Mueller Impanels Grand Jury

[Nipples_Mcgee1]

Mueller impanels Washington grand jury in Russia probe: Wall Street Journal

(Reuters) - Special counsel Robert Mueller has impaneled a grand jury in Washington to investigate allegations of Russia’s interference in the 2016 elections, the Wall Street Journal said on Thursday, citing two unnamed people familiar with the matter.

The grand jury began its work in recent weeks and is a sign that Mueller's inquiry into Russia's efforts to influence the election and whether it colluded with President Donald Trump's campaign is ramping up, the Journal said.

If the outcome of the special counsel is very bad, as opposed to merely bad, for Trump, I suspect Mueller will have uncovered money laundering. *nods*

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Looks to me like the GOP and Dems wanna die. Both sides will lose.

 

[adrina]

Looks to me like the GOP and Dems wanna die. Both sides will lose.

Not really.

 

[doowdniw]

Mueller impanels Washington grand jury in Russia probe: Wall Street Journal
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If the outcome of the special counsel is very bad, as opposed to merely bad, for Trump, I suspect Mueller will have uncovered money laundering. *nods*

Money laundering, international bribery, RICO, aiding and abetting, conspiracy, tax evasion, take your pick. It won't be pretty. ("Follow the money.")

 

[mackiemack]

All the elderly RWCJ like AJ, Ishmael/Ann, and Rightguide/miles will drown themselves in sorrow.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Not really.

Hide and wait for it happen.

 

[adrina]

Hide and wait for it happen.

Define "it". Specifically. What will come back to bite both democrats and republicans in the ass?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Money laundering, international bribery, RICO, aiding and abetting, conspiracy, tax evasion, take your pick. It won't be pretty. ("Follow the money.")

So Trump is releasing his tax forms?

 

[jaF0]

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1449954

 

[jaF0]

So Trump is releasing his tax forms?

Hopefully, they'll be subpoenaed.

 

[mackiemack]

Everyone needs to be careful out there in these streets. We know Dump supporters are violent savages when they don't get their way. That's what they do best.

 

[sr71plt]

Hopefully, they'll be subpoenaed.

And if they have to be subpoenaed, they can be gotten straight from the IRS. No Trump foot dragging.

 

[ishtat]

I suppose that Grand Jury might possibly find that there is "no case to answer."

That would disappoint a few people but the GJ does at least import due process into partizan name calling - whichever way the decisions fall.

 

[doowdniw]

So Trump is releasing his tax forms?

No release by Trump would be necessary.

 

[MGurkus]

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[Not Normal]

So Trump is releasing his tax forms?

And if they have to be subpoenaed, they can be gotten straight from the IRS. No Trump foot dragging.

There is chatter that Mueler already has them.

 

[Hypoxia]

Can a grand jury offer indictments for constitutional violations such as Tromp's trampling of the emoluments clauses? Those are straight money-bribery issues.

 

[cowslinger64]

I suppose that Grand Jury might possibly find that there is "no case to answer."

That would disappoint a few people but the GJ does at least import due process into partizan name calling - whichever way the decisions fall.

That is certainly a possibility.. And if so, that's fine. But at least we wouldn't be taking trumps" word" (lol} for it.

My gut feeling is there is stuff gonna come out that he is desperately trying to hide.

The RWCJ is unsurprisingly quiet here..

 

[BoyNextDoor]

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Instant classic

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Can a grand jury offer indictments for constitutional violations such as Tromp's trampling of the emoluments clauses? Those are straight money-bribery issues.

The emoluments clause is essentially codified under federal law at 5 U.S. Code § 7342 - "Receipt and disposition of foreign gifts and decorations."

The statute stipulates:

(b) An employee may not—

(1) request or otherwise encourage the tender of a gift or decoration; or
(2) accept a gift or decoration, other than in accordance with the provisions of subsections (c) and (d).

It specifically includes the President and Vice President within the definition of "employee."

Subsection (c)(1)(A), however, allows acceptance of a gift of "minimal value" defined as no greater than $100 retail value.

