Trump must beware the Cohen trap

[TalkRadio]

The image of FBI agents carting away computers and records of Michael Cohen, President Trump’s personal lawyer, is just the latest cringeworthy moment from the life and times of the attorney. Few would be surprised by Cohen being criminally charged. However, Cohen’s greatest danger to Trump may be not as a defendant but as bait.

Consider the curious aspect of this referral: A year ago, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had no problem with expanding Robert Mueller’s mandate to allow him to investigate and order a “no-knock raid” on former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort. Those crimes were far removed from the original purpose of the special counsel investigation, and included business transactions linked to his work in Ukraine and conduct years before the election.

As I have previously written, Mueller does not appear to have a compelling criminal case against Trump for collusion with the Russians. Indeed, Trump remains a “subject,” not a target, an unchanged status after more than a year of investigation and multiple cooperative witnesses. If Trump simply stays where he is, under cover, he could well run out this investigation without a charge. But that depends on him staying there.

Cohen now could be looking at serious criminal exposure and, if charged with campaign-finance and fraud violations, only two men will be able to deliver him from the quagmire of his own making: Trump and Mueller. The president could ultimately pardon Cohen, while the special counsel could give him a deal. Some at the Justice Department may be counting on Trump’s aggressive tendencies to do the rest. In running to Cohen’s rescue, the president could easily find himself the prize rather than the predator in this conflict.

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/382411-trump-must-beware-the-cohen-trap

 

[Rightguide]

The President should refuse to talk to Mueller about anything other than defined criminal behavior in regard to the Russian collusion mandate he was charged to investigate. If he talks to Mueller he should refuse to answer any question that goes to his motives in executing his constitutional authority.

 

[Amoebah]

The President should refuse to talk to Mueller about anything other than defined criminal behavior in regard to the Russian collusion mandate he was charged to investigate. If he talks to Mueller he should refuse to answer any question that goes to his motives in executing his constitutional authority.

https://mediamythalert.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/nixon-resigns_1974.jpg

 

[Rightguide]

https://mediamythalert.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/nixon-resigns_1974.jpg

What a dopey fuck.

 

[Amoebah]

What a dopey fuck.

I agree; Trump might be the dopiest president ever.

 

[phrodeau]

If Cohen gets convicted in NY state court, only Cuomo can pardon him, not Trump.

Something tells me that Cohen will gladly sit in jail rather than turn in evidence against Trump.

 

[Amoebah]

If Cohen gets convicted in NY state court, only Cuomo can pardon him, not Trump.

Something tells me that Cohen will gladly sit in jail rather than turn in evidence against Trump.

the trump extended family tradition continues

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[ishtat]

Jonathon Turley has been positioning himself as a possible Supreme Court nomination for some time.This article is just another part of his cv.

Talk Radio needs to understand the motives of the writer he is quoting before banging on about what is only an opinion tailored to kiss DT's ass. .

 

[Hypoxia]

If Cohen gets convicted in NY state court, only Cuomo can pardon him, not Trump.

The warrant and raid were federal, not state. Feds might share relevant evidence with state prosecutors, so state trials might ensue, but the action now is federal.

Something tells me that Cohen will gladly sit in jail rather than turn in evidence against Trump.

Team Trompers knowing of Tromp's ties to Putin's mafiya buddies might feel safer locked inside (they kept quiet) than walking outside (they talked) because mafiyas may be *unkind* to blabbers.

Survival mantra: "I have nothing to say."

Alas, seized records tell their own story.

 

[Hypoxia]

As I have previously written, Mueller does not appear to have a compelling criminal case against Trump for collusion with the Russians. Indeed, Trump remains a “subject,” not a target...

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/382411-trump-must-beware-the-cohen-trap

Collusion ain't the crime; conspiracy and treason are. And subjects can quickly become targets. Turley is yammering er I mean misleading. And he's pretty obvious as a suckup. Tromp likes that.

 

[HisArpy]

Collusion ain't the crime; conspiracy and treason are. And subjects can quickly become targets. Turley is yammering er I mean misleading. And he's pretty obvious as a suckup. Tromp likes that.

Treason requires a declaration of war. We don't have one. So, no treason charge will happen. This has been explained again and again and again on this board.

Conspiracy? Ok, conspiracy to do what? And with whom?

