5 times the Obama administration helped Russia at the United States’ expense

[TalkRadio]

If Russian President Vladimir Putin really did think a Donald Trump presidency would be good for Russia, the first year of that presidency must be quite the disappointment. There has been no indication that the Trump administration’s policies are influenced by Russian preferences.

Perhaps that’s why some found interesting a recent Daily Beast article claiming Trump National Security Council senior staffer Kevin Harrington recommended withdrawing U.S. troops from Eastern Europe to curry favor with Russia. This, the article states, was “something that smelled, to a colleague, like a return on Russia’s election-time investment in President Trump.”

Sure, it’s the speculation of an anonymous source, but it would be bad, if true. Then the article goes on to say a second anonymous former colleague “noted that Harrington’s proposal was largely politely brushed aside, even at the uniquely chaotic early days of the Trump era.” Oh.

Yes, that was a horrible, dangerous, unbelievably stupid idea. It was also rejected. It never approached the possibility that it could become a reality—unlike all the times people in the Obama administration had ideas about capitulating to the Russians and then those ideas becoming reality.

Link for the list... https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/0...stration-helped-russia-united-states-expense/

 

[phrodeau]

US intel agencies determined that Russia interfered in the US 2016 election. Trump has taken no action to prevent future interference.

Congress imposed sanctions on Russia. Trump has not acted to enforce those sanctions.

If you don't see that as preferential to Russia, they you are blind ignorant.

 

[WoundedKnee]

Link for the list... https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/0...stration-helped-russia-united-states-expense/

I thought the article listed seven.

 

[WoundedKnee]

Sanctions on Russia mean more help for North Korea. Why playDOH! wants North Korea to nuke up, I have no idea.

 

[BotanyBoy]

US intel agencies determined that Russia interfered in the US 2016 election.

No they didn't, they determined that Russia was campaigning for Trump.

Not really the same thing.

When they have proof that Russia hacked the voting machines, skewed the election results or bullied people at the polls, then they will have interfered in the election.

 

[stickygirl]

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/oct/30/facebook-russia-fake-accounts-126-million

Where've you been?

 

[bellisarius]

No they didn't, they determined that Russia was campaigning for Trump.

Not really the same thing.

When they have proof that Russia hacked the voting machines, skewed the election results or bullied people at the polls, then they will have interfered in the election.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/oct/30/facebook-russia-fake-accounts-126-million

Where've you been?

Where have you been? Challenged by the written word it seems.

 

[Hypoxia]

The Russian Defense minister and USA UN ambassador have both declared that Russia is waging war on the US. Giving aid and comfort to an enemy waging war on the US is the Constitutional definition of treason. Thus US citizens now aiding Russia are traitors. Is that logic too difficult to follow?

Note: Those declarations occurred under Tromp, not Obama.

 

[bellisarius]

The Russian Defense minister and USA UN ambassador have both declared that Russia is waging war on the US. Giving aid and comfort to an enemy waging war on the US is the Constitutional definition of treason. Thus US citizens now aiding Russia are traitors. Is that logic too difficult to follow?

Note: Those declarations occurred under Tromp, not Obama.

So Obama and Hillary should go to prison, right?

 

[Hypoxia]

So Obama and Hillary should go to prison, right?

"Note: Those declarations occurred under Tromp, not Obama."

You didn't read that far, eh? Sad.

But now you know of the war. Take care.

 

[bellisarius]

"Note: Those declarations occurred under Tromp, not Obama."

You didn't read that far, eh? Sad.

But now you know of the war. Take care.

So given the OP, Obama and Hillary need to go to prison, right?

 

[Luk]

So given the OP, Obama and Hillary need to go to prison, right?

Do you think that absolves 45 from his own transgressions?

Hillary, emails, Obama, oh my!

 

[coachdb18]

So Obama and Hillary should go to prison, right?

Along with a huge number of their staff that worked furiously against the best interests of the United States...

Since charges of treason will never result in a conviction of either Obama or Hillary, as politics will forever protect them from justice, I think it best that Presidnet Trump give them a Presidential pardon for Treason and Obstruction of Justice, and let them enjoy the 'OJ verdict', as felons on the hoof.

 

[Hypoxia]

Turn yourself in now, traitor.

[more treasonous bullshit]

Tromp has been laundering dirty Russian cash for many years. He is owned by Putin. The hangman is near.

 

[phrodeau]

No they didn't, they determined that Russia was campaigning for Trump.

Not really the same thing.

When they have proof that Russia hacked the voting machines, skewed the election results or bullied people at the polls, then they will have interfered in the election.

Russia hacked the DNC and RNC servers, dumbass.

 

[coachdb18]

Russia hacked the DNC and RNC servers, dumbass.

