... and so it goes ...

[RobDownSouth]

If so, then surely unwittingly.

A puss and such a nest do not consciously mix.

ooooh the manly man is tryin' to emasculate me vette-style by calling me a puss.

Your manly testosterone level on a scale of Que-to-10 must be about a 9.

 

[cleaver]

Yes. Adults are responsible for what they post. Threatening hacking is not mere words.

You think they are not serious. Others - including myself - obviously disagree.

If you want to make a stance on free speech perhaps it would be best served in a different example.

If you want to make an argument about policing behavior, perhaps it is best applied to something the community can actually police. This is not one of those instances.

I do know one thing from what I've read - people have been bitching about how the GB has changed for ... well forever.

So I leave you with this thought: the more things change, the more they stay the same.

i should feel schooled, i suppose...
but i do not.

you misconstrue "hacking" to suit your need in this...
attaching some nefarious intent...

i regard it as nothing more nefarious, though perhaps just as insidious,
as what zuckerberg has done with every keystroke ever tapped
on the bookface

the word "hacking" offends you - so... press the report button.

you do not like someone generally...
find offense - press the report button.

you perceive in words (clearly written for all to see)
some threat - press the report button.

you irritate enough people with...
whatever outlier shit you might concoct
and post...
- expect punishment...

we will all fall into line adrina...
eventually...
those who still find some strange interest here.

i accept (and acknowledge above) that this is not the place it once was
... and that what it once was
was nothing like what we might remember...
but that is really not the point...

that the bludgeon has been so obviously unsheathed on the...
"unmoderated" gb
and that because in the instance it swings not your way
the righteous bow down to kiss it
for it obviates them from the burdens of actual discourse...

i can kill a hashtag, or a bb, or an ish, or a brinny
by not allowing it the air to breathe in my world...
mental ignore has proven a better blackjack than almost anything.
but...
if i choose to engage with some individual who... offends me
i do not expect to get a free swing at them...
nor do i expect that they should be, in my...
inability to sway them with right-reason
sent to the corn
for being persuasive, or persistent, or too cunning or just deceptively savvy.

nor do i expect... or desire
laurelmanu to read every fucking offensive post here
and to then sit in subjective judgement
to please the mass...

the chimera of free speech?
nice sentiment... hollow but lofty
this is a porn board - an adult site -
where all kinds of otherwise 'delicate' matters can be hashed about...
presumably...

adults - and all their wiles - not some garden party
or kumbaya drum circle!

i am offended by shit posted here all the time
but will defend - until escorted away -
most idoit's right to bombast so...

the bludgeon is a fickle partner, adrina...
you may "offend" some poor soul grandly some day...
may swing your way...
need to cleanse your past(s)
reboot just to stay...

should that be your choice...

in the meantime, i choose to moderate myself,
with scruple and temperament
and to remain wary of those with whom i interact
for not having the same...

that's adult and proactively more real to this world
than summoning cthulhu to make the bad men go away.

 

[adrina]

i should feel schooled, i suppose...
but i do not.

you misSconstrue "hacking" to suit your need in this...
attaching some nefarious intent...

i regard it as nothing more nefarious, though perhaps just as insidious,
as what zuckerberg has done with every keystroke ever tapped
on the bookface

the word "hacking" offends you - so... press the report button.

you do not like someone generally...
find offense - press the report button.

you perceive in words (clearly written for all to see)
some threat - press the report button.

you irritate enough people with...
whatever outlier shit you might concoct
and post...
- expect punishment...

we will all fall into line adrina...
eventually...
those who still find some strange interest here.

i accept (and acknowledge above) that this is not the place it once was
... and that what it once was
was nothing like what we might remember...
but that is really not the point...

that the bludgeon has been so obviously unsheathed on the...
"unmoderated" gb
and that because in the instance it swings not your way
the righteous bow down to kiss it
for it obviates them from the burdens of actual discourse...

i can kill a hashtag, or a bb, or an ish, or a brinny
by not allowing it the air to breathe in my world...
mental ignore has proven a better blackjack than almost anything.
but...
if i choose to engage with some individual who... offends me
i do not expect to get a free swing at them...
nor do i expect that they should be, in my...
inability to sway them with right-reason
sent to the corn
for being persuasive, or persistent, or too cunning or just deceptively savvy.

nor do i expect... or desire
laurelmanu to read every fucking offensive post here
and to then sit in subjective judgement
to please the mass...

the chimera of free speech?
nice sentiment... hollow but lofty
this is a porn board - an adult site -
where all kinds of otherwise 'delicate' matters can be hashed about...
presumably...

adults - and all their wiles - not some garden party
or kumbaya drum circle!

i am offended by shit posted here all the time
but will defend - until escorted away -
most idoit's right to bombast so...

the bludgeon is a fickle partner, adrina...
you may "offend" some poor soul grandly some day...
may swing your way...
need to cleanse your past(s)
reboot just to stay...

should that be your choice...

in the meantime, i choose to moderate myself,
with scruple and temperament
and to remain wary of those with whom i interact
for not having the same...

that's adult and proactively more real to this world
than summoning cthulhu to make the bad men go away.

