It's a simple Question

[snugglestruggle]

What if this guy, just like the DC shooter (who wanted to kill Republicans) fell hook, line and sinker for the Trump and his supporters are the problem with America. It's been the non stop narrative from the alt left media and Democrats since the election.

Was this weekends Las Vegas massacre the coming home to roost moment?

 

[Liar]

Would that make you a happy little camper, if you could pin this tragedy on lefties and Dems?

 

[snugglestruggle]

I think nothing good will come out of what happened. The people are still dead, the wounded are still wounded. and lives are forever changed. Until it's understood why people do these things, they will continue to happen.

A good first step would be politicians to stop using tragedies for political purposes. Every time there is a mass shooting the Dems don't wait for the body's to get to room temp before trying to capitalize on the emotions to push the gun control narrative . That is just foul.

 

[DrDelirium]

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. If he does prove to be a radicalized anti-Trumpster, there are those who will laud him as our generation's John Brown. In fact, Haley Geftman-Gold already started that ball rolling in advance of any facts.
Too many Americans are eager for conflict, and all too sure that their side will prevail when it comes simply because they are 'right.' Sadly, I don't think that even a dozen incidents of this scale, that are proven to be political acts from one side or both, will cause these people to take a step back and reflect. Their normalcy bias assures them that nothing like Syria or the Ukraine or even Argentina can happen here, and they are unlikely to stop until it does.

 

[Noor]

I once had someone, a SO's colleague, ask me if I ever just wanted to run people over like at a bus stop? This is while we were helping him move.
I told him no, why did he, and he said sometimes. I asked people you know? (while moving toward the exit) and he said no, just anonymous people.
As far as I know, he never did anything of the sort, he did realize it was really messed up and was in therapy and a hospital for a bit. From what I have heard he is doing ok. It still freaks me out. I never have thoughts like that.

Maybe that is what the shooter had, weird thoughts that he unfortunately acted on.
So far the only tie I have heard about to Vegas was he was a serious gambler and to country music, he was a fan.

I hope they do a complete autopsy including his brain and complete toxicology reports. It sounded like he was a verbally abusive jerk to his girlfriend, at least recently.

Maybe he was just a angry messed up man who decided he had a enough, and that venue was convenient to go out with a bang, and do death by cop.

if he had an agenda, it would be nice to know.

 

[about_average]

A good first step would be politicians to stop using tragedies for political purposes. Every time there is a mass shooting the Dems don't wait for the body's to get to room temp before trying to capitalize on the emotions to push the gun control narrative . That is just foul.

I guess you missed the shooting of Rep. Steve Scalise and others in Alexandria, Virginia and the Right wailing about the "hateful rhetoric".

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I think it's too soon to discuss his motivations. We have no idea what they were.



Well, the FBI might. They've spent pretty much a year trying to prove the Trump-Russia connection and still have found nothing, but within 48 hours they announced that this had nothing to do with Islam...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. If he does prove to be a radicalized anti-Trumpster, there are those who will laud him as our generation's John Brown. In fact, Haley Geftman-Gold already started that ball rolling in advance of any facts.
Too many Americans are eager for conflict, and all too sure that their side will prevail when it comes simply because they are 'right.' Sadly, I don't think that even a dozen incidents of this scale, that are proven to be political acts from one side or both, will cause these people to take a step back and reflect. Their normalcy bias assures them that nothing like Syria or the Ukraine or even Argentina can happen here, and they are unlikely to stop until it does.

Where the fuck is Angie with her prove anyone thinks like that-lament.

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

His brother was interviewed on the news. He said that his brother was not religious and not political. He mentioned that the only thing that would make sense was if his brother had a brain tumor affecting his mental faculties.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Ees nawt a two-more.







I'm partial to the recently radicalized conspiracy theory...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I wonder if the FBI pronounced not Islam so quickly because they wanted the girlfriend to feel safe enough to return?

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[Hypoxia]

I think I'll take the same approach as with the asshole who shot John Lennon. Don't mention his name. Just call him the asshole.

So the asshole in Vegas shot hundreds of folks in a country music festival. He'd apparently setup for a different assault the week before, to attack a rap festival. He'd rented a few condos around that event but obviously called it off.

