Russophobes justify hate by claiming Russia "invades other countries"

[renard_ruse]

Putting aside the fact that the US has invaded numerous countries in recent decades and many of the same people don't seem to care, the basic flaw in the argument is that Russia has never just "invaded" a country against the will of its people.

In ALL the supposed Russian "invasions," Russian involvement is limited to regions where there is no real dispute that a majority of local people WANT Russia there to protect them and ensure their rights and interests. In every, single, one.

FACT.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Putting aside the fact that the US has invaded numerous countries in recent decades and many of the same people don't seem to care, the basic flaw in the argument is that Russia has never just "invaded" a country against the will of its people.

In ALL the supposed Russian "invasions," Russian involvement is limited to regions where there is no real dispute that a majority of local people WANT Russia there to protect them and ensure their rights and interests. In every, single, one.

FACT.

Do you distinguish between the USSR and Russia? The former invaded many countries in Europe and Asia, including Poland, Finland, Hungary, Afghanistan and others. And these invasions usually resulted in full or partial annexations. Russia currently has an ongoing invasion of Ukraine. Some of the citizens there favor it, but most are opposed.

ETA: Russia also invaded Crimea and Georgia during the last few years.

 

[Liar]

Putting aside the fact that the US has invaded numerous countries in recent decades and many of the same people don't seem to care, the basic flaw in the argument is that Russia has never just "invaded" a country against the will of its people.

In ALL the supposed Russian "invasions," Russian involvement is limited to regions where there is no real dispute that a majority of local people WANT Russia there to protect them and ensure their rights and interests. In every, single, one.

FACT.

So you're saying Finland would be justified taking parts Ladoga Karelia and Isthmus from Russia?

 

[renard_ruse]

Do you distinguish between the USSR and Russia?

Yes, absolutely. Its not the same country. The USSR was a federation of 15 republics, Russia was only 1 of them.

Russia currently has an ongoing invasion of Ukraine. Some of the citizens there favor it, but most are opposed.

Assuming that Russia is actually in Donbass, which I don't believe it is, but if so my statement absolutely applies. Donbass was the stronghold of Yanokovich's Party of Regions. The local leadership declaired independence out of legitimate fear of the far right nationalists that overthrew his government.

Russia also invaded Crimea

Crimeans voted overwhelmingly to rejoin Russia. Again, the locals wanted Russia's presence.

Georgia during the last few years

Abkhazia and South Ossetia asked for Russia's protection due to fear of genocide from the Georgian regime. A neutral international panel upheld Russia's involvement.

The same is true for Transnistria, Nagorno-Karabakh, as well as Syria.

Not a single case have Russian troops gone somewhere they were not invited by locals. They have not randomly invaded anyone.

 

[renard_ruse]

So you're saying Finland would be justified taking parts Ladoga Karelia and Isthmus from Russia?

If they want a nuclear bomb on Helsinki, sure.

Seriously, has Finland been invited by the local government in these areas?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Putting aside the fact that the US has invaded numerous countries in recent decades and many of the same people don't seem to care, the basic flaw in the argument is that Russia has never just "invaded" a country against the will of its people.

In ALL the supposed Russian "invasions," Russian involvement is limited to regions where there is no real dispute that a majority of local people WANT Russia there to protect them and ensure their rights and interests. In every, single, one.

FACT.

Point of contention. When we invade, the only thing we ask is enough land to bury our dead.

When they invade, it's for keeps...

 

[oggbashan]

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In ALL the supposed Russian "invasions," Russian involvement is limited to regions where there is no real dispute that a majority of local people WANT Russia there to protect them and ensure their rights and interests. In every, single, one.

FACT.

That was Hitler's excuse too - for the Rhineland, for Austria, for part, then the whole of Czechoslavakia, and for Poland.

The referendum in the Crimea didn't allow votes to those who didn't want Russia's presence.

If your argument is valid, parts of Argentina should be Welsh, and the whole of the United States should still belong to Native Americans, and South American should still belong to the indigenous tribes.

And of course many parts of the US should belong to Mexico but illegals aren't allowed to vote.

 

[hsnh]

Renard and his awe with russians…
I can only imagine the vexation of other americans and brits. from this forum.