Why does anyone NEED an assault rifle?

[KimGordon67]

So successfully defending your home from invasion is rare, you say?

Wow - I didn't know I was such a rarity. All I needed to defend my home from invasion was a cat that was alert enough to wake me up, and an entirely unarmed (and actually naked) boyfriend. Though I'm pretty confident that in the absence of the boyfriend, I would have sorted something out myself - I certainly have in the past.

 

[phrodeau]

Fixed that for you.

And congrats!! In 55 years I have never used that word to describe a woman. You're the first. It was the only word I could find to describe it. Even a total bitch has one or two endearing qualities. But you have NONE. ZERO. NADA.

To sit there and accuse gun owners of being as cold hearted as to not care what happened to those kids and their friends is nothing more than an attempt to use spite to piss people off and get a reaction. YOU want to stand on their graves and shout slander to get what you want.

Why don't you try fixing the REAL FUCKING PROBLEM instead of being a stupid cunt?

You are now on ignore. I have more use for used toilet paper than I do an ignorant, offensive retard like you.

And now you get to do your happy dance because you think that means you win.

I guess some people are tired of hearing from those who have no solutions.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Learn how to read. I was responding to Coach's post:

When I see a bunch of acne faced whiney high school kids being loud and obnoxious for their ‘gun control’ handlers, I’m reminded of the National Geographic video of the little full of energy and spunk bear cub wandering up to the big sleeping Adult male bear, and pestering the living shit out of him, which upon about the third such occurrence, the resting giant takes one giant paw to the little fucker, knocking him about 3/4 of the way across the Sarenghetti. At which point the little guy somberly staggers back to a safe distance and puts his soft little rattled head down for a nap!

Sure sounds like a threat of violence to me. it's only you who assumed I'm addressing all gun owners. Feeling bad, again? You really have a guilty conscience!

And thanks for proving what is becoming very clear day by day: mass shooters have a big problem with domestic violence and ANGER AGAINST WOMEN.

Fixed that for you.

And congrats!! In 55 years I have never used that word to describe a woman. You're the first. It was the only word I could find to describe it. Even a total bitch has one or two endearing qualities. But you have NONE. ZERO. NADA.

To sit there and accuse gun owners of being as cold hearted as to not care what happened to those kids and their friends is nothing more than an attempt to use spite to piss people off and get a reaction. YOU want to stand on their graves and shout slander to get what you want.

Why don't you try fixing the REAL FUCKING PROBLEM instead of being a stupid cunt?

You are now on ignore. I have more use for used toilet paper than I do an ignorant, offensive retard like you.

And now you get to do your happy dance because you think that means you win.

 

[KimGordon67]

Learn how to read. I was responding to Coach's post:



Sure sounds like a threat of violence to me. it's only you who assumed I'm addressing all gun owners. Feeling bad, again? You really have a guilty conscience!

And thanks for proving what is becoming very clear day by day: mass shooters have a big problem with domestic violence and ANGER AGAINST WOMEN.

It wouldn't be the first time Coach has threatened violence on Lit ... he's just learnt to couch it in 'parables' so as not to get reported.

 

[zotique]

coachdb18

"When I see a bunch of acne faced whiney high school kids being loud and obnoxious for their ‘gun control’ handlers, I’m reminded of the National Geographic video of the little full of energy and spunk bear cub wandering up to the big sleeping Adult male bear, and pestering the living shit out of him, which upon about the third such occurrence, the resting giant takes one giant paw to the little fucker, knocking him about 3/4 of the way across the Sarenghetti. At which point the little guy somberly staggers back to a safe distance and puts his soft little rattled head down for a nap! "


This is fucking hilarious!

Bears in the Serengeti in Africa?

Who knew?

And Serengeti spelled as if it is an Italian pasta dish.

Priceless.

 

[sr71plt]

I guess some people are tired of hearing from those who have no solutions.

And particularly from those who despicably won't acknowledge there's a problem while people, riddled with bullets, are dropping all around them.

 

[My I]

Learn how to read. I was responding to Coach's post:



Sure sounds like a threat of violence to me. it's only you who assumed I'm addressing all gun owners. Feeling bad, again? You really have a guilty conscience!

And thanks for proving what is becoming very clear day by day: mass shooters have a big problem with domestic violence and ANGER AGAINST WOMEN.

And you are proving MY point. I am not a mass shooter. Never going to be. Never pointed a gun at anyone in my life. Including the people who think they can win an argument by spit the most vile, unsubstantiated insults at their opponent in order to piss them off enough to incite violent behavior. My anger is not because she is a woman. (even though a real woman does not behave that way to get their way. My anger is being constantly called things like "child killer" "mass shooter" "heartless, bloodthirsty, psychopath", sexist, racist, misogynist, a dozen phobics and everything else in the book because you don't agree with me. It's ignorant, childish, offensive and violent on YOUR part. Everything you liberals profess NOT to be.

