ALT-Left?

[contrifan32]

^^^AJ's core philosophy in a nutshell.

You might be able to get a job at CNN

 

[richard_daily]

You need to go look at their website...


It is as if you are advocating for them. Soros is funding them for one reason, and one reason only, it's how he makes his wealth, he finances destabilizing elements in every country and then makes currency bets. Antifa is not fighting the Alt-Right, thay are trying to bring down the government.

Soros isn't funding them, you fucking buffoon.

 

[zipman]

Soros isn't funding them, you fucking buffoon.

He's doubling down on Soros is the boogeyman.

Just like he did during the election.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Shhhhhh Pay no attention to these dwindling groups that are killing Americans, and want to take down the government. Drain the swamp!

The violence comes at a time when hate groups are experiencing growth and higher prominence. According to research from the Southern Poverty Law Center released earlier this year, 917 hate groups were spread out across the U.S. in 2016 compared to 892 in 2015 and 784 in 2014.

Are they growing? In 2016 the Klan said that it was in the midst of a revival with a "surge in membership across the Deep South".

 

[jaF0]

No, you ambush elected representatives of the opposition on baseball fields and shoot them.

Not that I agree with it, but an argument could be made that politicians pose a threat to safety in that many are actively trying to cause harm to people. The 'defense of others to prevent imminent harm' or however the phrase goes. Wasn't the one guy that got shot seen as sort of an evil dirtbag?

I'd rather take that threat out in the ballot box, but others have more immediate goals.

 

[Rightguide]

Not that I agree with it, but an argument could be made that politicians pose a threat to safety in that many are actively trying to cause harm to people. The 'defense of others to prevent imminent harm' or however the phrase goes. Wasn't the one guy that got shot seen as sort of an evil dirtbag?

I'd rather take that threat out in the ballot box, but others have more immediate goals.

Then the Democrat Partry, the most destructive force in America today, should have been wiped out long ago.

 

[contrifan32]

Not that I agree with it, but an argument could be made that politicians pose a threat to safety in that many are actively trying to cause harm to people. The 'defense of others to prevent imminent harm' or however the phrase goes. Wasn't the one guy that got shot seen as sort of an evil dirtbag?

I'd rather take that threat out in the ballot box, but others have more immediate goals.

Its people like you and statements like the one you made above that make me sick to my stomach. You suggest that the "argument could be made" to commit an act of terrorism on a sitting US Congressman while asking "wasn't the one guy... an evil dirtbag"?

If you truly believe that you are the evil one.

 

[KimGordon67]

You've done it to me.

Here's the deal. In the past we've started threads about the Antifa's violence against conservatives, not all of them Alt-Right, but all of that passed in silence from the same people who are now outraged at the white nationalists. But I'm with Ogg on this one, if the few, the pathetic, the vast hate-wing minority had simply been ignored and their route surrounded by the national guard, then there would have been no opportunity for violence. No media coverage would be nice to, the problem is that the media and the intellectual class have been on a witch-hunt for their war on whites, white privilege, white supremacy and white violence in order to make America more Nihilistic and afraid to say anything, to speak up, to employ free speech.

Now, everyone seems they think they have the absolute proof of this fairy tale and they are making the most of this moment and using an unfortunate death to launch a political crusade. Unlike Islamic terrorism, we see the seeds being sown that everyone who will not engage in this political purge is actually supporting white nationalism, instead of the correct interpretation, we abohor all violence, even the violence of the CTRL_Left.

This is a complete hypothesis on your part that cannot be proven.

I don't think has been used to 'launch' anything - where's your evidence for that? The US's current state of endemic and institutionalised racism is the 'launching pad' - this latest incident is just a flashpoint that's symptomatic of a far greater problem. The BLM movement is because black deaths in custody is not an isolated incident.

 

[KimGordon67]

Oh, I know that.

You're having a conversation with a right wing extremist who doesn't care about the truth, facts, logic or what your actual position is.

Liberals/democrats are his "enemies" and he will twist anything he can to try and "win" some points in his ongoing "war" against them.

Just an FYI.

 

[KimGordon67]

I'm still waiting for a response to this query about the Refuse Facism website.

What is it I'm meant to finding on here that's going to shock me so much?

 

[richard_daily]

He's doubling down on Soros is the boogeyman.

Just like he did during the election.

Here's the kind of site he's getting his fucking nonsense from:

http://truthfeed.com/soros-funded-g...roup-antifa-who-provoked-berkeley-riot/50542/

No links, no proof... But the article says it, and AJ believes it, just like he believes every other lie that comes out of the alt-right. AJ is a moron.

 

[KimGordon67]

See link below. Particularly the line "“That’s when Antifa saved our lives,” he said." I've seen more detailed descriptions of similar events but I can't find a postable link for them.
If 'both sides were as bad as each other' I'd expect someone could find some similar evidence of Unite the Right protecting innocent protestors from violent AntiFa. Or even just anything similar happening. I look forward to the relevant link/s.

https://thinkprogress.org/clergy-in-charlottesville-e95752415c3e/

 

[snugglestruggle]

Shhhhhh Pay no attention to these dwindling groups that are killing Americans, and want to take down the government. Drain the swamp!

