Mitch McConnell Goes Nuclear on Health Care

[gotsnowgotslush]

Pure Repeal!
No replace, included.

Mitch McConnell Goes Nuclear on Health Care

Republican Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, has signaled that he will call for a vote to repeal the Affordable Care Act outright, with no replacement legislation.

A full repeal of the Affordable Care Act would require 60 votes and thus Democratic support, but through budget reconciliation, the G.O.P. could effectively dismantle Obamacare with a single party-line vote.

Straight repeal would increase the number of people without insurance to some 32 million over the next decade, according to the C.B.O. Coupled with a historically unpopular president in the White House, the prospect of stripping health-care coverage from millions and throwing the insurance markets into chaos would be political suicide for Republicans.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/mitch-mcconnell-goes-nuclear-on-health-care

The proposition is largely symbolic: Republicans only supported the full repeal measure in 2015 because they were assured that their effort would be stymied by President Barack Obama’s veto. Now, with “clean repeal” predicted to increase the number of people without insurance by some 32 million over the next decade, the bill is almost certainly dead on arrival.


http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/republican-health-care-bill-trump-rebuke

Getting rid of Obamacare without any replacement policy would be an utter disaster that would instantly wreck the insurance market. Republicans are using a procedure called budget reconciliation that would allow them to avoid a filibuster and pass the bill with just 50 votes in the Senate. But the reconciliation process comes with a set of byzantine rules that limits what can actually be included in the legislation.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics...-obamacare-repeal-plan-is-somehow-even-worse/


The new plan to intentionally sabotage the health care law marked an abrupt shift from Trump’s suggestion on Monday to repeal the health care law without a replacement plan.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics...republicans-to-let-obamacare-fail-on-its-own/


President Trump on Tuesday called on the Senate to end the legislative filibuster after the collapse of the Republican healthcare plan.

“The Senate must go to a 51 vote majority instead of current 60 votes. Even parts of full Repeal need 60. 8 Dems control Senate. Crazy!” Trump tweeted.

Getting rid of the filibuster, however, would not have guaranteed the success of the GOP plan to repeal and replace ObamaCare. The Senate considered the measure under budget reconciliation rules, which only required a 51-vote majority to pass.

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobby...ate-to-end-filibuster-after-healthcare-defeat



Trump Might, Perhaps, May Go Nuclear on Health Care

"Donald Trump holds a fuse in his hands — and he could decide to light it and blow up Obamacare insurance markets as soon as Thursday."

"That’s the deadline for sending out the next monthly Affordable Care Act subsidies to health plans to defray the cost of care for individuals with low incomes."

One person who spoke to Trump earlier this week said he was determined that — no matter what happens — his administration won’t be blamed for the failure of Obamacare. “I don’t think he realizes that he will be blamed for this,” this person said. “It could be a bad move.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/18/trump-obamacare-markets-subsidies-cut-240684?lo=ap_f1

"Let's fuck up the mandate! What could possibly go wrong ?"

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/18/us/politics/republicans-obamacare-repeal-now-replace-later.html

Sen. Dick Durbin noted the Republicans control the House, Senate and the White House.

"They seem to have this notion that they can be a majority party, and have control of the White House, and not be responsible for bringing down the health care system,” the Illinois Democrat said. “It doesn’t work that way.”


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...posed-obamacare-repeal-dead-article-1.3335771

Mitch McConnelli is willing to harm Republican senators

http://crooksandliars.com/2017/07/breaking-moran-and-lee-are-nos-trumpcare

Blame game!



(The Republican women voted with their cunts ? The Republican men that were left out of the decision process, made their own decisions...)

Meanwhile, many senators are annoyed with Majority Leader Mitch McConnell for the rushed, secretive process that produced the health-care bill, and for threatening to cancel their August vacation for a potentially fruitless legislative session. And everyone is annoyed with the House Freedom Caucus, which has also demanded that lawmakers spend next month in D.C.

