Climate continues to change.

[trysail]

What Your Moral Superiors Are Up To

...So -- let the poor freeze in the dark. Doesn't that make you feel really morally superior?​

-Francis Menton
"The Manhattan Contrarian"​

http://manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2017/10/12/what-your-moral-superiors-are-up-to


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[Richard_P_Feynman]

What Your Moral Superiors Are Up To

...So -- let the poor freeze in the dark. Doesn't that make you feel really morally superior?​

-Francis Menton
"The Manhattan Contrarian"​

http://manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2017/10/12/what-your-moral-superiors-are-up-to


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Manhattan Contrarian.

 

[Dudee91]

and yet, no one seems to care

unfortunately...

 

[Libsam]

Hole the Size of Maine Opens in Antarctica Ice

Moore says they are working to understand what is triggering the formation of these holes again after so many years.

The cooling of the warmer ocean water when it reaches the surface may also have a broader impact on the ocean’s temperature, but Moore says outside of local weather effects, scientists aren’t sure what this polynya will mean for Antarctica’s oceans and climate, and whether it is related to climate change.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/news/2017/10/10/antarctic-hole/01-antarctic-hole-modis_so_1km_amsr_6250_2017_0925_1_300.adapt.590.1.jpg

 

[Que]

and yet, no one seems to [/B]care[/B]

Care-lessness is certainly a problem. What are you gonna do? Some people are just care-free and not at all care-full.

 

[thehaircutgirl]

unfortunately...

i forgot about that guy. real upset when his odd advances were rebuffed.

 

[thør]

Hole the Size of Maine Opens in Antarctica Ice

Moore says they are working to understand what is triggering the formation of these holes again after so many years.

The cooling of the warmer ocean water when it reaches the surface may also have a broader impact on the ocean’s temperature, but Moore says outside of local weather effects, scientists aren’t sure what this polynya will mean for Antarctica’s oceans and climate, and whether it is related to climate change.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/news/2017/10/10/antarctic-hole/01-antarctic-hole-modis_so_1km_amsr_6250_2017_0925_1_300.adapt.590.1.jpg

It was gone for 40 years and back the last two years.

 

[thør]

Some of these "fixes" are a bit out there.

 

[trysail]

What's the correct temperature ?




Durable Original Measurement Uncertainty
https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/grid23.jpg?w=720

by Kip Hansen

...Temperatures, in the USA, are reported and recorded in whole degrees Fahrenheit. (Don’t ask why we don’t use the scientific standard. I don’t know). These whole Fahrenheit degree records are then machine converted into Celsius (centigrade) degrees to one decimal place, such as 15.6 °C.

This means that each and every temperature between, for example, 72.5 and 71.5 °F is recorded as 72 °F. (In practice, one or the other of the precisely .5 readings is excluded and the other rounded up or down). Thus an official report for the temperature at the Battery, NY at 12 noon of “72 °F” means, in the real world, that the temperature, by measurement, was found to lie in the range of 71.5 °F and 72.5 °F — in other words, the recorded figure represents a range 1 degree F wide.

In scientific literature, we might see this in the notation: 72 +/- 0.5 °F. This then is often misunderstood to be some sort of “confidence interval”, “error bar”, or standard deviation.

It is none of those things in this specific example of temperature measurements. It is simply a form of shorthand for the actual measurement procedure which is to represent each 1 degree range of temperature as a single integer — when the real world meaning is “some temperature in the range of 0.5 degrees above or below the integer reported”. Any difference of the actual temperature, above or below the reported integer is not an error. These deviations are not “random errors” and are not “normally distributed”...



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[thør]

66% chance of La Nina this winter.

 

[trysail]

https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/paris-climate-agreement-dead-anim1.gif?w=220&h=126&crop=1


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[trysail]

There has been no change in the rate of sea level (which has been rising since the end of the last Ice Age) rise



http://www.climate4you.com/images/SeaLevelSatellites-NEW.gif

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[trysail]

Antarctic Volcano Role in Warming Was Understated
http://www.science20.com/news_staff/antarctic_volcano_role_in_warming_was_understated-228143
See: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2017JB014423/abstract

There is additional evidence a mantle plume, basically a geothermal heat source such as a volcano, is below Antarctica's Marie Byrd Land and it explains a substantial amount of the melting that creates lakes and rivers under the ice sheet.

Mantle plumes are thought to be narrow streams of hot rock rising through Earth's mantle and spreading out like a mushroom cap under the crust. The buoyancy of the material, some of it molten, causes the crust to bulge upward. The theory of mantle plumes was proposed in the 1970s to explain geothermal activity that occurs far from the boundary of a tectonic plate, such as Hawaii and Yellowstone.

The discovery may help explain why the ice sheet collapsed rapidly in an earlier era of rapid climate change, and why it is so unstable today. Antarctica's bedrock is laced with rivers and lakes, the largest of which is the size of Lake Erie. Many lakes fill and drain rapidly, forcing the ice surface thousands of feet above them to rise and fall by as much as 20 feet (6 meters)...


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[Owwee]

Summer, Fall, Winter , Spring that's real climate change and called the four season's, each season is famous for storms and none of this is caused because of cow farts, my car or because the Bill of Rights insures my freedoms and limits government.

So junk science and a controlled media have tried to force the Climate change lie and its exposed as fake and for the tax scam it was.
A way for government to get around its limits and laws for the greater good and planet safety, cue Captain Planet......

Yawn no sale here!

 

[cowslinger64]

I know this will be hard to believe, but Trump or Hannity or Limbaugh often don't know what they're talking about.. That kool-aid is tainted.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/03/climate/us-climate-report.html


WASHINGTON — Directly contradicting much of the Trump administration’s position on climate change, 13 federal agencies unveiled an exhaustive scientific report on Friday that says humans are the dominant cause of the global temperature rise that has created the warmest period in the history of civilization.