Seriously? Believe it or not, the only reporting I do is on Hash's multiple re-registrations. Sorry to mess with your whole narrative.

Speaking of maturity... grow up. Sorry, not sorry.

Lecture someone else.

Hacking is serious. Regardless if you don't feel it is. Your ignorance is not my problem.

Enough already.

 

[jezzilee]

Ya know I really believe in live and let live but...wtf, argue the post and not the poster.

I am done on that venue because some are here merely to antagonize others into name calling and stupidity.

 

[silver gurl]

Honestly, I couldn’t give a fuck if someone hacked me here. Nothing to hide.

 

[LIVINRFANTASIES]

Denny

and so it goes

Another day another group of words
words that mean a lot
Words that mean nothing
The dinner table calls
If what my wife cooked doesn't kill me
I'll watch some TV
The commercials should keep me awake.

and so it goes

The GB is now a better place.

 

[Froya]

Honestly, I couldn’t give a fuck if someone hacked me here. Nothing to hide.

Having nothing to hide isn't protection from some nutcase finding out where you live and showing up on your doorstep, or your job, or finding fun, long-distance ways to fuck with your life.

 

[cleaver]

Clearly, you experience and remember Lit differently than most.

Which is all good and fine, as all put in and take away what they do.




What everyone (and by everyone I mean the ones whining) forgets is that we are all guests here. Our gracious hosts are not unreasonable in expecting all to behave like adults, and have even clearly posted some guidelines and rules to deal with the stuff they consider rule-worthy. How they choose to enforce these rules is at their discretion.

As guests, we should be appreciative of the boards and what they provide, and respect the few rules clearly there for all to see.

Or you can leave. Nothing is keeping any of us here, and I'm sure you'll be refunded - in full - every $ you paid for your membership here, should you find the place, the owners, or their rules a poor cultural fit.

Ironically, the guests whining the most about how the rules are enforced are usually the same folks who constantly piss in the host's ashtrays, shit on their carpet, and complain about the salmon pâté.

Nothing is preventing any of you from striking out on your own, and starting your own unmoderated, internet bastion of free-speech, free from rules and censorship.


We are guests here, of Laurel and Manu.
Their house, their rules. If you don't like it, there is nothing preventing you from leaving.

e,
you made great and persistent sport
of bashing hash with a relish and glee rarely seen here...

it was not without its great entertainment value...

it was also...
obsessive
compulsive
trollish
and inordinate...

he/she/it fought valiantly and compulsively...
until it broke...
forgetting that "all in good sport" meant...
hmmmmm?

what did it mean?

does your wife/dog/hamster/rumpled poster of farrah fawcett
know how much time and energy and devotion
you dumped into your
paki punching project?

we saw it. the paki broke from it...
and i suppose you "win" without threat of any consequence...

not spreading judgements, but...
there is context... and in the r/l... possible consequence....

make the bad paki go away - a button press away...
away from here...

but as someone once said...
there may be complicity in enabling such a beating to continue
and further complicity in whatever form its consequences might take.

a hornet's nest to own such a place...
close the boards
cleanse them...

we are not guests.
we are potential lawsuits and sticky ramifications...

we are also the lifeblood of the enterprise...
giving freely our written product and thoughts...

hmmmmm?

 

[jezzilee]

Honestly, I couldn’t give a fuck if someone hacked me here. Nothing to hide.

I really don't even care. Ask me. I will tell you where I will be tomorrow. I have no fear.

 

[cleaver]

Honestly, I couldn’t give a fuck if someone hacked me here. Nothing to hide.

sweetheart,
i'd hack you in a second
if i wasn't convinced that my innate charm
could not still do the trick...

i suppose that could be construed as a threat in some circles...

 

[cleaver]

Is name calling now a bannable offense? You’re all just a bunch of poopy heads!

i'm gonna hack u too!

 

[AngusBridie]

Ironically, the guests whining the most about how the rules are enforced are usually the same folks who constantly piss in the host's ashtrays, shit on their carpet, and complain about the salmon pâté.

.

Remember the good ole days when you could pee in ice cube trays, ya know, before refrigerators with ice makers.

 

[silver gurl]

Having nothing to hide isn't protection from some nutcase finding out where you live and showing up on your doorstep, or your job, or finding fun, long-distance ways to fuck with your life.

Really, not worried about it. Nothing to fuck with here.

 

[silver gurl]

sweetheart,
i'd hack you in a second
if i wasn't convinced that my innate charm
could not still do the trick...

i suppose that could be construed as a threat in some circles...

