The non consent setup

[Jaxon16]

When writing a non-consent story, how does one keep the setup believable. The author does not want to lose the reader before the story develops. I can think of three categories for the setup, and maybe there are more I have not included.

1. A straight forward rape can comes across believable. Just read the news every day.

2. Mind control/drugged: where the victim does not realize the rape occurred until after the fact, or is not sure it ever really happened. Has anyone written this part of Bill Cosby's biography?

3. Some kind of extortion is used by the perpetrator. The victim is paying back money owed, evading punishment for a crime or an indiscretion, or trading the rape for as part of a longer term plan to fool or gain leverage on an assailant or other characters in the story.

For these extortion scenarios a reader could always ask why won't the victim just say no or go to the authorities with the extortion charge? It is up to the writer to take us inside the victim's head to weigh the cost/benefits and have the victim believe adhering to the extortion is the only salvation. Otherwise, the author writes a different story about defiance, much like a victim fighting off physical attackers.

In a recent real (non sexual) example about a known executive choosing against extortion, John Skipper of ESPN gave up his career to avoid the extortion of a perpetrator releasing news about his drug addiction.



So far all of my stories have a haircut or head shave theme. In a few of them the haircut is non consensual, and can be taken as a rape of the character's hair.

I never write straight forward rape stories.

In "Call me Al" I write a mind control story, but the characters are releasing inhibitions with loved ones and do not believe they were raped of body or of their hair.

For "Defender of the Realm" the heroine goes through turmoil to uncover a plot, so the head shave is part of the setting up her deception.

In "A Lesson in Humility" I write about the victim avoiding a devastating law suit, and what she must endure. I have been criticized about the credibility of this setup, whether fairly or not.

As a reader of non-con stories I usually give the author plenty of time and a wide lane of credibility to develop the setup. However, I need hints that the payoff for my patience will yield an entertaining tale.

 

[Unholywood]

What's 'believable' is dependent on the reader, but some people just don't believe that someone wouldn't go to the cops. It's something that crops up in domestic abuse (though thankfully much less frequently than it used to), in that some people will think that the abused person must be making it up if they never took it to the police. If you want to close the police angle off, you could always have a police officer involved in the blackmail.

In terms of "A Lesson in Humility", the criticisms are correct. An unfair dismissal case wouldn't go through a company's financial records, so that side of the pressure doesn't make sense, and the law can't be used to coerce people in to cruel and unusual situations like that, and the fact that someone pushed for them would likely damage their case in court. People settle out of court for publicity reason, so if they had someone, in a room with their lawyer demanding the right to humiliate someone, they'd just be able to threaten to release that to damage the plaintiff.

Getting legal things right is difficult, the second season of Daredevil on Netflix was worthless in that regard and that had professional writers, so avoid using it unless you really know what you're doing

 

[JasonClearwater]

One of the most 'convincing' setups can be that the person being forced secretly wants it, but can't bring themselves to consent. So, by being forced (blackmailed is usually the least violent approach), they can enjoy the interaction without feeling responsible.

I think that's at the heart of most rape fantasies. I can't imagine many who enjoy non-con fantasies would ever want to be forced to do something they honestly didn't want to do in real life, but they do enjoy the idea of being controlled or forced in fantasy.

Because it will never be true-to-life, all that's needed is enough premise to allow the reader to enter the fantasy. Although those who want brutal realism, or who hate non-con will always bitch about 'and then they went to the cops and he was charged with rape', they're missing the point.

If the fantasy situation is a taboo act, goes against your religion or your upbringing, or it involves incest or sex outside your marriage, or homosexuality for a straight person, or it debases the character in a way the reader wouldn't feel comfortable consenting to, then being 'forced' removes that barrier, and allows the (fantasy) situation to happen.

To my mind, reality has nothing to do with non-con fantasies, although injecting some character intelligence makes it hotter. Empty heads going through the motions has no tension or interest to me.

 

[Magenta_Magee]

No tension

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To my mind, reality has nothing to do with non-con fantasies, although injecting some character intelligence makes it hotter. Empty heads going through the motions has no tension or interest to me.

I agree, some of the worst non-con I've read involve the use of some magic potion to turn an unwilling or taboo 'victim' into a mindless actor in their own subjugation. The best involve some sort of plot device where the 'victim' has to wrestle with their own actions and sensations.

 

[AllenWoody]

I had a story (my first) rejected by the editors because of the asymmetry. That is, the way I had originally written it only the manipulator enjoyed the encounter, not the 'victim'. While I felt this was a more realistic scenario, it clearly went against community values. I have since resubmitted it with less emphasis on asymmetry and more focus on some pleasure taken by the victim. Still waiting to see if my updated version is accepted.

Perhaps it's because I'm a guy, but fantasies where the female victim is really into being taken against her will never made sense to me. If she's into it, then it isn't a coercion/non-consent scenario.

 

[NotWise]

Perhaps it's because I'm a guy, but fantasies where the female victim is really into being taken against her will never made sense to me. If she's into it, then it isn't a coercion/non-consent scenario.

It happens. I was at a bar in the middle of fucking no-where once, having a drink with a local, when I made some comment about an attractive woman who was flirting with some guys behind him.

He didn't even look before he told me, "She's a fighter. It's easy enough to get her to your room, but if you want to fuck her then you're going to have to fight her."

She got off on being forced.

 

[SyleusSnow]

I just posted a little non-con story that's too believable (No Talking). So much so it's too mild for the usual non-con crowd.