House Republican staffer described the fractious mood on Capitol Hill as “Republican-on-Republican violence.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-on-trumptheyre-turning-on-each-other/533952/

DAVIS: You know, there are put up or shut up moments in life, Audie, and this is one for the United States Senate and Republicans in the Senate. McConnell is essentially asking Republicans to vote for something they've already voted for. This is a rehash of a 2015 vote in which every Republican senator except one - Susan Collins of Maine - voted to essentially repeal all of Obamacare and didn't offer much to replace it with. And one advocate of this strategy is Kentucky Senator Rand Paul. And this is what he had to say today.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)



RAND PAUL: If you voted for it a year and a half ago, you got a lot of explaining to do when you go home if you're going to vote differently this time. We ran four elections on repealing Obamacare. I think we can repeal Obamacare. It's not even a complete repeal. It's a partial repeal. So I think, yes, if you voted for it in 2015, you should vote for it again.

http://www.npr.org/2017/07/18/537948514/sen-mcconnells-plan-b-to-repeal-affordable-care-act-fails


Republicans have had to confront the anti-government derangement that animates the party’s right wing—while so-called moderates and even some conservatives come to terms with the ways that their constituents increasingly rely on government assistance, especially the ACA, and don’t want any part of House Speaker Paul Ryan’s fantasies of a world without Medicaid.

With the “help” of Senator Ted Cruz—widely considered the least popular man in his caucus—McConnell tried to sell the bill as all things to all GOP senators, and he got caught.

https://www.thenation.com/article/in...biggest-loser/

July 17, 2017

Senators Figure Out McConnell Is Lying to Them About Trumpcare

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...connell-is-lying-to-them-about-trumpcare.html

 

[Iceprincess12]

It's an easy position to take when your constituents are behind you. I personally find politicians to be cowards, but I like seeing ideas that stop spoon feeding capable Americans.

This isn't a goverment issue, this is a personal issue. If the politicians really cared, they would legislate prevention, not treatment. They don't really care about anything but getting more money to keep themselves in power.

Power to the people!! (Now where is my free wi-fi?)

 

[dan_c00000]

It's an easy position to take when your constituents are behind you.

And those people are going to be in for a very rude shock when big daddy government takes away their healthcare.

The teahadists said it best:

https://b-i.forbesimg.com/peterjreilly/files/2013/06/govoutofmedicare6.jpg

 

[DrDelirium]

There doesn't seem to be any significant possibility, or even urge, to do anything in Congress that won't be a disaster for the American people, but the claim that 'throwing insurance markets into turmoil,' is such a disaster is like saying that the problem with outlawing bath salts is that it makes life hard for drug dealers.
And yes, I'm aware that millions of people are employed by the insurance agency and there could be massive layoffs, but I'm sure that due to the Obama Recovery they won't have any trouble finding good jobs. Maybe even with employer-sponsored health insurance!

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

*tip of the hat, to the thread on the letter, that was found near Heller's office

A threatening letter was found at U.S. Sen. Dean Heller’s office in Las Vegas over the weekend, but there was no break-in as initially reported, Metro Police said today.


Police received a call about 9 a.m. Sunday from an alarm company reporting a burglary alarm at the main entrance of Heller’s office at 8930 W. Sunset Road, near Durango Drive.

Officers determined there was no burglary but found a threatening note addressed to Heller near the door, police said. Officers took a report for “threatening or obscene letters or writing” and opened an investigation, police said. Police initially reported a burglary had taken place.

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2017/jul/16/burglary-at-hellers-las-vegas-office-investigated/


Who is paying for the new attack ads on Heller, now ?


The Old Attack Dogs, that were sent to feed Trump's loyal fans some red meat to chew on-

June 29, 2017

America First Policies spent four days on a pull-no-punches campaign against Republican Sen. Dean Heller of Nevada, beginning shortly after he surprised members of his own party with a Friday afternoon press conference denouncing the Senate plan as written.

America First is a politically active nonprofit run by a former White House aide and Trump campaign veterans.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/pol...X4I/story.html


President Donald Trump invited the Republican Senate caucus to lunch to talk about health care on Wednesday

July 19, 2017

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...are_patsy.html

The most emphatic example of this attempted bullying came with Trump's treatment of Nevada Sen. Dean Heller. The seating arrangements conveniently placed Heller, one of the earliest Senators to come out publicly and vociferously against the initial Senate health care bill, next to the president.

Apparently Plan D in the health care battles, though, is to go back to scapegoating the man representing the Republican party's most vulnerable seat in the Senate. Conservative media started to once again place a target on Heller’s back after the failure of the Senate bill became clear on Monday. Trump is apparently following that game plan.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-thr...tor-doesnt-he/


Trump Threatens Dean Heller To His Face: ‘He Wants To Remain a Senator, Doesn’t He?’