Hack away!

You have always been a good one in my book.

 

[silver gurl]

I really don't even care. Ask me. I will tell you where I will be tomorrow. I have no fear.

Ditto, Ms. Jezzi.

 

[jezzilee]

Ditto, Ms. Jezzi.

Please know, I have been hacked, I have beeen on the receiving end of ...ask in pvt i will tell. No big deal anymore. I am not afraid because that is how I choose to live my life. I love to share. I love showing my part of the world to others and am going to again because....Fall.

 

[Aquagal]

i'm gonna hack u too!

I’ll take the charms instead.

 

[coachdb18]

i should feel schooled, i suppose...
but i do not.

you misconstrue "hacking" to suit your need in this...
attaching some nefarious intent...

i regard it as nothing more nefarious, though perhaps just as insidious,
as what zuckerberg has done with every keystroke ever tapped
on the bookface

the word "hacking" offends you - so... press the report button.

you do not like someone generally...
find offense - press the report button.

you perceive in words (clearly written for all to see)
some threat - press the report button.

you irritate enough people with...
whatever outlier shit you might concoct
and post...
- expect punishment...

we will all fall into line adrina...
eventually...
those who still find some strange interest here.

i accept (and acknowledge above) that this is not the place it once was
... and that what it once was
was nothing like what we might remember...
but that is really not the point...

that the bludgeon has been so obviously unsheathed on the...
"unmoderated" gb
and that because in the instance it swings not your way
the righteous bow down to kiss it
for it obviates them from the burdens of actual discourse...

i can kill a hashtag, or a bb, or an ish, or a brinny
by not allowing it the air to breathe in my world...
mental ignore has proven a better blackjack than almost anything.
but...
if i choose to engage with some individual who... offends me
i do not expect to get a free swing at them...
nor do i expect that they should be, in my...
inability to sway them with right-reason
sent to the corn
for being persuasive, or persistent, or too cunning or just deceptively savvy.

nor do i expect... or desire
laurelmanu to read every fucking offensive post here
and to then sit in subjective judgement
to please the mass...

the chimera of free speech?
nice sentiment... hollow but lofty
this is a porn board - an adult site -
where all kinds of otherwise 'delicate' matters can be hashed about...
presumably...

adults - and all their wiles - not some garden party
or kumbaya drum circle!

i am offended by shit posted here all the time
but will defend - until escorted away -
most idoit's right to bombast so...

the bludgeon is a fickle partner, adrina...
you may "offend" some poor soul grandly some day...
may swing your way...
need to cleanse your past(s)
reboot just to stay...

should that be your choice...

in the meantime, i choose to moderate myself,
with scruple and temperament
and to remain wary of those with whom i interact
for not having the same...

that's adult and proactively more real to this world
than summoning cthulhu to make the bad men go away.

As for myself, I put Adrina (and a few others) on ignore awhile back. I already have a puppy that is enough to chase around providing clear direction to, and occasionally cleaning up after, and just didn't need her constant banal shit storm, and her 'feelings' finger constantly poised on the *report* button for the fact of my very existence.

Too many fucking 'therapy dogs' and 'feelings coloring books' make the GB a kiddie playpen, not an adult playground.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Isn't it great that we post on a message board where doxxing and hacking is held to be no more harmful than calling someone names?

Isn't it great to have your personal information spewed around here just because someone is offended by your position, statements or just the fact that you exist?

I've been here 15 years. In that time, I've been doxxed by

• Hanns (employment)
• Miles (kids, in-laws)
• "Karen Kraft" (kids, siblings, in-laws)
• Ishmael (he's got an entire dossier)
• One of Que's alts (employment)

...all because they disagree with me.

They can't shut me up and won't put me on ignore.

 

[cleaver]

just to be clear on this...
there is a difference within the tech community
between "hacking" and "security hacking"...
they do not mean the same thing...

In computing, a hacker is any skilled computer expert that uses their technical knowledge to overcome a problem. While "hacker" can refer to any computer programmer, the term has become associated in popular culture with a "security hacker", someone who, with their technical knowledge, uses bugs or exploits to break into computer systems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker

it is not potato/potahdoh
it is potato/rutabega

but hack away, as you will...
you have almost molded the new era into a "win"

the smoke signals send news
of an
"i saved the gb" tee shirt
awarded to the vigilantes
who bag the 10th ban-able offender...