So now, I'm done with you too. If you can't have a reasonable intelligent discussion without twisting peoples words and resorting to insults then insults are what you are going to get back.

 

[Hypoxia]

[many unlabeled uTube links]

Do you need to see more? There's hundreds of them on youtube.

Ok, one short article

Oh goody! Zillions of bullshit uTube vids to skip, and one bullshit article to laugh at. Article starts by quoting Reagon's "gov't is the problem" bullshit, which shreds the Constitution the faker supposedly defended.

BTW y'all should know that Reagan was real big on gun control. For blacks. After Black Panthers exercised their constitutional right to bear arms at the state capitol, the then-CA governator signed NRA-backed gun-control laws. Then the FBI killed lots of Panthers, eliminating THAT threat. Whew.

Later, Reagan himself was shot. Ironic...

Bad joke. Q: Name Reagan's favorite vegetable? A: James Brady.
_____

PS: It's admirable for people to declare their intention never to become a mass shooter, mad bomber, toxic-waste dumper, or strangler of nursing students. Everyone should take the pledge. Repeat after me:

I, [your name here], SWEAR ON MY HONOR AS A VERTEBRATE NEVER TO BE A MASS-MURDERING ASSHOLE, NO MATTER WHAT THE VOICES IN MY HEAD TELL ME TO DO, SO HELP ME DOG.​

That should settle things. Also be sure not to leave deadly stuff around for infants to accidentally kill living things. Babies with nailguns are a sin.

 

[KeithD]

And you are proving MY point. I am not a mass shooter. Never going to be. Never pointed a gun at anyone in my life.

Sorry, you've shown a subhuman complete lack of respect for the lives of others and a mentally fucked up attitude here. You should be kept way the hell away from any firearms.

 

[KimGordon67]

I'm not paying attention to anecdotal evidence because ... well, it's anecdotal.

Re: the 'article' you posted - here's other stuff written by the same author - he's not exactly a 'neutral' voice. And his correlations in no shape or form constitute 'peer reviewed research'. If, however, you're offering that as the evidence of your argument, I'll do some serious analysis of it. ARE you offering that as the evidence of your argument?

Still waiting ... this would be the second time I've asked if 'evidence' provided is being offered as actual proof of My_I's argument before I start seriously analysing it, and the second time he's opted to just not respond. Which makes me think that in both instances, he's pretty aware that his 'evidence' doesn't really bear up under scrutiny.

 

[KimGordon67]

coachdb18

"When I see a bunch of acne faced whiney high school kids being loud and obnoxious for their ‘gun control’ handlers, I’m reminded of the National Geographic video of the little full of energy and spunk bear cub wandering up to the big sleeping Adult male bear, and pestering the living shit out of him, which upon about the third such occurrence, the resting giant takes one giant paw to the little fucker, knocking him about 3/4 of the way across the Sarenghetti. At which point the little guy somberly staggers back to a safe distance and puts his soft little rattled head down for a nap! "


This is fucking hilarious!

Bears in the Serengeti in Africa?

Who knew?

And Serengeti spelled as if it is an Italian pasta dish.

Priceless.

*but he's in Mensa, so you know, you just must be wrong*

 

[Carnal_Flower]

The Serenghetti extends between Tiramisu and Nambia in central Shitholia.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

coachdb18

"When I see a bunch of acne faced whiney high school kids being loud and obnoxious for their ‘gun control’ handlers, I’m reminded of the National Geographic video of the little full of energy and spunk bear cub wandering up to the big sleeping Adult male bear, and pestering the living shit out of him, which upon about the third such occurrence, the resting giant takes one giant paw to the little fucker, knocking him about 3/4 of the way across the Sarenghetti. At which point the little guy somberly staggers back to a safe distance and puts his soft little rattled head down for a nap! "


This is fucking hilarious!

Bears in the Serengeti in Africa?

Who knew?

And Serengeti spelled as if it is an Italian pasta dish.

Priceless.

They have no idea of the shit storm these kids are going to drop on them.

 

[Hypoxia]

They have no idea of the shit storm these kids are going to drop on them.

Actually, they DO have some idea of what's coming. That's why they'e flailing frantically, lying, freaking out, oomma-goomma. They KNOW they have no place in the national future except on some unsanitary opioid-laden fringe.

Let's see. You're 18 or older. You get to choose between candidates. One says it's okay for you to be shot. Another says it isn't. Who do you vote for? What will happen to candidates who say its okay for voters to be shot?