July 19th, 2017

Trump indicated that Heller will now be on board if he wants to remain in office:


“This was the one we were worried about, you weren’t there. You’re going to be. Look, he wants to remain a senator, doesn’t he? Okay, and I think the people of your state, which I know very well, I think they’re going to appreciate whenever you do.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-thr...tor-doesnt-he/

The president continued, as Heller’s smile turned uncomfortable: “I think the people of your state—which I know very well—I think they’re going to appreciate what you hopefully will do.” The president concluded with what can effectively be seen as a word of warning to Republican holdouts: “Any senator who votes against starting debate is really telling America that you’re fine with Obamacare.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-t...ator-doesnt-he

Heller, will walk the plank! The Captain of our Ship of State, is upset with the insubordination of a lowly Senator.


Thursday will mark the end of his first half year in the White House, and Trump’s Presidency is in crisis.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/trumps-clueless-abdication-of-presidential-responsibility

On Wednesday, Trump changed his tune (again), telling Republican senators during a meeting at the White House that they should stay in town until they find a way to replace and repeal Obamacare. But, of course, he has no plan of his own, and no clue.

 

[JackLuis]

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9f3e657dbebb5be9df76c5e34098b423dd89bb39f957fc207d83e4db77688369.jpg?w=600&h=581

 

[JackLuis]

In Leaked Tape Mitch McConnell Admits The Koch Brothers Are Running The Republican Party

An interesting bit of History, from 2014. Mitch on his knees sucking some Koch!

All you Trump Chumps feel a little used yet?

 

[phrodeau]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...000d3c-760d-11e7-9eac-d56bd5568db8_story.html

Senate Republican leaders signaled Monday that they intend to move on from health care to other legislative priorities, even as President Trump continued to pressure lawmakers to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act.

The discord comes amid uncertainty in the insurance industry and on Capitol Hill about what will come next after last week’s dramatic collapse of the GOP’s effort to scrap the seven-year-old landmark law. Trump on Monday threatened to end subsidies to insurers and also took aim at coverage for members of Congress.

But the White House insistence appears to have done little to convince congressional GOP leaders to keep trying. One after another on Monday, top GOP senators said that with no evidence of a plan that could get 50 votes, they were looking for other victories.

Those lazy-assed fuckers are just going to let people suffer until enough of them decide to cooperate and fix the current system.

The GOP should be known as the Party of No Healthcare.

 

[HisArpy]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...000d3c-760d-11e7-9eac-d56bd5568db8_story.html

Those lazy-assed fuckers are just going to let people suffer until enough of them decide to cooperate and fix the current system.

The GOP should be known as the Party of No Healthcare.

If people are "suffering" as you put it, then it's the fault of OBAMACARE not the GOP.

WE TOLD YOU it wouldn't work, but did you listen? No. You thought you knew better than the mathematics proved.

The Democrats fucked up. You broke it, you bought it, so you OWN it.

 

[Hypoxia]

Yup, Romneycare is a turd. Time for single-payer Medicare For All.

BTW the Guppies now own ACA. They've had eight years to write a replacement. They've had this year with total control to push a bill through. They failed because their fixes are widely hated while ACA gains popularity. They've screwed the pooch, so the pooch is theirs. Woof.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Not true.

No one on here or anyone in the D party or Obama himself has ever said Obamacare is perfect. They acknowledge problems, HOWEVER,

you have a President now threatening to attack and sabotage it. Instead of working on fixes and improvements, he wants to DO SHIT to it. That's not exactly "letting it fail on its own" or "letting it" implode.

If the President of the UNited States says Why don't we just hold back on Social Security payments, why, Social Security could implode.

And Obamacare is working. If it "wasn't working," 32 million wouldn't have any healthcare at all. They do.

It doesn't matter how many times Trump spreads his lies. The Rs failed because Obamacare has taken root and people want it to continue. Polls consistently show it has a growing approval and that the great majority do NOT want a Repeal and Replace, they want a Fix.

If people are "suffering" as you put it, then it's the fault of OBAMACARE not the GOP.

WE TOLD YOU it wouldn't work, but did you listen? No. You thought you knew better than the mathematics proved.

The Democrats fucked up. You broke it, you bought it, so you OWN it.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Yup, Romneycare is a turd. Time for single-payer Medicare For All.

BTW the Guppies now own ACA. They've had eight years to write a replacement. They've had this year with total control to push a bill through. They failed because their fixes are widely hated while ACA gains popularity. They've screwed the pooch, so the pooch is theirs. Woof.

No....they don't own ACA, you're just fuckin' retarded.

