Partisan Perceptions of the News

[adrina]

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Overview:

• 14% of Republicans believe news media get the facts straight
• 62% of Democrats agree
• College-educated are most likely to find news media credible

Just over a third of Americans (37%) in 2017 say news organizations generally get the facts straight, unchanged from the last time Gallup asked this question in 2003. But despite the apparent stability in U.S. adults' perceptions of news media accuracy, major partisan shifts in beliefs on this topic have emerged over the past 14 years. Republicans' trust in the media's accuracy has fallen considerably, while Democrats' opinions on the matter have swung in the opposite direction.

This year, only 14% of Republicans believe the news media get the facts straight, down 21 points from 2003. This seems at least partly attributable to President Donald Trump's frequent invective toward the media. But last year, before Trump became president, a separate measure showed a general loss of trust in the U.S. news media among Republicans over the previous 15 years, suggesting that Trump may be taking advantage of shifting GOP attitudes at least as much as creating them.

And this little tidbit:

Nearly three-fourths of Democrats (72%) with a college degree say news organizations are generally accurate, slightly more than the 63% of Democrats who attended but did not graduate college and well above the 48% of Democrats without any college education who say the same. Independents follow a similar pattern -- those with a college education are more likely than those without a college degree to say news organizations generally get the facts straight. However, education appears to make little difference in Republicans' beliefs about the credibility of news media. Even among Republicans with at least a college degree, 18% say the media get the facts straight -- only slightly higher than the 12% of Republicans without a college degree who say the same.

More broadly, the finding that a solid majority of the country believes major news organizations routinely produce false information is one with potentially significant consequences. As one example, these views may be related to Americans' diminished trust in most major U.S. institutions and rising cynicism about the U.S. political system and elected officials.

So even though the media has the exact same accuracy perception percentage it did from 2003, the people that make up that 37% have shifted quite a bit along partisan lines.

 

[BB4evah]

^^^Fake news from Fake pollster

 

[FGB]

So they are claiming that people with a college degree lose the ability to understand when someone is pissing down their back and telling them it's raining?


Note: The Majority of the major media has been in lockstep with the Liberals for years so I'm sure they do agree with them...

 

[adrina]

^^ Part of the 12%.

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

There is no illusion of impartiality from the mainstream media. The news coming out of Fox is going through a Republican filter and news coming out of MSNBC and CNN are going through a progressive left filter.

At least Fox has Judge Andrew Napolitano who is a Libertarian/Constitutionalist. He will tear Republicans and Dems alike if they are violating the constitution and/or the law. He is my most trusted/least biased news source.

 

[FGB]

There is no illusion of impartiality from the mainstream media. The news coming out of Fox is going through a Republican filter and news coming out of MSNBC and CNN are going through a progressive left filter.

At least Fox has Judge Andrew Napolitano who is a Libertarian/Constitutionalist. He will tear Republicans and Dems alike if they are violating the constitution and/or the law. He is my most trusted/least biased news source.

I like a news Media that doesn't lie but doesn't cut anybody slack if they are wrong or fuck up!

 

[Wrong Element]

fake thread

 

[Wordsworth]

Don't those who have been to university, skew left in the USA?

 

[Matthew Craig]

You can tell some people the sky is blue and they'll disagree. To either be contrary, or from some inner feeling of no control in thier lives. America is full of cowboys who think they are trail blazing heros.

 

[Hypoxia]

Don't those who have been to university, skew left in the USA?

Not in technical fields. See The real reason there are so few conservatives on campus

The ideological imbalance on campus is real, but it isn't as all-pervasive as rhetoric on the right tends to presume. Professional schools — business and medical schools especially — show no leftward bias and sometimes even lean to the right. Hard scientists may be far more predisposed toward atheism than the general public, but their work has nothing at all to do with politics as typically defined. The social sciences lean more heavily toward the left, though economics departments often employ significant numbers of libertarians, while political science departments frequently include more than a handful of conservatives.

That leaves the humanities — English, comparative literature, philosophy, history, and various interdisciplinary departments of cultural studies — as the place on campus where the ideological imbalance is usually most evident.

Is this because faculty members in the humanities are politically engaged leftists who actively avoid hiring conservatives? There may be some of this. But more significant is the fact that many conservatives are led to study the humanities for reasons that differ dramatically from the motives that typically prevail among faculty members and receive the richest professional rewards within the academy.

Basically, lefties in the humanities focus on progressing from past and current ideas ["Class in Shakespeare," "Race in Shakespeare," "Gender in Shakespeare," "Transgender in Shakespeare," "Intersectionality in Shakespeare"] while conservatives pursue wisdom and truths in classic texts ["Supply-Side Economics in Shakespeare", "Hawkish Foreign Policy in Shakespeare"].

