The Police and the Constitution

[Ramone45]

I've been watching videos on YouTube of Police interactions with citizens. Granted, these "first amendment audits" are intended to provoke a police response. However, it is disturbing how the police violate people's constitutional rights with impugnity. They demand ID without reason. They intimidate and bully. They get very upset about being videoed, yet they video the public constantly. They utilize bullshit charges such as disorderly conduct and obstruction of governmental administration. They absolutely do not view themselves as public servants. They make mountains out of molehills. They are extremely egotistical. Many are ignorant of the laws they are sworn to uphold. It's a sad state of affairs.

 

[Unabatable]

I've been watching videos on YouTube of Police interactions with citizens. Granted, these "first amendment audits" are intended to provoke a police response. However, it is disturbing how the police violate people's constitutional rights with impugnity. They demand ID without reason. They intimidate and bully. They get very upset about being videoed, yet they video the public constantly. They utilize bullshit charges such as disorderly conduct and obstruction of governmental administration. They absolutely do not view themselves as public servants. They make mountains out of molehills. They are extremely egotistical. Many are ignorant of the laws they are sworn to uphold. It's a sad state of affairs.

It's inevitably always "a sad state of affairs" when a naive one only looks at things collectively. Like watching a 48-minute episode of a TV show believing it's "reality" when, in actual reality, hours and hours and hours of editing produced the juiciest cuts for lemmings to swallow as "real".

See, in reality, it's not "the police" who are at the fault you levy above, it is simply individual police officers and the few repugnant instances (relatively speaking) sensationalized specifically for eager swallowers like you to gobble down.

Individual police officers in America interact millions of times each day with millions of individual Americans; where are the YouTubes of almost all (relatively speaking) those encounters in which individual police officers are the epitome of professional service and protection?

Yeah, you're not objectively hungry for that reality, right? You'd rather pimp "systematic police corruption" out of those 48-minute totally edited episodes to sate your own limited capacity for actual truth.

Folks like you need to experience reality with no police protection at all - you've become a way-too spoiled little bitch.

 

[Ramone45]

It's inevitably always "a sad state of affairs" when a naive one only looks at things collectively. Like watching a 48-minute episode of a TV show believing it's "reality" when, in actual reality, hours and hours and hours of editing produced the juiciest cuts for lemmings to swallow as "real".

See, in reality, it's not "the police" who are at the fault you levy above, it is simply individual police officers and the few repugnant instances (relatively speaking) sensationalized specifically for eager swallowers like you to gobble down.

Individual police officers in America interact millions of times each day with millions of individual Americans; where are the YouTubes of almost all (relatively speaking) those encounters in which individual police officers are the epitome of professional service and protection?

Yeah, you're not objectively hungry for that reality, right? You'd rather pimp "systematic police corruption" out of those 48-minute totally edited episodes to sate your own limited capacity for actual truth.

Folks like you need to experience reality with no police protection at all - you've become a way-too spoiled little bitch.

Okay, officer.

 

[richard_daily]

The right wing has always been about hierarchy and state power.

This isn't anything new. Police in the US have been abusing their power since their inception about 100 years ago.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

I've been watching videos on YouTube of Police interactions with citizens. Granted, these "first amendment audits" are intended to provoke a police response. However, it is disturbing how the police violate people's constitutional rights with impugnity. They demand ID without reason. They intimidate and bully. They get very upset about being videoed, yet they video the public constantly. They utilize bullshit charges such as disorderly conduct and obstruction of governmental administration. They absolutely do not view themselves as public servants. They make mountains out of molehills. They are extremely egotistical. Many are ignorant of the laws they are sworn to uphold. It's a sad state of affairs.

What you have described is boorish, excessive behavior unbefitting a sworn public peace officer. But NONE of that behavior equates to provable violation of a person's Constitutional rights.

I suspect that is because you know precious little about the Constitution.

 

[Rightguide]

What you have described is boorish, excessive behavior unbefitting a sworn public peace officer. But NONE of that behavior equates to provable violation of a person's Constitutional rights.

I suspect that is because you know precious little about the Constitution.

THE END

 

[Bray123]

I suspect that trying to judge average police / public interactions from 'citizen journalist' clips is much like trying to assess the standard of driving in Europe from Russian compilations.

 

[cowslinger64]

THE END

How lovely...let's play silly semantics.


So police are unconstitutional? Should they be disbanded then?

The Constitution contains no explicit provisions for criminal law enforcement

http://www.constitution.org/lrev/roots/cops.htm

Try responding to point about the police and their sometimes over the top treatment of United States Citizens.

Step outside your bubble every now and then.