(Writing a non-con wasn't the original intent... it just turned out that way. Bet that's never happened to anyone here )

There are many more scenarios you can consider. My story is a basic "gradually going to far" setup, at least until the girl abuses him back. Slow seductions or frustration build ups work well, and there are several "forced together" non-consensual stories on Lit where the characters have to get together due to some third party extorting or threatening them.

I dunno how believable the setup has to be though... many stories on Lit seem to do well with only the tiniest dose of plausibility.

 

[ThomasPain]

I can't imagine many who enjoy non-con fantasies would ever want to be forced to do something they honestly didn't want to do in real life, but they do enjoy the idea of being controlled or forced in fantasy..

Right on. Big difference between the fantasy of being forced and the reality of being forced to do something you truly find objectionable.

 

[ThomasPain]

... The best involve some sort of plot device where the 'victim' has to wrestle with their own actions and sensations.

That's so hot

 

[xelliebabex]

Reluctance

I think most of the best stories in this category focus on the reluctance.

As others have said it's not so much about the victim being forced but rather about them giving up or nor have to take responsibility for enjoying something they think they shouldn't within the constraint of their social boundaries while the aggressor has fully accepted their darker side.

 

[John988]

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[Weird Harold]

When writing a non-consent story, how does one keep the setup believable. The author does not want to lose the reader before the story develops. ...

Just write a good story. It doesn't really matter how "believable" the setup is in most cases. For a parody or humor story, the setup can be pure fantasy and have no logical consistency; if it is a good story, the reader won't care about "believable."

 

[Gentleman_G]

He didn't even look before he told me, "She's a fighter. It's easy enough to get her to your room, but if you want to fuck her then you're going to have to fight her."

She got off on being forced.

Huh. So that's a whole new level of 'playing hard to get'. Don't think I've encountered those before.

On the other hand, I can probably think of a few who might have that same quirk. But who knows?

 

[Charmolypi]

How about a setup where sex with him - or her - is logically unwanted but yields a reward or pleasure if the non-consenting character does. For example:

She’s the boss’s wife and he’s a jealous man who’d have your job, your house, your boat, your literal neck if you cross that line. Tough dilemma to be in when she’s running her hand across your bulging trouser jeans at the company golf tournament. “P...please...don’t do this” manages to escape your lips. Too bad the rest of your body won’t comply. It’s pretty obvious she can see “no” in your eyes but that’s not going to stop her from making you a pawn in her game.

Just please don’t Lobotomize The Bitch. It’s painful to read about characters getting fucked because they had an attack of stupidity so severe it caused them to trip and slip onto a dick (or vagina).

 

[AllenWoody]

Got my non-con story published

I hope you'll read it and let me know what you think. It's my first story here.


Megan's Coercion

I'm receiving mixed reviews, including the previously discussed "this isn't realistic" comments. I value all feedback, but wonder how much the lack of realism really bothers readers. Seems like not writing a hot scene would be more troubling than a hot scene where the reader has to suspend belief.


Thanks... AW

 

[JasonClearwater]

I hope you'll read it and let me know what you think. It's my first story here.


Megan's Coercion

I'm receiving mixed reviews, including the previously discussed "this isn't realistic" comments. I value all feedback, but wonder how much the lack of realism really bothers readers. Seems like not writing a hot scene would be more troubling than a hot scene where the reader has to suspend belief.


Thanks... AW

I took a look - including at the comments. The one commenter who said 'it's rape regardless' was right, but they were referring to the character saying 'I'm not a rapist', which is them missing the point, which is that the rapist doesn't have to identify as one in order to be a rapist. They also didn't' complain, so I don't think that's a vote against you.

And then this comment:

The dudes a dumbass
She has, all the evidence and she's toxic as fuck. Women like that don't become compliant sex sluts from planet Eros, they become vicious white that turn on you and destroy you the second you pass them off. He can prove underage drinking, and she can use his own tapes to prove contributing and coercion. The latter is a felony and the rest of your life ruined.

Looks like it was written by a very disgruntled MGTOW. Note how he sees the woman being coerced as a risk to 'ruining the life' of the rapist. Safe to say, you can ignore that one.

I am curious about what 'vicious white' is. But we may never know.

 

[nosebone]

I hope you'll read it and let me know what you think. It's my first story here.


Megan's Coercion

I'm receiving mixed reviews, including the previously discussed "this isn't realistic" comments. I value all feedback, but wonder how much the lack of realism really bothers readers. Seems like not writing a hot scene would be more troubling than a hot scene where the reader has to suspend belief.


Thanks... AW

AW,

I've read it and I'd say over all, it's good. This is not my usual genre, so please take my comments with a grain of salt. The usual stuff about punctuation, I myself am terrible at. You did well describing Megan. I could see her in women I know.

You had the opportunity with the omniscient security system to do more. I think it should have been more than bourbon that Rob saw her taking. Maybe she found a couple thousand dollars under his mattress and took it. You need something that could really be believable that she'd reluctantly submit to sex with him. Certainly, not a bottle of bourbon. Keep writing though. I enjoyed it.

You might submit future requests to "Story Feedback", as you might get more responses there.

 

[Soma99]

I wrote one where the sub decides she wants a certain guy to be her dom.

He’s not that into (obviously at first, it’s not a 3 sentence story)

So the non consenting doesn’t have to go just one way.

 

[LOAnnie2]

I wrote one where the sub decides she wants a certain guy to be her dom.

He’s not that into (obviously at first, it’s not a 3 sentence story)

So the non consenting doesn’t have to go just one way.

Exactly. My highest rated story on lit involves one where the premise is both parties are being blackmailed into sleeping with each other...