Expect walls to be torn down, too.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I keep telling you they have and you keep insisting they've only banned "cosmetic" parts of it.

When did they ban semi-automatic guns? They are for sale everywhere....have been for almost 200 fuckin' years.

That has NEVER happened, they've never even tried because they KNOW it would get struck down, they haven't even banned fully automatic guns....because they knew THAT would get struck down too.

As long as 2A is there you can only regulate guns, you can't ban them.

This is why "assault weapons" bans only ban features, you yourself said so when you quoted and paraphrased the laws saying as much.

That's why despite CA/NY/MA/NJ's best efforts to ban them.....we the people can still both purchase and import AR-15's into those states by just changing the accessories/features on them.

Same sami-automatic rifle shooting the same bullets, just as rapidly via the exact same mechanism, but not an "assault" rifle because it doesn't have pieces on it that look like the military versions.

Exactly ... it seems so difficult for people to understand that you only really 'need' a gun to defend yourself if you're in a situation where you have to assume that everyone else has guns too. I guess if you're in that situation, though, it's difficult to imagine any alternative.

That is simply wrong.

Need is a matter of capabilities vs. the unknown.

Guns are a force equalizer in situations where you might not last very long against an overpowering or numerous attackers.

I'm 6'4" 220lbs, combat vet with extensive training....if I were kicking down your bedroom door when I got in there how long do you think you would last, you unarmed and me with a baseball bat or knife?

Or lets say it's not a big guy with a bat, let's say it's 2 average sized guys looking to rape you, how do you think that would turn out for you?

Now lets say upon making entry to your quarters instead of finding you with a phone begging 911 to hurry the fuck up, your attackers find themselves looking down the barrel of a 12ga shot gun....suddenly you're not so disadvantaged against the big guy with the bat or the rape gang are you?

The 120lb blond is a lot harder for Mr.Psycho to rape and murder when she's cranking 9mm +P hollow points into him.

 

[phrodeau]

Did you leave your body armor at home?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Did you leave your body armor at home?

When?

 

[Carnal_Flower]

First of all, I don't think there's anything wrong with banning the crap that appeals to teen boys wanting to look tough, so I have nothing against "cosmetic" bans.

In any case, I'm taking you at your word for this plus I've been doing research:

As long as 2A is there you can only regulate guns, you can't ban them.

This is why "assault weapons" bans only ban features, you yourself said so when you quoted and paraphrased the laws saying as much.

And I'm asking you what is the definitive "gun" part of what you are calling a "gun?" What exact parts can they not ban?

When did they ban semi-automatic guns? They are for sale everywhere....have been for almost 200 fuckin' years.

That has NEVER happened, they've never even tried because they KNOW it would get struck down, they haven't even banned fully automatic guns....because they knew THAT would get struck down too.

As long as 2A is there you can only regulate guns, you can't ban them.

This is why "assault weapons" bans only ban features, you yourself said so when you quoted and paraphrased the laws saying as much.

That's why despite CA/NY/MA/NJ's best efforts to ban them.....we the people can still both purchase and import AR-15's into those states by just changing the accessories/features on them.

Same sami-automatic rifle shooting the same bullets, just as rapidly via the exact same mechanism, but not an "assault" rifle because it doesn't have pieces on it that look like the military versions.

 

[coachdb18]

coachdb18

"When I see a bunch of acne faced whiney high school kids being loud and obnoxious for their ‘gun control’ handlers, I’m reminded of the National Geographic video of the little full of energy and spunk bear cub wandering up to the big sleeping Adult male bear, and pestering the living shit out of him, which upon about the third such occurrence, the resting giant takes one giant paw to the little fucker, knocking him about 3/4 of the way across the Sarenghetti. At which point the little guy somberly staggers back to a safe distance and puts his soft little rattled head down for a nap! "


This is fucking hilarious!

Bears in the Serengeti in Africa?

Who knew?

And Serengeti spelled as if it is an Italian pasta dish.

Priceless.

Yea, my mistake, they were Lions. Gave you something to jump all over and made your day, huh! And just FYI, I hate spellcheck, especially when it fucks up and just changes shit... probably originally made by a liberal!

 

[coachdb18]

When did they ban semi-automatic guns? They are for sale everywhere....have been for almost 200 fuckin' years.

That has NEVER happened, they've never even tried because they KNOW it would get struck down, they haven't even banned fully automatic guns....because they knew THAT would get struck down too.

As long as 2A is there you can only regulate guns, you can't ban them.

This is why "assault weapons" bans only ban features, you yourself said so when you quoted and paraphrased the laws saying as much.