WSJ reported 'Republican National Committee Security Foiled Russian Hackers'

https://www.wsj.com/articles/republican-national-committee-security-foiled-russian-hackers-1481850043

By Shane Harris, Devlin Barrett and Julian E. Barnes
Dec. 16, 2016 12:27 a.m. ET

Many sources have reported, on the other hand, the at the DNC was hacked by the Russians... here's just one source, take your pick, even the DNC admitted to being hacked, and they did NOTHING ABOUT IT.

Washington Post
'Russian government hackers penetrated DNC, stole opposition research on Trump'

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-penetrated-dnc-stole-opposition-research-on-trump/2016/06/14/cf006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html?utm_term=.28b61d519cad

 

[phrodeau]

WSJ reported 'Republican National Committee Security Foiled Russian Hackers'

https://www.wsj.com/articles/republican-national-committee-security-foiled-russian-hackers-1481850043

By Shane Harris, Devlin Barrett and Julian E. Barnes
Dec. 16, 2016 12:27 a.m. ET

Many sources have reported, on the other hand, the at the DNC was hacked by the Russians... here's just one source, take your pick, even the DNC admitted to being hacked, and they did NOTHING ABOUT IT.

Washington Post
'Russian government hackers penetrated DNC, stole opposition research on Trump'

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-penetrated-dnc-stole-opposition-research-on-trump/2016/06/14/cf006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html?utm_term=.28b61d519cad

So what Russia did was definitely illegal, and not just a way to run a campaign? Thought so.

 

[coachdb18]

So what Russia did was definitely illegal, and not just a way to run a campaign? Thought so.

So which laws did Russia break? Please be specific... Do you plan to 'arrest them' for carrying out a national policy favorable to them? The case is they didn't want Trump, they wanted Hillary, and they had paid good money to the Clinton Foundation to ensure her success and to gain favorable access after her election.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Russia hacked the DNC and RNC servers, dumbass.

Which have nothing to do with the election itself now do they?

 

[phrodeau]

So which laws did Russia break? Please be specific... Do you plan to 'arrest them' for carrying out a national policy favorable to them? The case is they didn't want Trump, they wanted Hillary, and they had paid good money to the Clinton Foundation to ensure her success and to gain favorable access after her election.

’Twas you who posted that the DNC did nothing about it in all caps. What would you expect them to do, pray?

 

[phrodeau]

I see now why they use red for Republicans. All commie sympathizers.

 

[coachdb18]

’Twas you who posted that the DNC did nothing about it in all caps. What would you expect them to do, pray?

No, actually taking into account that Democrats are born stupid, I'd expect them to back a dumbass that put an unsecured server with all their dirty secrets on a server in her bathroom, and then choose not to secure it even when they finally found out they'd been hacked, then whine.

 

[Hypoxia]

I see now why they use red for Republicans. All commie sympathizers.

Naw, they merely follow the roubles.

 

[about_average]

No they didn't, they determined that Russia was campaigning for Trump.

Not really the same thing.

When they have proof that Russia hacked the voting machines, skewed the election results or bullied people at the polls, then they will have interfered in the election.

You don't have to hack election machines, skew election results, or bully people to "interfere" in an election.

When done by a foreign government, inventing and promoting lies that others believe and promote is interfering.
Just because people are so gullible doesn't mean the election process wasn't interfered with.

Additionally, they hacked at least 2 voter registration databases and they are most certainly part of the election systems. In fact they are as critical a piece as the actual voting machines.

WSJ reported 'Republican National Committee Security Foiled Russian Hackers'

https://www.wsj.com/articles/republican-national-committee-security-foiled-russian-hackers-1481850043

By Shane Harris, Devlin Barrett and Julian E. Barnes
Dec. 16, 2016 12:27 a.m. ET

From your link

Investigation calls it a less aggressive and much less persistent effort than the hacks of the Democratic National Committee

So they made a half-hearted attempt on the RNC server.
Apparently that means nothing to you.

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[bellisarius]

You don't have to hack election machines, skew election results, or bully people to "interfere" in an election.

When done by a foreign government, inventing and promoting lies that others believe and promote is interfering.
Just because people are so gullible doesn't mean the election process wasn't interfered with.

Additionally, they hacked at least 2 voter registration databases and they are most certainly part of the election systems. In fact they are as critical a piece as the actual voting machines.


From your linkQUOTE]Investigation calls it a less aggressive and much less persistent effort than the hacks of the Democratic National Committee

So they made a half-hearted attempt on the RNC server.
Apparently that means nothing to you.[/QUOTE]

Actually you DO have to do one or more of those things to 'interfere.' What the Russians did was attempt to 'influence' the election. Nothing new there, with few exceptions the Russians/Soviets have attempted to influence US elections since 1928 with greater or lesser effect. The notion that this is the first time is patently absurd.