Climate continues to change.

[Que]

You've shown an inability to recognize or acknowledge any repudiation when it's set in front of your face. There's no point in trying to explain why your assertion is hopelessly wrong.

how many times in this thread have you participated only to say that somebody is wrong and the reason why you cannot elucidate why they are wrong is because that person is so unaccepting of your brilliant elucidations. I don't think this is excellence in elocution at all, "Dick"

 

[Luk]

I think you maybe better go back to the dispensary for a consultation; this version of stoned Luk is sort of angry, stupid, stoned Luk.

Stoned Luk is far more intelligent, interesting, and cuter than sober Q-Bert.

Do you ever feel better about yourself after making the mistake of trolling me?

 

[Richard_P_Feynman]

how many times in this thread have you participated only to say that somebody is wrong and the reason why you cannot elucidate why they are wrong is because that person is so unaccepting of your brilliant elucidations. I don't think this is excellence in elocution at all, "Dick"

How many times have you been disproved throughout the board only to run away like a scolded animal, never to acknowledge your mistakes, Queef?

 

[Luk]

How many times have you been disproved throughout the board only to run away like a scolded animal, never to acknowledge your mistakes, Queef?

He couldn't just read and comprehend the articles then listen to Johnny. Noooooooo.

 

[phrodeau]

How strange it is that an area rich with mineral resources gets populated by the poorest people. West Virginia stands as proof that trickle-down economics is bullshit.

 

[trysail]

So, you think the historic global temperature records are reliable?

Here's how the temperature records for the ocean (remember, that's 70% of the earth's surface) were compiled.



ERI= Engine room intake
Bucket= (literally) throwing a canvas bucket overboard (I swear to god, I'm not making this up)

https://curryja.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/figure-2.png
Source: Hadley Centre, Climate Research Unit
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadsst3/part_1_figinline.pdf


They haven't got a frickin' clue whether global temperatures are warmer or not.



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[Que]

How strange it is that an area rich with mineral resources gets populated by the poorest people. West Virginia stands as proof that trickle-down economics is bullshit.

you can't even follow basic cause and effect. People found materials to mine this attracted miners. Miners were historically coming from the underclass because it didn't pay very well and was highly dangerous.

AFTER an area gets dotted with ugly looking oil extraction equipment and oil rigs, the value of the surrounding area for residential property goes down making rents and Home Ownership more affordable so impoverished people move there.

different states have different methods for ownership of various things beneath the surface. When you buy real estate in Arizona you're only buying the top layer of dirt whatever is located under that does not belong to you. You acknowledge this when you're buying that top layer of dirt.

 

[Que]

He couldn't just read and comprehend the articles then listen to Johnny. Noooooooo.

go figure. Comprehend is yet another word that you don't seem to understand. Comprehend does not mean agree with. It would be pretty difficult for me to issue a rebuttal to an article that I did not comprehend.

You, on the other hand, have not displayed any comprehension about my rebuttal else you would be able to form a cogent counter-argument. Which you haven't. Which strongly suggests to me that you actually did not understand what I wrote.

I can't know that of course. It's possible that you did fully comprehend what I had to say and are simply unable to articulate what it is that your argument is because of your poor facility with language.

 

[Luk]

go figure. Comprehend is yet another word that you don't seem to understand. Comprehend does not mean agree with. It would be pretty difficult for me to issue a rebuttal to an article that I did not comprehend.

You, on the other hand, have not displayed any comprehension about my rebuttal else you would be able to form a cogent counter-argument. Which you haven't. Which strongly suggests to me that you actually did not understand what I wrote.

I can't know that of course. It's possible that you did fully comprehend what I had to say and are simply unable to articulate what it is that your argument is because of your poor facility with language.

The articles were factual - you didn't comprehend that fact. You then went on an unrelated tangent and claimed "victory". Did you notice that no one addressed your bullshit tangents? Probably not but you just keep on doing what you're doing. Seems to be working out so very well for you.

 

[richard_daily]

So, you think the historic global temperature records are reliable?

Here's how the temperature records for the ocean (remember, that's 70% of the earth's surface) were compiled.



ERI= Engine room intake
Bucket= (literally) throwing a canvas bucket overboard (I swear to god, I'm not making this up)

https://curryja.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/figure-2.png
Source: Hadley Centre, Climate Research Unit
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadsst3/part_1_figinline.pdf


They haven't got a frickin' clue whether global temperatures are warmer or not.



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They haven't got a clue, but you INSIST that you know that they're not rising.

How is that possible?

 

[Richard_P_Feynman]

The articles were factual - you didn't comprehend that fact. You then went on an unrelated tangent and claimed "victory". Did you notice that no one addressed your bullshit tangents? Probably not but you just keep on doing what you're doing. Seems to be working out so very well for you.

But if Que acknowledged his mistakes instead of digging deeper holes, we'd never see such gems of reasoning as This is highly suggested that there are other factors at work that have nothing to do with environmental contaminants. Which is saying that because some other mechanism can produce more significant results in another context, this mechanism is counter-indicated in this context. Que does love his bullshit artistry.

 

[trysail]

"The whole topic [dangerous anthropogenic global warming] has all the speculative qualities of epidemiology and cosmology…..the similarities in the three topics are that they all start with assumptions not founded on evidence, ignore the huge uncertainties in available data and those inherent in the processes used and depend on calculations not based on proven methods for the purpose. Each then makes definitive statements of results, often to extreme degrees of precision."​

-Kip Hansen​

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[Richard_P_Feynman]

Oh, this ought to be fun. Tell me, which parts of cosmology "start with assumptions not founded on evidence, ignore the huge uncertainties in available data and those inherent in the processes used and depend on calculations not based on proven methods for the purpose." (Which is not to say there aren't speculative or hypothetical aspects of theoretical cosmology, but Hansen seems to want to take this as a damnation of the field.)