So: The asshole liked neither rap-loving n!ggers nor shitkicker-loving honkies. Would either crowd be attractive targets for ISIS or antifa or the KKK? Was it a false-flag attack? Was the asshole really KGB or some other intel service? Was he mind-controlled? Will we ever know?

 

[BigBeeB]

The LV Sheriff said he was radicalized!

The FBI cant be trusted

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You never answered my question. It was a simple question since you stated that every single gun owner, member of the NRA and Trump voter were responsible and culpable for this event, so considering the nature of the crowd, which was, for the most part, largely a part of that group...


Did they get what they deserved?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The LV Sheriff said he was radicalized!

The FBI cant be trusted

Don't worry.

The Sheriff will change his tune under immense pressure and then when the spotlight goes away, he will be quietly canned.

:nods:

The guy was a Neo-Nazi. Are you not reading the posts of the people who know everything?

 

[Rightguide]

What if this guy, just like the DC shooter (who wanted to kill Republicans) fell hook, line and sinker for the Trump and his supporters are the problem with America. It's been the non stop narrative from the alt left media and Democrats since the election.

Was this weekends Las Vegas massacre the coming home to roost moment?

This might very well turn out to be a Democrat/media inspired mass killing of alleged Trump supporters by a Bernie or Hillary supporter. It will be a while prying that information from the authorities if it exists. Katie bar the door if it's true.

 

[ryan8558]

This might very well turn out to be a Democrat/media inspired mass killing of alleged Trump supporters by a Bernie or Hillary supporter. It will be a while prying that information from the authorities if it exists. Katie bar the door if it's true.

So now Trump's justice department is going to hide evidence of this?

 

[about_average]

This might very well turn out to be a Democrat/media inspired mass killing of alleged Trump supporters by a Bernie or Hillary supporter. It will be a while prying that information from the authorities if it exists. Katie bar the door if it's true.

It might very well turn out he was an ardent Trump supporter who wanted to defame democrats so much that he created a false trail back to them. Willing to sacrifice a few other Trump supporters in order to destroy the Democratic party.

 

[Rightguide]

So now Trump's justice department is going to hide evidence of this?

With the exception of Jeff Sessions Trump's DOJ is still Obama's DOJ as is the FBI. The Las Vegas political force is dominated by Democrats. That is not to say the information will not eventually be made public if it exists.

We've already had one Democrat attempting to kill many Republican members of Congress. Who's to say there aren't others so motivated by the constant demonization of Republicans, Trump, and his supporters by the Democrats, the media, and the left in general?

 

[Rightguide]

It might very well turn out he was an ardent Trump supporter who wanted to defame democrats so much that he created a false trail back to them. Willing to sacrifice a few other Trump supporters in order to destroy the Democratic party.

True, but are those odds better than the other?

 

[phrodeau]

He was a regular full-blooded American shooting and killing other Americans. There's no political motive that makes any sense.

There's nothing liberal or conservative about Clark County. There's nothing liberal or conservative about attending a country music concert. There's nothing liberal or conservative about being outside late at night.

 

[zipman]

I think nothing good will come out of what happened. The people are still dead, the wounded are still wounded. and lives are forever changed. Until it's understood why people do these things, they will continue to happen.

A good first step would be politicians to stop using tragedies for political purposes. Every time there is a mass shooting the Dems don't wait for the body's to get to room temp before trying to capitalize on the emotions to push the gun control narrative . That is just foul.

I don't recall you objecting when the right wing used Pulse and other terrorist attacks to call for and support the muslim ban.

Then it was fine to politicize an event.

 

[about_average]

True, but are those odds better than the other?

Nope, both scenarios are equally asinine.

 

[ifrtbttrflys]

I wish the killer would've occupied this thread instead of the Mandalay Bay and did his deed on these 23 posts instead of 59 innocent lives.

 

[sr71plt]

You never answered my question. It was a simple question since you stated that every single gun owner, member of the NRA and Trump voter were responsible and culpable for this event, so considering the nature of the crowd, which was, for the most part, largely a part of that group...


Did they get what they deserved?

To respond to your question, even if your totally unsubstantiated premise was correct, the overriding issue would remain as what should be discussed/changed--the rampant and totally nonsensical availability to the public of weapons of quick and mass extinction that the NRA and the Republican legislators the NRA owns have been stonewalling on.