 

[doowdniw]

The President should refuse to talk to Mueller about anything other than defined criminal behavior in regard to the Russian collusion mandate he was charged to investigate. If he talks to Mueller he should refuse to answer any question that goes to his motives in executing his constitutional authority.

Absolutely. He should plead the 5th. What could go wrong with that? Or he could just cross his arms and stomp his feet. Before he rolls on the floor and demands his binky.

 

[Hypoxia]

Treason requires a declaration of war. We don't have one. So, no treason charge will happen. This has been explained again and again and again on this board.

http://constitutionus.com

Article III Section 3
1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

'Declaration' is not specified, merely 'levying' i.e. waging war. The Russian foreign minister and the US UN ambassador both declared last year that Russia is waging war on the US. The criteria for treason are met.

Conspiracy? Ok, conspiracy to do what? And with whom?

I could spin-out a list here but hey, that's not my job. So just await the indictments. And keep squawking.

I just received an email bulletin -- "Breaking News: F.B.I. agents who raided the office of President Trump's lawyer sought records of payments to 2 women who claim they had affairs with Mr. Trump"

Tromp's personal attorney using Tromp campaign cash to buy-off witnesses. Tsk tsk. If Tromp and Cohen talked about this, it's felony conspiracy. Let's wonder what the seized records will show.

 

[Amoebah]

http://www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/137/MPW-68902

 

[TalkRadio]

Jonathon Turley has been positioning himself as a possible Supreme Court nomination for some time.This article is just another part of his cv.

Talk Radio needs to understand the motives of the writer he is quoting before banging on about what is only an opinion tailored to kiss DT's ass. .

You guys need some good International news.

At the International Rugby Women's tournament in Sydney Canada upset the hosts and Olympic Champions, Australia to get in the final.

An even bigger surprise in the other Semi, the USA beat the red hot favourites New Zealand.

Then the final, a hard fought but narrow win, 21 to 17,

"Sorry what was that?"

"Canada won - surely not - impossible."

"They did - they beat USA."

"Blimey - there'll be a Tweet demanding a Northern Wall tomorrow."

I sense a little anti-American & anti-Trump bias, Ishtat.

 

[cowslinger64]

The President should refuse to talk to Mueller about anything other than defined criminal behavior in regard to the Russian collusion mandate he was charged to investigate. If he talks to Mueller he should refuse to answer any question that goes to his motives in executing his constitutional authority.

You continue to ignore the authorization given to Mueller.

Text of the letter from Rosenstein:



(©ffice of tqe g}cput J\tiortte}:J ®eneral
l!lu.sl1ington, .<!!. 20530
ORDER NO. 3915-2017
APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COUNSEL
TO INVESTIGATE RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE WITH THE
2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND RELATED MATTERS
By virtue of the authority vested in me as Acting Attorney General, including 28 U.S.C.
§§ 509, 510, and 515, in order to discharge my responsibility to provide supervision and
management of the Department of Justice, and to ensure a full and thorough investigation of the
Russian govemmenfs efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, I hereby order as
follows:
(a)

Robert S. Mueller III is appointed t() serve as Specia] Counsel for the United States

Department of Justice.
(b)

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confinned by then-FBI

Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i)

any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(c)

(ii)

any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii)

any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is

authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.
(d)

Sections 600.4 through 600. l 0 of Title 28 of the Code of Federal Regulations are

applicable to the Special Counsel.

Date '
1

 

[Rightguide]

Absolutely. He should plead the 5th. What could go wrong with that? Or he could just cross his arms and stomp his feet. Before he rolls on the floor and demands his binky.

Why? He's done nothing wrong and the SP has not charged him with a violation of any federal statute, nor has he alleged that he did. As far as obstruction of justice goes in the firing of Comey, there can be no obstruction of justice when the President is exercising his constitutional authority and the President doesn't have to answer any question that goes to what his state of mind was during that decision making process. So take that tin foil back to Reynolds.

 

[Rightguide]

You continue to ignore the authorization given to Mueller.

