The American Taliban/Isis.

Emmerson, when was the last time white nationalists defenestrated gays off of rooftops?


Quit employing the fallacy of false expertise. I have spent much time reading the Koran, the Haddiths and the words of Muslim leaders. The white nationalist movement is tame compared to the antics of the people in Gaza and on the West Bank, just for an example of the tolerance and peaceful intentions of a religion you seem to hold dear.


Again, if the Left would have just turned its back on them and ignored them, then the opportunity for violence would have been nil, but they cam spoiling for a fight has events since the election of Trump, or should I may more properly say, the loss of a third Obama term, and have been causing violence wherever they go.


By the numbers: https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2017/08/12/is-charlottesville-whats-really-going-on-in-the-usa/

.01% vs 10% active and another 30-40% according to polling in the regions of Islam sympathetic to the Jihad against the West. There is no evidence of any sympathy for the losers of the white power movement; no polling, nothing.



Yeah, it's difficult to transplant old trees.


Oh well, you and I tried, and will just carry on carrying on.
 
There is a huge difference to a tiny movement with no support and a world-wide movement which enjoys great support. To equate the two is a false equivalency.


The White Nationals don't even bomb the churches that denounce them...
 
When you join american taliban, are there introductory samplers of virgins?

Getting the virgins before the suicide would be a game changer for me.
 
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Why what? Many Civil War symbols and monuments were removed while Obama was in office.
But still.

Don't get me wrong. From what I read it looks like those people stood for slavery, and I think that taking down their statues is the right thing to do, and that those White Power people are idiots and thugs.


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In saying that:
America has been a democracy that allowed free speech for decades,
--- yet one heard much less often of these things. People were more preoccupied with their daily lives and didn't bother much about statues, even those who were colour blind and treated all people the same.
--- And even advocates against discrimination of blacks. Bryan Stevenson for instance (founder of Just Mercy - re blacks wrongfully imprisoned) didn't bother about statues.


Whereas now there's a different flair in terms of emotionality and magnitude of movement from both the R and the L.
-- For me, this is clearly a sign that America is becoming more and more "ideologised".
 
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You mean "The Klan" that was created by southern Democrats after the Civil War as a "social group", but "quickly changed into a violent group that terrorized newly empowered black and white Republicans in the South"?

That KKK?

Can you share with us the Democratic Party's shameful involvement with the KKK over the years of its existence?

If, then, the KKK is to be demonized to the point of eradication, shouldn't the Democratic Party be eradicated, too, for its unarguable role in the KKK?

What about the racist Franklin Delano Roosevelt - you know, the Democrat icon who enslaved American citizens at the outbreak of WWII, denying them all of their constitutional rights in doing so?

When will you communists begin demanding the eradication of FDR from American history, too?


[http://www.politifact.com/virginia/...en-stephen-martin-says-democratic-party-cre/]

The KKK was always right wing.

You know that, right?
 
The KKK was always right wing.

You know that, right?

When they started, the Klan was actually a civil rights organization. They fought for the civil rights of disenfranchised white southerners, including former Confederate soldiers.
 
Emmerson, when was the last time white nationalists defenestrated gays off of rooftops?

So is that your minimum baseline - tossing a homosexual from a building?

If this isn't met, a mono-ethnic nationalism group calling for the deaths and deportations of your fellow Americans is not worthy of your scorn or protest, or qualify, at least in your mind, as worthy as say ISIS, to be referred to as terrorists, or domestic terrorists.

They're just good ol' boys, a little alt-right and raising a little shit, is all.


Everyone sets their own, minimum standard, I suppose.



Quit employing the fallacy of false expertise. I have spent much time reading the Koran, the Haddiths and the words of Muslim leaders. The white nationalist movement is tame compared to the antics of the people in Gaza and on the West Bank, just for an example of the tolerance and peaceful intentions of a religion you seem to hold dear.


Again, if the Left would have just turned its back on them and ignored them, then the opportunity for violence would have been nil, but they cam spoiling for a fight has events since the election of Trump, or should I may more properly say, the loss of a third Obama term, and have been causing violence wherever they go.

Just a few comments here.

I hold no religion dear.
Nor do I blame an entire religion - Islam, Christianity, or Flying Spaghetti Monster - for the extreme acts and behaviours of a few radicalized members of those religions.


Once more you pull out your Left vs. Right cards, and bring up Obama (more and more, this appears to be some kind of tropism with you. Or is it trumpism...doesn't matter.) about an issue where left or right, or Trump or Obama really shouldn't matter.

When does one's political leanings matter, or start dictating whether or not you find the ideologies of a nationalistic hate-group whose manifesto calls for a mono-ethnic state and genocide, acceptable, and worthy of civil discourse?

This is what America and other countries sent their fathers, sons, and brothers to eradicate in a war. Blood and lives were sacrificed.

But you want to point out how the casualties on the counter-protesters side are their own fault, because they should have just stayed home, just ignored them. Sat on their hands.
Oh no...wait....they didn't have a permit. Deaths don't count because they didn't file the paperwork.


Sure, those peaceful white supremacists were just chanting about ethnic cleansing, and shouting about death to niggers, jews, and faggots.

Peaceful, civil discourse. And it's not like they were throwing homos from the rooftops, right?
 
I wonder how our Jewish contingent would feel walking past a statue of Eichmann or Mengele every day on the way in to work.
 
There is a huge difference to a tiny movement with no support and a world-wide movement which enjoys great support. To equate the two is a false equivalency.

You of all people lecturing others on false equivalency is the absolute height of unintentional irony. :rolleyes:
 
I wonder how our Jewish contingent would feel walking past a statue of Eichmann or Mengele every day on the way in to work.

I think it would depend on which side of the statue they walked past. There are many sides, you know. Many sides!
 
Someone tell AJ that "defenestrated" means "tossed out a window," not off a rooftop.

Or not. Let him remain illiterate.
 
We must ban the song, "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" by The Band because it portal people of the Confederate South in a sympathetic light when, in fact, they were all evil monsters and they deserved what they got. BAN THAT SONG!!!
 
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