Then conservative humanities academics take well-paying jobs with rightwing think tanks, work as political consultants and media commentators, etc, while the lefties climb the poorly-paid academic ladder and bonk undergrads.

 

[OldJourno]

There was and is plenty of non-coverage and coverage that is technically honest but incomplete.
The IRS sitting on and stifling Tea Party nonprofit applications is a prime example. I'll bet there are plenty of people here who never heard of this, or got to the part about it being a minor thing that started and ended in Cincinnati and never heard about it again.
Freedom-loving people should be extremely alarmed if a country's tax-collecting agency misuses its power like that. It smacks of Third World, banana republic tactics.
Totally ignoring ACA architect J. Gruber's comments is another example, and downplaying his role in developing the ACA once the comments could no longer be ignored is another.

 

[Hypoxia]

ObTopic -- Partisan Perceptions of the News. Perception is funny. Tromp drives the perception that MSM are his enemies. Yet the MSM *made* Tromp, giving him billions of bucks of free publicity. And he returns the favor. Tromp has been and is VERY good for the media business. Every outlet he castigates as FAKE NEWS is showing higher ratings and profits, more ads and sales, all the stuff corporate stockholders (greedy investors) like.

In capitalist USA we measure success by wealth. How much money do alt.right media make? (Note that Fauz Nuz is now MSM. Don't cheat on the accounting.) Does partisan perception significantly drive purchases of products advertised by the various media? How does popular perception drive their bottom lines? IOW: Why ain't alt.right media cash cows yet?

 

[BB4evah]

There was and is plenty of non-coverage and coverage that is technically honest but incomplete.
The IRS sitting on and stifling Tea Party nonprofit applications is a prime example. I'll bet there are plenty of people here who never heard of this, or got to the part about it being a minor thing that started and ended in Cincinnati and never heard about it again.
Freedom-loving people should be extremely alarmed if a country's tax-collecting agency misuses its power like that. It smacks of Third World, banana republic tactics.
Totally ignoring ACA architect J. Gruber's comments is another example, and downplaying his role in developing the ACA once the comments could no longer be ignored is another.

How about DWS and the Pakistani's

How about teh Podesta ties to Russia

etc

etc

etc

 

[DrDelirium]

There's partisanship in the media, but the real problem is class bias. The media naturally support the agenda of their corporate owners, and this manifests most clearly in foreign affairs. WMD's. Libyan 'pro-democracy rebels.' Syrian 'pro-democracy rebels.' Russian maneuvers in Russia threaten Europe, but American/NATO maneuvers on Russia's borders don't threaten Russia. Ukrainian 'freedom fighters.' Chemical weapon attacks by Assad government. On and on. But what they don't report, which is almost everything, is an even bigger problem.
Trump is in trouble with media largely because he does not support the corporate globalist program, but they don't report on any of that at all, they report on whether he was sufficiently critical of racists in Charlotte (of course not, because you can't be sufficiently critical of racists. Unless they are Ukrainian Nazis, of course. Then, the less said, the better.)

 

[BB4evah]

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[Porkwarrior]

You can tell some people the sky is blue and they'll disagree. To either be contrary, or from some inner feeling of no control in thier lives. America is full of cowboys who think they are trail blazing heros.

As opposed to Canadians, who are the tsk tsk'ing castrated trust fund kids of the G20.

 

[EternalFantasies]

Not "the news'. It's media accuracy!

Only deluded people like the OP think the news have a perceived state.

The News in the news. It's static. It's what happened, exactly. not more, not less. no perceptions possible.

The media though, applies spin, twists, bombards viewers with twisted and confusing lines of interpretation of the news, ... .

 

[adrina]

Not "the news'. It's media accuracy!

Only deluded people like the OP think the news have a perceived state.

The News in the news. It's static. It's what happened, exactly. not more, not less. no perceptions possible.

The media though, applies spin, twists, bombards viewers with twisted and confusing lines of interpretation of the news, ... .

What the fuck is your problem?

 

[Hypoxia]

There's partisanship in the media, but the real problem is class bias. The media naturally support the agenda of their corporate owners, and this manifests most clearly in foreign affairs. )

Indeed. USA corporate media support almost any USA gov't power-play. (Looking at NYT and WaPo justifying Dubya's bogus mideast invasions.)

