep some parts of documents secret because their exposure could harm “identifiable national security, law enforcement, and foreign affairs concerns.”
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Trump, who once suggested Sen. Ted Cruz’s father played a role in the assassination, had promised to release the entirety of the 5 million pages of records, most of which have been available since the late 1990s.

What I don't understand is postponing the release a mere three and a half years. I can't imagine there's a lingering national security concern from the height of the Cold War that will be magically cleared up between now and the fall of 2021.

Sounds to me like somebody who is still alive could be culpable and subject to prosecution, maybe for murder (as in Lee didn't do it, at least not alone). If so, whoever it is may be expected to expire naturally in the next few years. If they don't, the can gets kicked further down the road.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Sounds to me like somebody who is still alive could be culpable and subject to prosecution, maybe for murder (as in Lee didn't do it, at least not alone). If so, whoever it is may be expected to expire naturally in the next few years. If they don't, the can gets kicked further down the road.

Still alive??? Are you nuts??? If the theoretical villain you envision had been the same age as Oswald at the time of the assassination he would be 79 now and long retired from any intelligence agency.

Far more to the point, however, what would compel the last seven or eight CIA directors of widely divergent political administrations, both Democrat and Republican, to protect a murderer within or without their ranks when they could so easily have smeared the opposition with having provided that very protection for so many years in the past? Assuming the key to the Kennedy assassination lies simply in the declassification of one or more classified documents, are you trying to tell me that every administration since LBJ's has resisted wearing the mantle of national hero that would come with having "solved" this case?

No. Just.......no.

 

[jaF0]

It tells me that the order came from very high up and all this is as much about protecting an office (who knows which office) as it is about protecting the person holding the office at the time. Maybe the VP? SoS?


Apparently even Jackie thought Johnson was behind it. Backed by other Texans. And Texans still wield a lot of power in DC to cover something like this up.

 

[EternalFantasies]

Sounds to me like somebody who is still alive could be culpable and subject to prosecution, maybe for murder (as in Lee didn't do it, at least not alone). If so, whoever it is may be expected to expire naturally in the next few years. If they don't, the can gets kicked further down the road.

It can be; it can also be that certain positions and strategies might compromise current processes should the become known.

Remember the JFK thingy had a variety of angles on both a local and world level.


Bit either way, it does have an inside job stench that one even if they suspect Oswald alone did it, can't escape considering that option too.

 

[beew]

Highly unlikely, but at least by kicking the can down the road you set up the routine of periodically examining the issue every few years.

Unfortunately, people view this continued national security classification as something that materially addresses the issue of who or how the assassination was carried out. In all likelihood, it does not. Far more likely is that it impacts still current intelligence programs and methods that could be compromised if the information was revealed. It probably doesn't have a damn thing to do with the actual Kennedy assassination.

Fascinating stuff.

Interesting that M.L.King and Robert Kennedy were also killed by two so-called 'lone wolves' within two months of each other, and at around the time that they were both about to be a sore spot for the existing structures.

 

[WoundedKnee]

It was a time of great unrest and upheaval and that is the simple explanation. Many felt alienated and under attack, so they lashed out in so many ways. A conspiracy is just to hard to keep. As Machiavelli points out, a conspiracy is a group of malcontents each of whom have the ability to be contented by disclosure (and I think that is very much the point Col. Hogan just made).

The man who prosecuted Charlie Manson, Vincent Bugliosi, has written the paragon of talking down the JFK conspiracy theories in his book Reclaiming History: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy. It is a masterful treatment of the subject that only a master of investigation and prosecution could have probably done justice to. If you read that book and come away still thinking that there had to be something else, well, then...,



Mama always said, if you can't say something nice, stay quiet.

 

[beew]

It was a time of great unrest and upheaval and that is the simple explanation. Many felt alienated and under attack, so they lashed out in so many ways. A conspiracy is just to hard to keep. As Machiavelli points out, a conspiracy is a group of malcontents each of whom have the ability to be contented by disclosure (and I think that is very much the point Col. Hogan just made).

The man who prosecuted Charlie Manson, Vincent Bugliosi, has written the paragon of talking down the JFK conspiracy theories in his book Reclaiming History: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy. It is a masterful treatment of the subject that only a master of investigation and prosecution could have probably done justice to. If you read that book and come away still thinking that there had to be something else, well, then...,



Mama always said, if you can't say something nice, stay quiet.

You have a point here, and indeed the evidence isn't entirely clear as far as JFK and MLKing were concerned.

But when it comes to Robert Kennedy, I read that:

1. The coroner claimed that the fatal shots came from behind, whereas most of the other wounds came from adifferent angle, thus introducing the theory of a second gunman. Only one witness claimed that RK changed his posture during the shooting.

2. An audio recording clearly pointed to 11 shots, whereas Sirhan's gun only had 9 slots.

 

[WoundedKnee]

Don't know. Wish I cared, but it has never risen to the level of JFK's "mythology."
I still vaguely remember the footage of the shooting and I think he was in a crowd, so additional guns would most likely have been spotted. I think the case was so clean-cut and open and shut, that that was the real reason why no conspiracy theory developed. Additionally, the shooter lived, so there was the opportunity for extensive follow-up as to his motives and methods.

 

[richard_daily]

The CIA was culpable in the JFK assassination.

I don't believe they orchestrated the hit, but they definitely covered up their contact and knowledge of his actions in Mexico City.

That's why they don't want the information released, because it makes them look like anti-american liars.