~ index fingers at the ready? ~

as to doxxing, rob...
your tenure here should have taught you
early on
that one's privacy
is directly impacted
by the personal info one chooses to divulge...

it is the potential price of your free speech here...

here is a nugget:
early on, i became a fervent advocate for internet free speech
having been frivolously sued for critically posting...
( it was a seminal case in its day and... the rulings in it maintain)

well aware of the methods, and pitfalls and consequences
for exercising one's voice in this medium...
and understand that the term "free" in this type of speech
has to do with one's freedom to express oneself
but does not free one from any potential consequence of that expression...

doxxing is not new -
it's just sam spade work dressed in electrons...
one should expect to potentially be subject to what they might elicit...
...and you, of all here rob, should be quite (hands on) familiar with...
these wiles
and methods
and practices..., no?

so.
laurelmanu has rules.
their place. their rules.
it is undeniable that a new, more aggressive moderation is pervading the gb...
an "unmoderated" gb...
and that the effect has been that:
...certain personalities have been publicly culled
...other outliers have become emboldened...
questioning and challenging the application of these rules
...some who have been silent for some time - emerge from lurk to...express on this
...others have given up - given up over time - and have moved on
and...
cadres of "victims" and #metoos crow in their... "win"

as the wild, wacky, open... and always -as advertised- dangerous gb
becomes...

hmmmmm?


alternately,
what better way to stir the embers
of a board that has become fat
and combative
and relatively stagnant...
than by fucking with the...
'comfort' level?

regardless...
the gb is a lesser place without the iconic
(oft irritating)
voices...

the gb never was
(nor will it ever be... despite all ministrations)
a "safe space"

that's just the distilled fact.

 

[daimoniotica]

To put it even simpler:

A "hacker" is one who hacks into something to see and understand how something works in the spirit of learning and making things work better, without even an ounce of malicious intent whatsoever.

A "cracker" is one who hacks into something with nothing but malicious intent.

 

[Aglaopheme]

cadres of "victims" and #metoos crow in their... "win"

So, we finally get to the bottom of your endless bitching. Poor fella.

 

[cleaver]

So, we finally get to the bottom of your endless bitching. Poor fella.

yeah.
that's pretty much me.

could have kept it
just that succinct.

thanks for the pretty flower.

 

[Wordsworth]

To put it even simpler:

A "hacker" is one who hacks into something to see and understand how something works in the spirit of learning and making things work better, without even an ounce of malicious intent whatsoever.

A "cracker" is one who hacks into something with nothing but malicious intent.

You misunderstand the etymology of the word hacker. It has nothing to do with hacksaws or hacking apart of something other than maybe hacking the last few paragraphs off of one article from last week and taping it to the article you're constructing this week.

Hacker comes from hack as in hack writer : somebody who reuses bits and pieces such as shots rang out," or " a dog parked in the distance," and other stock, canned phrases in order to compose a bit of writing.

A hack is a shortcut. The modern equivalent would be a cheat code.

Hacking is nothing more than having bits of code that you use for this purpose, or that, without having to write the entire thing from scratch every time. The hacking community traded these bits of code so that everyone didn't have to reinvent the wheel.

 

[zipman]

just to be clear on this...
there is a difference within the tech community
between "hacking" and "security hacking"...
they do not mean the same thing...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker

it is not potato/potahdoh
it is potato/rutabega

but hack away, as you will...
you have almost molded the new era into a "win"

the smoke signals send news
of an
"i saved the gb" tee shirt
awarded to the vigilantes
who bag the 10th ban-able offender...

~ index fingers at the ready? ~

as to doxxing, rob...
your tenure here should have taught you
early on
that one's privacy
is directly impacted
by the personal info one chooses to divulge...

it is the potential price of your free speech here...

here is a nugget:
early on, i became a fervent advocate for internet free speech
having been frivolously sued for critically posting...
( it was a seminal case in its day and... the rulings in it maintain)

well aware of the methods, and pitfalls and consequences
for exercising one's voice in this medium...
and understand that the term "free" in this type of speech
has to do with one's freedom to express oneself
but does not free one from any potential consequence of that expression...

doxxing is not new -
it's just sam spade work dressed in electrons...
one should expect to potentially be subject to what they might elicit...
...and you, of all here rob, should be quite (hands on) familiar with...
these wiles
and methods
and practices..., no?

so.
laurelmanu has rules.
their place. their rules.
it is undeniable that a new, more aggressive moderation is pervading the gb...
an "unmoderated" gb...
and that the effect has been that:
...certain personalities have been publicly culled
...other outliers have become emboldened...
questioning and challenging the application of these rules
...some who have been silent for some time - emerge from lurk to...express on this
...others have given up - given up over time - and have moved on
and...
cadres of "victims" and #metoos crow in their... "win"

as the wild, wacky, open... and always -as advertised- dangerous gb
becomes...

hmmmmm?


alternately,
what better way to stir the embers
of a board that has become fat
and combative
and relatively stagnant...
than by fucking with the...
'comfort' level?

regardless...
the gb is a lesser place without the iconic
(oft irritating)
voices...

the gb never was
(nor will it ever be... despite all ministrations)
a "safe space"

that's just the distilled fact.

They didn't get banned for being "irritating." They were banned for breaking the rules repeatedly.

What part of that don't you understand?