But what they don't report, which is almost everything, is an even bigger problem.
Trump is in trouble with media largely because he does not support the corporate globalist program,

Funny, the international corporate sharks seem VERY happy with DJT. Notice the markets' Trump Bump? They expect major tax and regulation relief -- and they're getting the latter. And domestic MSM are profiting nicely from Tromp. Those he labels FAKE NEWS have booming audiences and cashflow. Is he shilling for MSM?

Tromp is an elitist. Just *which* elite corporate players will be rewarded or punished is flexible, but they're not out of the game, only swapped around.

but they don't report on any of that at all, they report on whether he was sufficiently critical of racists in Charlotte...

State media world-wide, from nations widely ranging pro- or anti-US or -Tromp or don't-much-care, are reporting on C-ville and the general state of race war in USA. They generally don't seem to toe a globalist-corporate line.

 

[Freudian_Slit]

What the fuck is your problem?

He shoulda named himself EternalFuckwit.

 

[BB4evah]

Hey FRAUD n SHIT, I have a thread just for you

You Deranged OBSESSED terrorist

 

[DrDelirium]

Indeed. USA corporate media support almost any USA gov't power-play. (Looking at NYT and WaPo justifying Dubya's bogus mideast invasions.)

Funny, the international corporate sharks seem VERY happy with DJT. Notice the markets' Trump Bump? They expect major tax and regulation relief -- and they're getting the latter. And domestic MSM are profiting nicely from Tromp. Those he labels FAKE NEWS have booming audiences and cashflow. Is he shilling for MSM?

Tromp is an elitist. Just *which* elite corporate players will be rewarded or punished is flexible, but they're not out of the game, only swapped around.

State media world-wide, from nations widely ranging pro- or anti-US or -Tromp or don't-much-care, are reporting on C-ville and the general state of race war in USA. They generally don't seem to toe a globalist-corporate line.

Trump is pretty much done, so of course there's a bump. He has no allies in his own administration, they're all neocons now, except possibly Mattis. Yes, Trump is an elitist, but he represented a slightly different slice of the elite- focused on the capitalism of actual stuff in actual places, instead of the capitalism of global liquidity. In Marxist terms, an historical reactionary, because he was trying to move back to a time before finance capital dominated everything, instead of forward, to the final consolidation and therefor collapse of global capitalism. He seems to have lost. Either way, it was going to be ugly for most of us.

The point about C-ville is that other media also report on other things, in much more depth than American media. If you want to know what's actually happening in Syria, for instance, there's no point in reading American papers at all, but you can piece together a pretty good narrative from Arab, Iranian, Russian and Turkish media, as conflicting as they sometimes are. The basic facts on the ground tend to resolve into a consensus within a couple of days, as opposed to after all the politicians involved are dead, as in the US.

 

[OldJourno]

There was and is plenty of non-coverage and coverage that is technically honest but incomplete.
The IRS sitting on and stifling Tea Party nonprofit applications is a prime example. I'll bet there are plenty of people here who never heard of this, or got to the part about it being a minor thing that started and ended in Cincinnati and never heard about it again.
Freedom-loving people should be extremely alarmed if a country's tax-collecting agency misuses its power like that. It smacks of Third World, banana republic tactics.
Totally ignoring ACA architect J. Gruber's comments is another example, and downplaying his role in developing the ACA once the comments could no longer be ignored is another.
Gruber mocked as stupid everyone who supported the ACA.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

There was and is plenty of non-coverage and coverage that is technically honest but incomplete.
The IRS sitting on and stifling Tea Party nonprofit applications is a prime example. I'll bet there are plenty of people here who never heard of this, or got to the part about it being a minor thing that started and ended in Cincinnati and never heard about it again.
Freedom-loving people should be extremely alarmed if a country's tax-collecting agency misuses its power like that. It smacks of Third World, banana republic tactics.
Totally ignoring ACA architect J. Gruber's comments is another example, and downplaying his role in developing the ACA once the comments could no longer be ignored is another.

There was and is plenty of non-coverage and coverage that is technically honest but incomplete.
The IRS sitting on and stifling Tea Party nonprofit applications is a prime example. I'll bet there are plenty of people here who never heard of this, or got to the part about it being a minor thing that started and ended in Cincinnati and never heard about it again.
Freedom-loving people should be extremely alarmed if a country's tax-collecting agency misuses its power like that. It smacks of Third World, banana republic tactics.
Totally ignoring ACA architect J. Gruber's comments is another example, and downplaying his role in developing the ACA once the comments could no longer be ignored is another.
Gruber mocked as stupid everyone who supported the ACA.

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Whoa.

 

[OldJourno]

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Yeah, I'm proud of that one.