Text of the letter from Rosenstein:



(©ffice of tqe g}cput J\tiortte}:J ®eneral
l!lu.sl1ington, .<!!. 20530
ORDER NO. 3915-2017
APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COUNSEL
TO INVESTIGATE RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE WITH THE
2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND RELATED MATTERS
By virtue of the authority vested in me as Acting Attorney General, including 28 U.S.C.
§§ 509, 510, and 515, in order to discharge my responsibility to provide supervision and
management of the Department of Justice, and to ensure a full and thorough investigation of the
Russian govemmenfs efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, I hereby order as
follows:
(a)

Robert S. Mueller III is appointed t() serve as Specia] Counsel for the United States

Department of Justice.
(b)

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confinned by then-FBI

Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i)

any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(c)

(ii)

any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii)

any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is

authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.
(d)

Sections 600.4 through 600. l 0 of Title 28 of the Code of Federal Regulations are

applicable to the Special Counsel.

Date '
1

I'll bet you don't know that charge to Mueller most likely violates the Special Counsel regulations of the DOJ itself. That statement bolded above is not a

“specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated.” Nor is it an ancillary power to address efforts to impede or obstruct investigation under 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

 

[cowslinger64]

I'll bet you don't know that charge to Mueller most likely violates the Special Counsel regulations of the DOJ itself. That statement bolded above is not a

“specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated.” Nor is it an ancillary power to address efforts to impede or obstruct investigation under 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

Lol...bless your heart..


You're reaching waaaaay out there, vette..

 

[HisArpy]

http://constitutionus.com

Article III Section 3
1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

'Declaration' is not specified, merely 'levying' i.e. waging war. The Russian foreign minister and the US UN ambassador both declared last year that Russia is waging war on the US. The criteria for treason are met.

I could spin-out a list here but hey, that's not my job. So just await the indictments. And keep squawking.

I just received an email bulletin -- "Breaking News: F.B.I. agents who raided the office of President Trump's lawyer sought records of payments to 2 women who claim they had affairs with Mr. Trump"

Tromp's personal attorney using Tromp campaign cash to buy-off witnesses. Tsk tsk. If Tromp and Cohen talked about this, it's felony conspiracy. Let's wonder what the seized records will show.

Ok, let's break this down. First the definition of Treason.

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

So, for a treason charge to stick you have to have the following:

A person who owes allegiance to the US.
Who levies war (actually engages in warfare against the US by either declaration or action), or;
Adheres to enemies of the US, giving them aid and comfort within the US or elsewhere.

So now we have Trump who is a citizen
Who has NOT engaged in warfare against the US
OR
who has NOT given aid or comfort to enemies of the US.

Whatever you were told (or came up with yourself) to the contrary is BS.


Now, let's move on to your conspiracy theory...

IF.

IF, IF, IF.

So far what you have is "IF" and no facts. You have a desire, a fantasy, an alternate reality, but no actual evidence or facts.

 

[Rightguide]

Lol...bless your heart..


You're reaching waaaaay out there, vette..

Vette my ass. Friggin' dummy. There's a whole host of reasons why that investigation isn't on the up and up. Mueller accepted the post knowing he had long standing conflicts of interest, as does Rosenstein. Also, Rosenstein charged Mueller to investigate a crime that doesn't exist in US law, no mention of a statute violation. i could go on and on, but you are blinded by ideology.

 

[cowslinger64]

Vette my ass. Friggin' dummy. There's a whole host of reasons why that investigation isn't on the up and up. Mueller accepted the post knowing he had long standing conflicts of interest, as does Rosenstein. Also, Rosenstein charged Mueller to investigate a crime that doesn't exist in US law, no mention of a statute violation. i could go on and on, but you are blinded by ideology.

Bwahahahaha...what a fuckin idiot.


I'm not blinded by anything dumbass.. This investigation is incredibly important and needs to finish. None of the rwcj have any fuckin clue as to what is happening and what has been found other than what has been let out. In the extremely unlikely event no wrongdoing by trump is found, then so be it. I don't have a problem with that.. or that the investigation by a REPUBLICAN continues..


You never whined about the Benghazi hearings..

 

[someoneyouknow]

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[LJ_Reloaded]

Treason requires a declaration of war. We don't have one. So, no treason charge will happen. This has been explained again and again and again on this board.

Conspiracy? Ok, conspiracy to do what? And with whom?

Anything dumber than you would by definition be undead.

 

[HisArpy]

Anything dumber than you would by definition be undead.

Oh I'm so happy you decided to reply on point rather than just toss out irrelevant bullshit again.

Oh wait... what was I thinking. Never mind.