Anybody interested in having a good government which puts the good of the country first ,should want to drain the swamp which is Washington D.C.

BLM and their like are the equivalent of Miracle grow for Klan types and vice versa
Put them and their supporters on an island and let them kill each other off.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Here is quite a lot of detail. As you can see, Antifa and their allies were the ones who began the violence. Until that happened, the demonstration was peaceful.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/19685...olence-antifa-charlottesville-robert-kraychik

 

[KimGordon67]

So I watched this, honestly with an open mind. But really, how is that 'quite a lot of detail' compared to the lengthy narrative I linked to, in which the author quite specifically mentioned also having run ins with AntiFa, suggesting (well, to me anyway) that they weren't overly biased?
That's one minute of video (made by someone who clearly does have a specific allegiance) that could have been shot at any point in the day, focusing on one part of one very specific incident, and it's almost impossible to see, and utterly impossible to hear, what's going on there (and yes, I watched it twice). I'm not seeing this as evidence that AntiFa 'started the violence'.

Here is quite a lot of detail. As you can see, Antifa and their allies were the ones who began the violence. Until that happened, the demonstration was peaceful.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/19685...olence-antifa-charlottesville-robert-kraychik

 

[Boxlicker101]

So I watched this, honestly with an open mind. But really, how is that 'quite a lot of detail' compared to the lengthy narrative I linked to, in which the author quite specifically mentioned also having run ins with AntiFa, suggesting (well, to me anyway) that they weren't overly biased?
That's one minute of video (made by someone who clearly does have a specific allegiance) that could have been shot at any point in the day, focusing on one part of one very specific incident, and it's almost impossible to see, and utterly impossible to hear, what's going on there (and yes, I watched it twice). I'm not seeing this as evidence that AntiFa 'started the violence'.

There's a link within the link, and a lot of narrative. Some of it is from the chief of police of Charlottesville.

 

[KimGordon67]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155980301908274&set=p.10155980301908274&type=3&theater

I'm still trying to find a source for this, but it echoes the previous narrative.

 

[KimGordon67]

There's a link within the link, and a lot of narrative. Some of it is from the chief of police of Charlottesville.

What link? All I can see is a link to an extended interview with the woman who shot the original video.

 

[Hypoxia]

http://eurokulture.missouri.edu/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/spiegel78-1.jpg

Isn't that Donald wearing shades on the left?

 

[Boxlicker101]

What link? All I can see is a link to an extended interview with the woman who shot the original video.

Click on where it says according to

 

[KimGordon67]

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[KimGordon67]

Click on where it says according to

So the first incident she describes, with the car, isn't attributed to anyone? I can't even tell if they're talked about the incident where the woman was killed or not.

And lmao - people totally do call 'all Muslims' terrorists - that why Muslims get attacked in public. And what they say in there about the alt-right not defining an entire 'movement' is exactly what you're doing here with the AntiFa.
And the alt-right were just 'discussing ideas'? Seriously. So carrying a swastika is just 'an idea'. (Yes, I know technically it is, but let's get real about what 'the idea' is - see my post above re this.)
... and she really lost me at the point where we're meant to feel sorry for white men. The subsequent discussion just descends into stupidity. No one accuses white guys gathering of 'racism' unless they're saying racism stuff.
And at that point we seem to have lost the narrative of the event.

Again, I tried to watch this with an open mind, but this is ... well, I don't know. But not really evidence that AntiFa hit first ... and again, even if they did, they didn't KILL anyone.

 

[KimGordon67]

The situation for poor white people in the US isn't because the black people are taking all the stuff: "Among racial and ethnic groups, African Americans had the highest poverty rate, 27.4 percent, followed by Hispanics at 26.6 percent and whites at 9.9 percent." (http://www.stateofworkingamerica.org/fact-sheets/poverty/)

The cause of their problems is global capitalism - the ideology that Trump pretty much embodies - not BLM or AntiFa or Jews or anyone else they're choosing to direct their anger at. If they could direct their tiki torches at the right issue, they might have a fighting chance. This isn't really going to help them at all.

 

[Hypoxia]

The cause of their problems is global capitalism - the ideology that Trump pretty much embodies - not BLM or AntiFa or Jews or anyone else they're choosing to direct their anger at. If they could direct their tiki torches at the right issue, they might have a fighting chance. This isn't really going to help them at all.

When money is speech, corporate money drowns-out all other voices. Left-behinds can tweet and email and shout hate all they want -- they can't buy the needed media space/time. Best they can hope for is SCOTUS to declare shooting firearms as free speech.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I take exception to part of your post there.


We rarely attack Muslims in the US even though they attack us.