 

[trysail]

Reassessing biases and other uncertainties in sea-surface temperature observations measured in situ since1850,
part 1: measurement and sampling uncertainties

J. J. Kennedy, N.A. Rayner, R.O. Smith, D.E. Parker, and M. Saunby​

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadsst3/part_1_figinline.pdf


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[Que]

The articles were factual - you didn't comprehend that fact. You then went on an unrelated tangent and claimed "victory". Did you notice that no one addressed your bullshit tangents? Probably not but you just keep on doing what you're doing. Seems to be working out so very well for you.

"The article was factual you don't comprehend that fact."

What does that even mean? Exactly how high are you?

at no point did I dispute the actual facts few that there are that are contained in the article. You do understand there's a difference between actual facts and a speculative conclusion that they are drawing from those facts.

I'm disputing their conclusion for the reasons that I outlined you know those reasons that you are unable to comprehend.

try sales post are full of articles that contain all sorts of facts. The fact that you don't agree with some of those conclusions may or may not have something to do with the fact that you are unable to comprehend those particular fax. But you can still dispute the conclusion while acknowledging the facts that actually are factual.

 

[Luk]

But if Que acknowledged his mistakes instead of digging deeper holes, we'd never see such gems of reasoning as This is highly suggested that there are other factors at work that have nothing to do with environmental contaminants. Which is saying that because some other mechanism can produce more significant results in another context, this mechanism is counter-indicated in this context. Que does love his bullshit artistry.

He'll just talk in circles until we can longer follow his madness. He's still not figured out that I'm English Lady and you're pink.

 

[Que]

But if Que acknowledged his mistakes instead of digging deeper holes, we'd never see such gems of reasoning as This is highly suggested that there are other factors at work that have nothing to do with environmental contaminants. Which is saying that because some other mechanism can produce more significant results in another context, this mechanism is counter-indicated in this context. Que does love his bullshit artistry.

perhaps you'd like to point out a mistake in any of the above so that I can acknowledge it assuming there is one. You won't have any trouble identifying mistake since you know so much about the field right?

 

[Richard_P_Feynman]

perhaps you'd like to point out a mistake in any of the above so that I can acknowledge it assuming there is one. You won't have any trouble identifying mistake since you know so much about the field right?

I just did.

He'll just talk in circles until we can longer follow his madness. He's still not figured out that I'm English Lady and you're pink.

Was that a premonition?

 

[Que]

I just did.



Was that a premonition?

no you didn't you created a strawman and knocked it down. And for your strawman to support itself you have to have an actual mechanism which nothing in the article refer to any particular mechanism. All it is is the same thing as a cancer cluster study.

me pointing out that the article addresses none of the medical communities accepted risk factors for low birth weight babies is not me saying that there can never be some other potential Factor. This is me saying that nothing in that study proves that there is one in this case. without even addressing the obvious variables you have no study.

what does likely was was a fishing Expedition for lawyers that turned up dry. What they were likely looking for where obvious birth defects that they could possibly pin on these companies. Low birth weight is a pretty weak bar to overcome

 

[Richard_P_Feynman]

no you didn't you created a strawman and knocked it down. And for your strawman to support itself you have to have an actual mechanism which nothing in the article refer to any particular mechanism. All it is is the same thing as a cancer cluster study.

me pointing out that the article addresses none of the medical communities accepted risk factors for low birth weight babies is not me saying that there can never be some other potential Factor. This is me saying that nothing in that study proves that there is one in this case. without even addressing the obvious variables you have no study.

what does likely was was a fishing Expedition for lawyers that turned up dry. What they were likely looking for where obvious birth defects that they could possibly pin on these companies. Low birth weight is a pretty weak bar to overcome

He'll just talk in circles until we can longer follow his madness. He's still not figured out that I'm English Lady and you're pink.

Was that a premonition?

 

[Luk]

Was that a premonition?

I am the BEST premonator!

 

[Que]

Was that a premonition?

Sounds like you and Luke had a successful little circle jerk here. Maybe you should go ahead and make a couple of certificates of achievements! I particularly liked the 15 Years of Excellence plaque that you awarded yourself.

 

[Richard_P_Feynman]

Sounds like you and Luke had a successful little circle jerk here. Maybe you should go ahead and make a couple of certificates of achievements! I particularly liked the 15 Years of Excellence plaque that you awarded yourself.

Back to the old standby of gay fantasies and the notion that I = Rob, eh? Thanks for the larf.

 

[Que]

getting back to the subject actually at hand. The national average is 1 out of 12 babies are underweight. This study purports to show this cluster of low birthweight babies that is 25% higher.

This suggests that their data shows that 1 out of 10 were underweight.

That's fairly consistent with most impoverished areas in the country.

Abent any demographic information we can't draw any conclusion. Depending on the demographics that number might actually be lower than what is normally found in that particular demographic. If that were the case the same study could be used to (equally incorrectly) suggesr that fracking prevents slow birth weight.

if they were actually a serious medical study the researchers would have had to have had access to the actual medical records of the mothers in infants in question. Without that this is 100% meaningless.

 

[Richard_P_Feynman]

Que's still trying to cover up his fuck-up. LMAO.