That's why despite CA/NY/MA/NJ's best efforts to ban them.....we the people can still both purchase and import AR-15's into those states by just changing the accessories/features on them.


Same sami-automatic rifle shooting the same bullets, just as rapidly via the exact same mechanism, but not an "assault" rifle because it doesn't have pieces on it that look like the military versions.



That is simply wrong.

Need is a matter of capabilities vs. the unknown.

Guns are a force equalizer in situations where you might not last very long against an overpowering or numerous attackers.

I'm 6'4" 220lbs, combat vet with extensive training....if I were kicking down your bedroom door when I got in there how long do you think you would last, you unarmed and me with a baseball bat or knife?

Or lets say it's not a big guy with a bat, let's say it's 2 average sized guys looking to rape you, how do you think that would turn out for you?

Now lets say upon making entry to your quarters instead of finding you with a phone begging 911 to hurry the fuck up, your attackers find themselves looking down the barrel of a 12ga shot gun....suddenly you're not so disadvantaged against the big guy with the bat or the rape gang are you?

The 120lb blond is a lot harder for Mr.Psycho to rape and murder when she's cranking 9mm +P hollow points into him.

Let’s just say that the Muslims in Europe, and becoming so in America,are an omnipresent danger... Charlie Hebdo, the 911 attacks, all the TSA restrictions on everything from hair gel to shoes to underwear... the possibility of an attack is an everyday possibility, NOBODY is truly safe. All you can be is adequately and appropriately prepared.

Now, about those Sarenghetti glasses ... fuck all!
https://bmgcreative.com/portfolio/optical-spectrum-las-olas/sarenghetti-glasses/

 

[KimGordon67]

Yea, my mistake, they were Lions. Gave you something to jump all over and made your day, huh! And just FYI, I hate spellcheck, especially when it fucks up and just changes shit... probably originally made by a liberal!

*Continues to completely ignore the much larger error he made reading basic statistics. Because, y'know, lion/bears ... THAT'S the real issue here.*

 

[KimGordon67]

Let’s just say that the Muslims in Europe, and becoming so in America,are an omnipresent danger... Charlie Hebdo, the 911 attacks, all the TSA restrictions on everything from hair gel to shoes to underwear... the possibility of an attack is an everyday possibility, NOBODY is truly safe. All you can be is adequately and appropriately prepared.

Now, about those Sarenghetti glasses ... fuck all!
https://bmgcreative.com/portfolio/optical-spectrum-las-olas/sarenghetti-glasses/

Just to reiterate My_I's point here - you're more at risk from yoghurt that terrorists (except in this instance the actual risk from choking really IS higher than the actual risk of being killed by a terrorist). Interestingly, the risk of accidental gun death is also higher than the risk of terrorist attack. If you're going to be scared of things, maybe be scared of things that might actually harm you. Source.

 

[BotanyBoy]

First of all, I don't think there's anything wrong with banning the crap that appeals to teen boys wanting to look tough, so I have nothing against "cosmetic" bans.

Nah, a sexist spite junkie like yourself wouldn't.

IDGAF either, I have actual military hardware and plenty of civilian toys that will be grandfathered in safe and sound from bullshit.

And I'm asking you what is the definitive "gun" part of what you are calling a "gun?" What exact parts can they not ban?

Generally it's the lower receiver, the part with the serial number on it.

Everything else is considered just a part/accessory.

Certain part/accessory sets are regulated in certain ways, certain jurisdictions and classes of weaponry have tighter regs than others. But NONE of them ban any class of weapons as a whole.

Let’s just say that the Muslims in Europe, and becoming so in America,are an omnipresent danger...

I'm far more concerned with the drunk/methed out trailer trash when I'm up in the mountains and the hood rats in Oakland when I'm in the bay.

 

[KimGordon67]

Nah, a sexist spite junkie like yourself wouldn't.

IDGAF either, I have actual military weaponry



Generally it's the lower receiver, the part with the serial number on it.

Everything else is considered just a part/accessory.

Certain part/accessory sets are regulated in certain ways, certain jurisdictions and classes of weaponry have tighter regs than others. But NONE of them ban any class of weapons as a whole.



I'm far more concerned with the drunk/methed out trailer trash when I'm up in the mountains and the hood rats in Oakland when I'm in the bay.

But the Muslims are OMNIPRESENT. Even in the mountains!

 

[BotanyBoy]

But the Muslims are OMNIPRESENT. Even in the mountains!

https://assets.mubi.com/images/notebook/post_images/21942/images-w1400.jpg?1471968640
Especially in the mountains.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/postban/animated%20gifs/1246905095.jpg

Where they'll put a jihad on you!!
https://ci.memecdn.com/6400523.jpg