 

[Ramone45]

What you have described is boorish, excessive behavior unbefitting a sworn public peace officer. But NONE of that behavior equates to provable violation of a person's Constitutional rights.

I suspect that is because you know precious little about the Constitution.

Well, no. There are a lot of videos of unconstitutional searches. Detaining people without articulating reasonable suspicion of a crime. Giving unlawful orders.

 

[jaF0]

If you go back and watch the old COPS episodes from the first season or two, you will see a remarkable difference in content. I don't know if the producers changed or what, but there is a night and day difference in how the officers perform their jobs.

You'll also get to see Deputy Linda Canada and Officer Desiree Gaudet.

 

[doowdniw]

I suspect that trying to judge average police / public interactions from 'citizen journalist' clips is much like trying to assess the standard of driving in Europe from Russian compilations.

Good one. Apparently the rules of the road are mere suggestions over there.

 

[Rightguide]

How lovely...let's play silly semantics.


So police are unconstitutional? Should they be disbanded then?

The Constitution contains no explicit provisions for criminal law enforcement

http://www.constitution.org/lrev/roots/cops.htm

Try responding to point about the police and their sometimes over the top treatment of United States Citizens.

Step outside your bubble every now and then.

Listen, dummy, Hogan already effectively demolished the assertions of the OP. So, take a nap.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Q: What do you call 100,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?

A: A good start.

 

[cowslinger64]

Listen, dummy, Hogan already effectively demolished the assertions of the OP. So, take a nap.

So you got Nuthin.. Per usual.

 

[Rightguide]

Q: What do you call 100,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?

A: A good start.

Whale shit wannabes.

 

[Rightguide]

So you got Nuthin.. Per usual.

Just enough to consistently make you look like an idiot.

 

[cowslinger64]

Just enough to consistently make you look like an idiot.

Lol.. Yeah right. The next time, will be the first time.

You must be the biggest blowhard at the nursing home.

 

[snugglestruggle]

If a cop pulls you over and asks to see some ID, all you have to do is ask did I commit a crime? Am I suspected of committing a crime? If he says no, you don't have to tell him shit or show an ID, no probably cause to stop you. That goes for road side sobriety checks too.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

If a cop pulls you over and asks to see some ID, all you have to do is ask did I commit a crime? Am I suspected of committing a crime? If he says no, you don't have to tell him shit or show an ID, no probably cause to stop you. That goes for road side sobriety checks too.

... and not be black.

 

[snugglestruggle]

... and not be black.

I have no idea of how well many blacks or others know their rights. I just know when you demonstrate you're not a sheep and demonstrate some knowledge of your rights by asking those 2 questions, 9 times out of 10 they let it drop.

I have to deal with Hero Cops who all think they part of the 4th ID or Rambo and every stop is a potential ISIS Terrorist.

If the cop insists, ask for a supervisor. When he arrives you tell him the same thing. People can get on face book but cant be bothered to know their rights FFS.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

I have no idea of how well many blacks or others know their rights. I just know when you demonstrate you're not a sheep and demonstrate some knowledge of your rights by asking those 2 questions, 9 times out of 10 they let it drop.

I have to deal with Hero Cops who all think they part of the 4th ID or Rambo and every stop is a potential ISIS Terrorist.

If the cop insists, ask for a supervisor. When he arrives you tell him the same thing. People can get on face book but cant be bothered to know their rights FFS.

... and not be black.

 

[jaF0]

If the cop insists, ask for a supervisor.

Black folk duhn bin shot a'fore then. They don't never get fur 'nuff to tell a cop 'I want to see your supervisor'.

 

[Hypoxia]

If a cop pulls you over and asks to see some ID, all you have to do is ask did I commit a crime? Am I suspected of committing a crime? If he says no, you don't have to tell him shit or show an ID, no probably cause to stop you. That goes for road side sobriety checks too.

Incorrect. In all states, if you're driving, you MUST whip out a driver's license, or you'll be tagged for driving without, may have your vehicle impounded, etc. Refuse a sobriety check and you can be be grounded immediately. And some states require that a non-driver or pedestrian produce ID if demanded.

Y'all better have your ID's ready when you drive through a local or state police roadblock, or federal or military checkpoint. Being un-papered and non-pale can put you in line for deportation. That happens.

And produce that ID v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y so you don't get shot. Of course if you're non-pale you might get shot anyway. That happens.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Lots of jailhouse lawyers in this thread.

 

[Rightguide]

Lol.. Yeah right. The next time, will be the first time.

You must be the biggest blowhard at the nursing home.

Way too young for the nursing home, delusional clown. I think you just blow a lot.