High School Shooting In Florida

[BobaFetaCheese]

Perhaps in this day and age of evil and sickness, we should take away guns for talking shit. I've never met a gun owner who talked shit. They take gun ownership and use VERY seriously.

Yeah who needs that first amendment anyway.

 

[AngusBridie]

Perhaps in this day and age of evil and sickness, we should take away guns for talking shit. I've never met a gun owner who talked shit. They take gun ownership and use VERY seriously.

I'm no expert on the law, but I think that goes against your constitutional rights, that and mattresses without tags.

 

[Chivas2infinity]

Yep cause all these shootings were all done by trans or gay people.

Nooooo, they were done by crazy people that liberals said were sane and safe, when in fact they were neither.
Fuck, we can't even get liberals to lock up the violent repeat offenders for good, even after they kill someone.

Yep conservatives fucking hate that liberal Reagan.

Except that liberals made it harder to commit people into institutions which still exist.
Dude was crazy. He could have and should have been committed. People heard something, they seen something, they said something, but the government did nothing because liberals and the AIM scream that crazy people deserve to be free. They don't.

 

[islandman]

Perhaps in this day and age of evil and sickness, we should take away guns for talking shit. I've never met a gun owner who talked shit. They take gun ownership and use VERY seriously.

You clearly need to get out more.

 

[Dribble]

What would have happened if they did check on him? They can't take away his guns if he legally owns them just for talking shit. What crime did he commit? I get what you're saying but think about it.

I am thinking about it...if a person commits a felony...can their guns be confiscated? Yes.

So why can a person that has several red flags raised...a person that writes online about hate...a person w a history of violence...be allowed to keep their guns? Or worse...buy more? Confiscate them and give the person a pathway to prove they are stable enough to own a gun. No brainer.

Is it legal to own a sawed off shotgun? No. This has stood 2 Supreme Court tests...Miller and Heller. Why should it be legal to own magazines that can allow 50 rounds being fired in 15 seconds? Will violence still happen? Yes...but if you limit the number of rounds that can be fired...this can't happen. Again...no brainer.

 

[Dribble]

You don't mention how a "check" results in Cruz not shooting up a school. Are you suggesting forced psychological testing at the police's whim?

Yes...if that is what it takes. Any person posting hate online, should be checked for mental stability. There must be a standard. This is only happening in the USA. No where else is this happening. No civilized country has this problem. Only us. Time to look in the mirror and and accept responsibility. We can keep going the path we are...or we can do something different.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

I am thinking about it...if a person commits a felony...can their guns be confiscated? Yes.

So why can a person that has several red flags raised...a person that writes online about hate...a person w a history of violence...be allowed to keep their guns? Or worse...buy more? Confiscate them and give the person a pathway to prove they are stable enough to own a gun. No brainer.

Is it legal to own a sawed off shotgun? No. This has stood 2 Supreme Court tests...Miller and Heller. Why should it be legal to own magazines that can allow 50 rounds being fired in 15 seconds? Will violence still happen? Yes...but if you limit the number of rounds that can be fired...this can't happen. Again...no brainer.

Writing online about hate is protected speech.
If a person has a history of violence they are not allowed to buy guns.
As far as I know nobody actually confiscates gun if you have a felony, you're just not supposed to have them and can't buy them anymore. Maybe some places or some felonies they can but not that I've heard of. And it's not like they can't hide them.
You've mentioned the high cap mags before. Doesn't have much to do with anything. This guy didn't have any from what I heard, he just had a whole bunch of mags. You can buy those at walmart and never show an id.
And sawed off shotguns are only illegal at a certain length and even then you can have them if you get a permit.

 

[Chivas2infinity]

Yes...if that is what it takes. Any person posting hate online, should be checked for mental stability.

There's already proven, documented crazy and violent people walking free. Lock them fuckers up and throw away the key.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

Yes...if that is what it takes. Any person posting hate online, should be checked for mental stability. There must be a standard. This is only happening in the USA. No where else is this happening. No civilized country has this problem. Only us. Time to look in the mirror and and accept responsibility. We can keep going the path we are...or we can do something different.

