Las Vegas shooting

[LadyFunkenstein]

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Adrian Murfitt RIP

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Dorene Anderson RIP (and hubby)


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Robert McIntosh - three to the chest and one in the arm, expected to survive.





It's a strange thing when you have a connection of sorts to two out of three random people. Yeah, it's a small town, but still......

+1, Great post. Thanks for humanizing this. We all tend to deep dive into arguing, bypassing the actual victims.

 

[ToucheAmore]

You'll no doubt be attending each one of them to actually show how much MORE you care rather than just pimp yourself as doing so on an Internet forum, right wannabe?

i see you capitalized "internet" which makes sense since you're just a wee pecker typing furiously and the INTERNET gives you the muscles.

 

[coachdb18]

How nice for you. What a pleasant Shangri-La you must live in.

But I would be very surprised if it was once a nation tamed from a harsh and itself sometimes violent frontier that became a substantial world power through revolution that has been forced to protect itself throughout its history through armed violence.

You don't just sweep all that away by saying, "We're going to change all the rules now. Kumbaya."

According to NationMaster, you're 25% more likely to be a crime victim in the UK than in the US, more than twice as likely to be an assault victim (rates are 2.8% vs 1.2%), and more than twice as likely to be raped in the UK (0.9%) than in the US (0.4%), when ranked per 100,000 people. While the US is very concerned with it's drug problems, the US only ranks 41st in the word for drug offenses, vs 2nd for the UK (drug offenses rank 327 time higher in the UK than in the US). You're twice as likely to be a victim of robbery in the UK (1.2% in the UK, vs 0.6% in the US).

 

[Aglaopheme]

Through fascism

I believe in civility.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

I believe in civility.

As do I but not at the point of a gun.

 

[ToBeSuffered]

The UN is pretty much full of shit.

Ishmael

With that articulateness, you may get an appointment in the once-White-now-fecal-coloured-house.

 

[lickitandstickit]

https://youtu.be/4gjjkcVIoys

 

[butters]

littering counts as a crime, laying a hand on someone who doesn't wish to be touched can be classed as assault. of course there are real and violent crimes in the UK, but when all minor offenses are lumped together as 'statistics', they don't accurately reflect the kind of criminality that would warrant gun-ownership. and the UK has very very few shootings, fatal or otherwise, compared to america.

when a row gets heated, like a 'domestic' or a set to with a neighbour, especially involving alcohol, how easy is it for someone to reach for a gun and cause lethal damage in places like america? in the UK, in a bar, they might reach for a glass or bottle to smash, or a pool cue to wield, or resort to fists - potentially lethal, but far less likely to be. still ugly, still criminal, but far less likely to result in the death of a participant.

 

[irksomesauce]

I believe in baby killing

Fyp; yw.

 

[coachdb18]

...or maybe the US should just take out the crime stats for the 5 biggest inner cities, and 'norm' the stats the way the UK does, where they are so 'peaceful' that rape has to be done with somebody else's dick? They may not shoot you, but their assaults with a cricket bat are phenomenal!

 

[ToucheAmore]

According to NationMaster, you're 25% more likely to be a crime victim in the UK than in the US, more than twice as likely to be an assault victim (rates are 2.8% vs 1.2%), and more than twice as likely to be raped in the UK (0.9%) than in the US (0.4%), when ranked per 100,000 people. While the US is very concerned with it's drug problems, the US only ranks 41st in the word for drug offenses, vs 2nd for the UK (drug offenses rank 327 time higher in the UK than in the US). You're twice as likely to be a victim of robbery in the UK (1.2% in the UK, vs 0.6% in the US).

100% of the 58 dead were killed by a whacked-out gun-happy asshole. Quit trying to deflect the blame and stand up for your fellow Americans for once.

 

[butters]

100% of the 58 dead were killed by a whacked-out gun-happy asshole. Quit trying to deflect the blame and stand up for your fellow Americans for once.

he's a cunt


and i know i'd far rather be robbed than shot

 

[coachdb18]

100% of the 58 dead were killed by a whacked-out gun-happy asshole. Quit trying to deflect the blame and stand up for your fellow Americans for once.

There are over 2000 gun control laws on the books that, if gun control laws could save people, should have prevented this. They didn't. Do you honestly believe making it 2001, it would make a difference?

And I have spent an entire career 'standing up for my fellow Americans', took an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution, and went into more than my share of shitholes in a US uniform... For once you say? Try for YEARS! What have YOU done?

 

[RobDownSouth]

There are over 2000 gun control laws on the books that, if gun control laws could save people, should have prevented this. They didn't. Do you honestly believe making it 2001, it would make a difference?

And I have spent an entire career 'standing up for my fellow Americans', took an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution, and went into more than my share of shitholes in a US uniform... For once you say? Try for YEARS! What have YOU done?

How many of the enemy did YOU kill, hero boi?
Or were you a "combat meteorologist" like Brother Halfbreed?

 

[ToucheAmore]

There are over 2000 gun control laws on the books that, if gun control laws could save people, should have prevented this. They didn't. Do you honestly believe making it 2001, it would make a difference?

And I have spent an entire career 'standing up for my fellow Americans', took an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution, and went into more than my share of shitholes in a US uniform... For once you say? Try for YEARS! What have YOU done?

cool story bro. plenty of combat veterans on the internet how about just make the gun-laws enforceable and take the NRA out of the pockets of politicians?

 

[Aglaopheme]

As do I but not at the point of a gun.

