Non-argument

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Authors' Hangout >> Non-argument

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

This is a nonsensical thread, what sort of epsilon semi-moron comes up with a sad excuse for a thread like this? Your premise is flawed, your argument facile, and you probably smell of stewed broccoli as well.

Now, now what's all this silly talk then?

 

[onehitwanda]

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[filthytrancendence]

For what it's worth, I think I'm playing along with the joke by prolonging a pointless discussion just for the hell of it. (And procrastinating on writing 'cause that's the entire purpose of being on the forums.)

Me too

I had fun with it.

I do kinda think that was an interesting discussion to have though. I should probably go eat something and then write something. But next time I'm feeling the urge to procrastinate, I'll synthesize my rebuttal

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

What points in a pointless discussion point to the discussion being pointless?

At what point does a pointless discussion become pointed?

 

[Kelliezgirl]

A non-argument is when two or more people argue about something which they don't actually disagree with, and so they go round and round in circles with people getting their feelings hurt because they're trying to make the other see their view when the problem is they're saying the same exact thing just in a different way and so don't realize they're talking about the same thing.

Anyways! What are some fun non-arguments you've seen or can think up?

The term I've heard is "being in violent agreement".

 

[filthytrancendence]

The term I've heard is "being in violent agreement".

Is that the inverse of aggressive negotiations?

 

[Erozetta]

Me too

I had fun with it.

I do kinda think that was an interesting discussion to have though. I should probably go eat something and then write something. But next time I'm feeling the urge to procrastinate, I'll synthesize my rebuttal

(For argument's sake: Those cupcakes fucking rocked!)

 

[filthytrancendence]

As promised...

Since I made the cupcake, I could also tell you that the cupcake is actually made of dirt and therefore probably not delicious.

Neither is evidence that either proves what the cupcake is made of or the flavor of the cupcake.

While I agree with everything you said, I must point out that I was commenting on the visual appeal of the photograph, not the actual taste of the cupcake, or even if it truly ever existed.

My subjective evidence was in support of an aesthetic argument about what constitutes the visual attribute of 'delicious'

And in that case, there exists nothing except subjective evidence. Unless you want to say that aggregating a bunch of different people's subjective view of the aesthetics of deliciousness eventually becomes something like objective.

And in that case, I think we can probably agree that most people would affirm that the cupcake in your avatar looks delicious. Because it is something like the platonic ideal of a chocolate cupcake, which is a thing most humans find appealing.

Admittedly, I chose this example at random simply because the photo was handy while I was typing. And I have not proved anything profound by making this argument. My intent is simply to demonstrate that aesthetics are another field, which are certainly relevant to writing, where subjective evidence is not only appropriate and accepted, but simply the only type of evidence there is.