You're talking about curtailing the most important part of our constitution. I'd honestly rather live with what we have now.

 

[Dribble]

You're talking about curtailing the most important part of our constitution. I'd honestly rather live with what we have now.

I wouldn't. This country is a disgrace. Letting kids die for your right to speak hate. Letting kids die for your right to own a gun. Sad.

 

[Dribble]

Writing online about hate is protected speech.
If a person has a history of violence they are not allowed to buy guns.
As far as I know nobody actually confiscates gun if you have a felony, you're just not supposed to have them and can't buy them anymore. Maybe some places or some felonies they can but not that I've heard of. And it's not like they can't hide them.
You've mentioned the high cap mags before. Doesn't have much to do with anything. This guy didn't have any from what I heard, he just had a whole bunch of mags. You can buy those at walmart and never show an id.
And sawed off shotguns are only illegal at a certain length and even then you can have them if you get a permit.

Is there a database of gun purchases? Yep. If I get a felony...am I asked if I have any guns? Yep. But you telling me that we can't take one-onemillionth of a sec to run a data check to see if I am lying?

You say we can buy as many magazines as we want...why is that even possible? What need is there? Only place it matters is if you are going to start a war. You going to go up against our govt? Seriously?

 

[Chivas2infinity]

I wouldn't. This country is a disgrace. Letting kids die for your right to speak hate. Letting kids die for your right to own a gun. Sad.

Most kids in Chicago under 18 are killed by people with histories of violent crime who are not allowed to even hold a firearm. The Democrats and liberals protect them pieces of shit from being dealt with the way that they need to be dealt with.
Sad.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

I wouldn't. This country is a disgrace. Letting kids die for your right to speak hate. Letting kids die for your right to own a gun. Sad.

I like guns and think the 2nd is important but I'm all for sensible gun control however the 1st can't be compromised. Not ever for any reason. You might be ok with it but I'm not and most people aren't. It sounds callous but freedom of speech is more important than anyones life. People willingly die to keep it.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

Is there a database of gun purchases? Yep. If I get a felony...am I asked if I have any guns? Yep. But you telling me that we can't take one-onemillionth of a sec to run a data check to see if I am lying?

You say we can buy as many magazines as we want...why is that even possible? What need is there? Only place it matters is if you are going to start a war. You going to go up against our govt? Seriously?

Maybe they do check, I've never had a felony but all a person has to say is "I sold them." Good luck proving them wrong.

And good luck controlling magazine purchases. That simply isn't going to happen.

 

[Chivas2infinity]

Nigger in Chicago stole 111 brand-new handguns from a freight train. They've only been able to recover 19 so far. He had been in and out of prison for violent crime, and was a victim of gun violence himself.
Sentence? 10 years. He'll be out in 3.

There's your problem right there. Build more prisons for the violent criminals and crazies. I'll pay more taxes for that. Shit, keep them inside where they can't breed kids who will be on welfare anyway, and save even more money

.http://abc7chicago.com/serial-train...in-gun-thefts-from-chicago-rail-yard/2485318/
It gets even better. One of his bruthas got only 8 years for selling them. Guess what he used to do? Play in the NBA - the Nigger Basketball Association.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...-gun-dealer-sentenced-met-20170914-story.html

 

[AngusBridie]

Build more prisons for the violent criminals and crazies. I'll pay more taxes for that. Shit, keep them inside where they can't breed kids who will be on welfare anyway, and save even more money.

Actually prison is a very profitable industry, you wont need to pay taxes.

 

[zipman]

Comprehensive mental health care, on demand, without apology.

Nothing else will fix this problem.

That's just bullshit.

The US leads the world by a huge margin in mass shootings yet our mental health is the same as theirs.

It's the number and type of guns that are the difference.

 

[Chivas2infinity]

Actually prison is a very profitable industry, you wont need to pay taxes.

FANTASTIC!!! Winner, winner, death row fried chicken dinner!

 

[Chivas2infinity]

Comprehensive mental health care, on demand, without apology.

Nothing else will fix this problem.