Additionally, Subsection (c)(1)(B) allows:

"the accepting by an employee of a gift of more than minimal value when such gift is in the nature of an educational scholarship or medical treatment or when it appears that to refuse the gift would likely cause offense or embarrassment or otherwise adversely affect the foreign relations of the United States, except that—\

(i) a tangible gift of more than minimal value is deemed to have been accepted on behalf of the United States and, upon acceptance, shall become the property of the United States; and

(ii) an employee may accept gifts of travel or expenses for travel taking place entirely outside the United States (such as transportation, food, and lodging) of more than minimal value if such acceptance is appropriate, consistent with the interests of the United States, and permitted by the employing agency and any regulations which may be prescribed by the employing agency."

Finally, violation of the statute is not a criminal violation. It is only a violation of civil law, although subsection (j) allows the possibility of greater penalties imposed on an agency-by-agency basis:

(h) The Attorney General may bring a civil action in any district court of the United States against any employee who knowingly solicits or accepts a gift from a foreign government not consented to by this section or who fails to deposit or report such gift as required by this section. The court in which such action is brought may assess a penalty against such employee in any amount not to exceed the retail value of the gift improperly solicited or received plus $5,000.

(i) The President shall direct all Chiefs of a United States Diplomatic Mission to inform their host governments that it is a general policy of the United States Government to prohibit United States Government employees from receiving gifts or decorations of more than minimal value.

(j) Nothing in this section shall be construed to derogate any regulation prescribed by any employing agency which provides for more stringent limitations on the receipt of gifts and decorations by its employees.

 

[Nipples_Mcgee1]

Speaking of tax fraud.

This Trump real estate deal looks awfully like criminal tax fraud.

 

[MGurkus]

Lock him up!

 

[richard_daily]

Can a grand jury offer indictments for constitutional violations such as Tromp's trampling of the emoluments clauses? Those are straight money-bribery issues.

I think that's outside of the scope of the grand jury.

 

[richmondman]

Yeah Trump is in real trouble. Some others around him are in very big trouble.

The DOJ doesn't move to a grand jury without an expectation indictments will follow eventually. It'll take a while.

This is how the DOJ rolls: It already has all of the financial information, and has for a while including the infamous tax returns. With a pending investigation, they get the returns with a phone call to Treasury. Tracing money around the world, yep. Happens all the time. It has the info, but it's not in court-ready evidence form yet, and the package hasn't been tied together thoroughly enough. I'm sure that DOJ has a pretty good idea of who will be charged and for what.

What the grand jury move does is permit specific subpoenas to be issued, which are necessary for a number of reasons. Banks, for example, professionals, such as accountants and such, and others have to keep their clients' info confidential, but with a subpoena it all gets turned over with all of the evidentiary prerequisites met. That builds the document part of the case.

Then the grand jury can require people to testify under oath, and in secrecy. It can investigate any crime, not just what you read about in the media.

There is no defense lawyer, no cross examination. The grand jury isn't deciding guilt or innocence; it is determining whether probable cause exists that a certain crime has been committed.

There is no requirement to go after the top target right away, and usually the technique is to focus from the bottom up. In this case, some of Trump's "associates" are going to under some pressure. Depending on how things go, some will agree to cooperate in exchange for sentencing leniency. Happens all the time.

Brick by brick, the big case will be built. That's how they do it, so by the time an indictment comes the evidence is overwhelming with plenty of witnesses to lay it out. The grand jury can issue multiple indictments, in any order, so this tends to be orchestrated.

The media is hysterical, as usual, thinking that every bit of news is a case onto itself. If you're for Trump, you say "no crime, so what, let it go!" If you're not, you say "ah HA!" he's done! But that isn't the way that DOJ does things.

And DOJ will leak, too, strategically. They will want certain people to know that the feds have tons of information already that ensnares those people. For example, how did the NYT learn of the Trump Tower meeting? Didn't come from the participants, right? Don't you think that there were other meetings, but those haven't been put out there ... yet. The feds send signals like that, and the grand jury move is a bit of gasoline for the fire.

An old saying goes "a good prosecutor can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich." That is true, so that a grand jury is convened that means it is being used for the above purposes and will return indictments.

 

[fit_sexual_male50]

Unfortunately Robert Mueller is a DeepState traitor. He presided over the 9/11 treason. He will attempt to skewer President Trump, who is really the last chance we have as a sovereign democracy.