 

[trysail]

I know this will be hard to believe, but Trump or Hannity or Limbaugh often don't know what they're talking about.. That kool-aid is tainted.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/03/climate/us-climate-report.html


WASHINGTON — Directly contradicting much of the Trump administration’s position on climate change, 13 federal agencies unveiled an exhaustive scientific report on Friday that says humans are the dominant cause of the global temperature rise that has created the warmest period in the history of civilization.

Now there's something new and different (not!)— the New Yoik Times proselytizing climate pseudoscience!


What You Won't Find In The New National Climate Assessment
by Pat Michaels, Ph.D.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/11/03/what-you-wont-find-in-the-new-national-climate-assessment/

...The second bit of missing information is sufficient to invalidate most of the Assessment’s predictions. It’s a bit more complicated than the first one.

The vertical axis is height (as measured by barometric pressure) and the horizontal axis is temperature change, in degrees C per decade. The solid green line is the observed average of our four sets of vertical sounding data from balloons. You can see that the observed warming rate at the surface (given as the “1000 hPa” on the left axis) is a bit above 0.1⁰C/decade, while the predicted value (1979-2016) is smidge below 0.2⁰C. In other words, in this region, which is extremely important to global climate, almost twice as much warming is being predicted compared to what is measured. This is figure S-2 in the recent Bulleting of the American Meteorological Society report on the climate of 2016.

But the situation gets truly horrific as one goes up in the atmosphere. The models predict that there should have been a huge “hot spot” over the entire tropics, which is a bit less than 40% of the globe’s surface. Halfway up through the atmosphere (by pressure), or at 500 hPa, the predicted warming is also twice what is being observed, and further up, the prediction is for seven times more warming than is being observed.

The importance of this is paramount. The vertical distribution of temperature in the tropics is central to the formation of precipitation. When the difference between the surface and the upper layers is large, surface air is more buoyant, billowing upwards as the cumulonimbus cloud of a heavy thunderstorm. When the difference is less, storm activity is suppressed. As shown on the chart, the difference is supposed to be becoming less and less, which would result in a general tendency for tropical drying. In reality, the opposite is occurring over much of the tropics, which should result in an increase in precipitation, rather than the decrease forecast by the climate models.

Missing the tropical hot spot provokes an additional cascade of errors. A vast amount of the moisture that forms precipitation here originates in the tropics. Getting that wrong trashes the precipitation forecast, with additional downstream consequences, this time for temperature...



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[Richard_P_Feynman]

Now there's something new and different (not!)— Watts Up With That proselytizing climate pseudoscience!


What You Won't Find In The New National Climate Assessment
by Pat Michaels, Ph.D.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/11/03/what-you-wont-find-in-the-new-national-climate-assessment/

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Fixed your post; you're welcome.

 

[cowslinger64]

Now there's something new and different (not!)— the New Yoik Times proselytizing climate pseudoscience!


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If you'd taken one second to look and see the link to the actual study, your post wouldn't look nearly as stupid.

https://science2017.globalchange.gov​

 

[trysail]

That is one helluva correlation, ain't it.

Whaddya think the R-squared is on that baby? About 0.05?




http://www.climate4you.com/images/MSU%20UAH%20GlobalMonthlyTempSince1979%20AndCO2.gif


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[Richard_P_Feynman]

That is one helluva correlation, ain't it.

Whaddya think the R-squared is on that baby? About 0.05?




http://www.climate4you.com/images/MSU%20UAH%20GlobalMonthlyTempSince1979%20AndCO2.gif


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Hey, dickhead, why does your temperature anomaly only go back to 1980?

 

[Que]

Hey, dickhead, why does your temperature anomaly only go back to 1980?

Hey, Dick Fagman, how is it that you've had no specific rebuttals in this thread at all for any scientific matters? Why not just dig out Rob's hackneyed cheat sheet? I mean Rob can't explain any of it in his own words either, but he at least simply links to any of the commonly used liturgical sites that list the hymns for phro's religion.

 

[Richard_P_Feynman]

Piss off, ya panty sniffing loser.

 

[Que]

Piss off, ya panty sniffing loser.

Well if you're disinterested about discussing climate "science," I suppose we could talk about your predilections.

Do you sniff your fingers after you pay a hooker to let you finger her?

 

[Richard_P_Feynman]

Hey, Dick Fagman, how is it that you've had no specific rebuttals in this thread at all for any scientific matters? Why not just dig out Rob's hackneyed cheat sheet? I mean Rob can't explain any of it in his own words either, but he at least simply links to any of the commonly used liturgical sites that list the hymns for phro's religion.

I don't bother giving serious, well-considered responses to those who promulgate climate science disinformation for the same reasons I don't bother giving serious, well-considered responses to young earth creationists. Figure that out, and you'll have answered your own question.

Well if you're disinterested about discussing climate "science," I suppose we could talk about your predilections.

Do you sniff your fingers after you pay a hooker to let you finger her?

That's better.

 

[trysail]

Hey, dickhead, why does your temperature anomaly only go back to 1980?

ROTFLMFAO

Thank you. You just made my day.

I have always been fairly certain that you knew nothing about climate "science." You just proved beyond any shadow of doubt that you are totally ignorant about the topic.

If you weren't so completely and utterly clueless about the subject, you'd know the answer.


Here's a really big hint:

Find out what Global temperature anomaly (UAH MSU) is.​

http://www.climate4you.com/images/MSU%20UAH%20GlobalMonthlyTempSince1979%20AndCO2.gif


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