Locking up the crazies and violent niggers, especially in Chicago, will definitely solve this country's gun violence problem!

 

[Chivas2infinity]

Funny thing about mass shooting: had dude not killed anyone yesterday, it wouldn't have counted as a mass shooting. Ya gotta kill somebody for it to count. Last year in Chicago, a nigger shot 9 people. All survived. Didn't count as a mass shooting. Drive-bys are an awful way to try to take someone out, apparently.

Here's a good source on Chicago violence:
Http://www.heyjackass.com
Last year's stats:
https://heyjackass.com/category/2017-stats/

 

[nowisthetime]

Unfuckingbeliavable! The excuses the media makes for these punks. Punk murdered 17 people because "his needs weren't being met".

Getting tired of the excuses they make for these THUGS. But he was sane enough to precisely carry out a plan:




The teenager who shot 17 people at his Florida high school on Valentine's Day may have fetal alcoholsyndrome or a similar brain disorder.

Nikolas Cruz, 19, who was adopted as an orphaned child, opened fire a year after he was expelled from school for allegedly getting in a fight.

In the hours since, many have speculated that the boy may have fetal alcohol syndrome given his facial features - a low nasal bridge, small eyes and thin upper lip - and behavior.

Nathalie Brassard, a program director at the non-profit organization FASCETS, which works with parents of FASD children, told Daily Mail Online the association has merit.

'Some of the characteristics suggest that he might have been living with an invisible brain-based condition - it could have been FASD or many others, but this young individual may have been functioning differently,' Brassard said.


'He was kicked out of school because of behavioral issues, and that is something that often happens.'

Canada-based Brassard, who has supported families living with FASD for 20 years, said that Cruz's case echoes many others she has seen of adopted children with brain-based conditions but no clear diagnosis due to lost or unclear paperwork.

'Very often the information is lacking [such as alcohol consumption during pregnancy] so the formal diagnosis of FASD may not come. That's why we use the language of "brain-based conditions" because regardless of why, they have this behavior.'

She added that if Cruz is identified as having a brain-based condition, it should drive us to look at how invisible brain disorders are treated in the justice system and in schools.

'We have to understand that individuals with brain-based conditions cannot do the same things that everyone else can do,' she said.

'Very often the parent or caregiver is trying to accommodate the child because they understand that they function differently to everyone else. Others perceive that they are being too easy on them, but they don't understand that these children need different treatment to prevent them from shutting down, getting upset and frustrated.

'Often we see the person's behavior being purposeful when really it could be language for needs that are not being recognized. They are being asked to do things they cannot do.'

According to Brassard, the issue of whether or not Cruz has FASD facial characteristics is neither here nor there.


'We only see facial characteristics in a minority. In the majority there are no facial characteristics, but they are still functioning differently.

'They may have impaired short term memory, problems with abstract concepts, language and communication issues, behave younger than their age.

Florida shooter may have had fetal alcohol syndrome | Daily Mail Online


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[NerdyGyrl]

It is super sad this happened and rather than grieve for the loss, offer help to the families, the murderer is getting his picture posted all over and it is becoming yet another gun debate.

 

[Dribble]

I just spent the last 30 minutes contacting my US Senators and Representative. I asked for one thing...to start the conversation. Our children, have no say. They don't get to vote. Yet we as adults do nothing to protect them. Do something. Contact your US Congress and House members. Ask for a change. Our children deserve better.

 

[Sean]

I just spent the last 30 minutes contacting my US Senators and Representative. I asked for one thing...to start the conversation. Our children, have no say. They don't get to vote. Yet we as adults do nothing to protect them. Do something. Contact your US Congress and House members. Ask for a change. Our children deserve better.

Fuck all will happen. The NRA paid $3.3 million to buy Rubio. They paid $30 million to buy Trump. Dead kids don't stack up against that kind of cash.

 

[Dribble]

Fuck all will happen. The NRA paid $3.3 million to buy Rubio. They paid $30 million to buy Trump. Dead kids don't stack up against that kind of cash.

You are wrong. Each child is worth more. You can show your apathy...or not. Change happens one person at a time.