Agreed. The suggestions in that article would be a great start.

littering counts as a crime, laying a hand on someone who doesn't wish to be touched can be classed as assault. of course there are real and violent crimes in the UK, but when all minor offenses are lumped together as 'statistics', they don't accurately reflect the kind of criminality that would warrant gun-ownership. and the UK has very very few shootings, fatal or otherwise, compared to america.

when a row gets heated, like a 'domestic' or a set to with a neighbour, especially involving alcohol, how easy is it for someone to reach for a gun and cause lethal damage in places like america? in the UK, in a bar, they might reach for a glass or bottle to smash, or a pool cue to wield, or resort to fists - potentially lethal, but far less likely to be. still ugly, still criminal, but far less likely to result in the death of a participant.

He was cherry picking.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime

 

[Aglaopheme]

Fyp; yw.

You really should have gone with tiresomedrivel after the last hammer drop.

 

[coachdb18]

...how about just make the gun-laws enforceable and take the NRA out of the pockets of politicians?

making gun laws 'enforceable' requires a gun... unless you want to throw a wad of paper at a man armed with a gun and an attitude? I conceal carry... and I'm a supporter of the NRA, and a Life member of same. Protecting the 2nd Amendment is important.

 

[irksomesauce]

littering counts as a crime, laying a hand on someone who doesn't wish to be touched can be classed as assault. of course there are real and violent crimes in the UK, but when all minor offenses are lumped together as 'statistics', they don't accurately reflect the kind of criminality that would warrant gun-ownership. and the UK has very very few shootings, fatal or otherwise, compared to america.

when a row gets heated, like a 'domestic' or a set to with a neighbour, especially involving alcohol, how easy is it for someone to reach for a gun and cause lethal damage in places like america? in the UK, in a bar, they might reach for a glass or bottle to smash, or a pool cue to wield, or resort to fists - potentially lethal, but far less likely to be. still ugly, still criminal, but far less likely to result in the death of a participant.

Yet, just like the US, intentionally and tortuously killing one's own innocent and defenseless unborn baby isn't a crime at all in Great Britain, as the more than 200K cold-bloodedly murdered last year factually attest.

And limey's are more than 25% more blood thirsty with their abortions, intentionally and tortuously kill 1 out of every 5 of the youngest and most innocent and defenseless conceived among them (20.2%), while Yanks settle for just intentionally killing their most vulnerable at a 14.9% (per 1000 women) clip.

Isn't it progressively perfect that those on the GB who constantly need to self-proclaim loudest how much they care about human life...

...are the very ones who champion the intentional and tortuous killing of the most precious of all innocent and defenseless human life?

cough ~ buttwipes ~ cough

 

[KimGordon67]

According to NationMaster, you're 25% more likely to be a crime victim in the UK than in the US, more than twice as likely to be an assault victim (rates are 2.8% vs 1.2%), and more than twice as likely to be raped in the UK (0.9%) than in the US (0.4%), when ranked per 100,000 people. While the US is very concerned with it's drug problems, the US only ranks 41st in the word for drug offenses, vs 2nd for the UK (drug offenses rank 327 time higher in the UK than in the US). You're twice as likely to be a victim of robbery in the UK (1.2% in the UK, vs 0.6% in the US).

Nice try, but a quick check shows that the ten US states with the highest levels of violent crime have completely variable rates of gun ownership - there's no apparent correlation. So let's assume those national variations are explained by some other factor.

 

[KimGordon67]

Agreed. The suggestions in that article would be a great start.




He was cherry picking.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime

... And confusing correlation with causation.

 

[KimGordon67]

making gun laws 'enforceable' requires a gun... unless you want to throw a wad of paper at a man armed with a gun and an attitude? I conceal carry... and I'm a supporter of the NRA, and a Life member of same. Protecting the 2nd Amendment is important.

I feel safer already ... you should threaten to break my arm again just to seal the deal.

 

[Emerson40]

According to NationMaster, you're 25% more likely to be a crime victim in the UK than in the US, more than twice as likely to be an assault victim (rates are 2.8% vs 1.2%), and more than twice as likely to be raped in the UK (0.9%) than in the US (0.4%), when ranked per 100,000 people. While the US is very concerned with it's drug problems, the US only ranks 41st in the word for drug offenses, vs 2nd for the UK (drug offenses rank 327 time higher in the UK than in the US). You're twice as likely to be a victim of robbery in the UK (1.2% in the UK, vs 0.6% in the US).

...or maybe the US should just take out the crime stats for the 5 biggest inner cities, and 'norm' the stats the way the UK does, where they are so 'peaceful' that rape has to be done with somebody else's dick? They may not shoot you, but their assaults with a cricket bat are phenomenal!

You're # 1!


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[thør]

+1, Great post. Thanks for humanizing this. We all tend to deep dive into arguing, bypassing the actual victims.

A local sports chiropractor (who happened to live next door at my last house) and his GF were at the concert. They hit the deck and crawled to safety.

In less than two hours, the fee for bringing Adrian's body home was crowd funded past the required amount needed.

 

[renard_ruse]

I love how the guy's brother says he "wasn't into religion" like it means he was less likely to commit this attack.

How twisted an era we live in. Duh, most crimes are committed by NON-RELIGIOUS people. Religion teaches morality and thou shalt not kill. LACK OF RELIGION is a cause of crime and mass murder obviously, not the other way around.

People have lost their common sense, as well as their faith in God.