 

[sr71plt]

Of course the Republicans own the health care issue. They ran on a platform that they could do better than what existed (even while they continue to try to sabotage what exists) and that they could do it quickly. They control both the Congress and the White House. And they are in office, although they don't seem to care about it, to serve the needs of the country's citizens. They refused to share planning--even within their own party congressional delegations--of a better health care program than the previous administration provided. Of course the Republicans in Congress own the health care issue--and, most certainly, the inability to provide one more beneficial to the citizenry than what we now have.

You're full of crap on this, BB (which makes you consistent, though).

 

[phrodeau]

If people are "suffering" as you put it, then it's the fault of OBAMACARE not the GOP.

WE TOLD YOU it wouldn't work, but did you listen? No. You thought you knew better than the mathematics proved.

The Democrats fucked up. You broke it, you bought it, so you OWN it.

The system before Obamacare was much worse. You ought to know that.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Of course the Republicans own the health care issue.

True, but they don't own ACA.

That turd is 100% (D) and (D)ear Leaders landmark HC reform legislation and nobody can take that achievement from them.

They ran on a platform that they could do better than what existed

No they didn't, they (a long list of (R) congress critters and POTUS ) ran on "repealing every single word of Obamacare" and quite a few people were sent to D.C. with that mandate including POTUS. But as it turns out establishment (R)'s love Obamacare, and hate Trump as much as the (D)'s.

So we will get another 4 years of a lame duck government that really doesn't do much of anything and Trump will just EO everything like Obama.

Awesome

Of course the Republicans in Congress own the health care issue--and, most certainly, the inability to provide one more beneficial to the citizenry than what we now have.

If your boy Obama and the DNC hadn't sold you out with ACA in the first place this would be non issue and you probably would be MUCH happier with who was in the WH.

But keep pretending ACA was hot shit until 20JAN2017

You're full of crap on this, BB (which makes you consistent, though).

LOL, I'm sorry but your bullshitting skills just aren't good enough to change the facts. (R) didn't vote for ACA and (R) didn't sign off on it.

So until they repeal it or replace it that turd belongs to your team.

(R)'s failure is to fulfill their mandate and get rid of said turd known as ACA/Obamacare. That doesn't make the turd theirs, it just means it's still stinking the place up after they were hired to clean it up.

 

[sr71plt]

The point is that they don't own anything at all in terms of a health care program that serves the public even as well as the ACA does--after seven years in which they could have come up with something reasonable and didn't. They are as empty as you are.

 

[BotanyBoy]

The point is that they don't own anything at all in terms of a health care program that serves the public even as well as the ACA does--after seven years in which they could have come up with something reasonable and didn't.

And considering their mandate, no fucking shit.

They allegedly don't think it's the government's place to buy everyone a bunch of shit. The only thing they should have done was repeal that turd like they promised and got on with other republican things, like giving me some more tax breaks


BTW the ACA serves the public like a fuckin scam artist or used car salesman. A really bad and totally embarrassing one at that.

They are as empty as you are.

LOL.....projection much??

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Told you you're a fraud.

POTUS was sent to DC on the promise of "better" healthcare. Everyone's going to have it, it's going to be so cheap and so easy and he won't touch Medicaid. THAT'S what he promised, which you would know if you weren't a hack.

The rest of Rs would have looooved to campaign on just repeal, but after 7 years and blowback from constituents and proof Obamacare is working, they were forced to add "Replace With Something Better".

Neither of them wanted that. And if they could have come up with something "better" than Obamacare they would have. They don't "love" it, they hate it, but they're stuck.

Making a mental note of your outsized hatred of Obamacare.

No they didn't, they (a long list of (R) congress critters and POTUS ) ran on "repealing every single word of Obamacare" and quite a few people were sent to D.C. with that mandate including POTUS. But as it turns out establishment (R)'s love Obamacare, and hate Trump as much as the (D)'s.

 

[dan_c00000]

The system before Obamacare was much worse. You ought to know that.

Bot doesn't even know his beloved GOP came up with the plan from Heritage.

Anyway, they're still going to have 3+ more years of taking runs at either repealing the ACA or crippling it so badly it doesn't work. Either way they're going to blame the Democrats.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Told you you're a fraud.

POTUS was sent to DC on the promise of "better" healthcare.

And to repeal every word of Obamacare.

Sorry but it's a verifiable fact that he and numerous congress critters made that promise during their campaigns.

Bot doesn't even know his beloved GOP came up with the plan from Heritage.

Yea I did, everyone knows the (R)'s came up with it, and the (D)'s loved it so much they passed it without even a tiny bit of support from the (R).

You ever find a link to back up your lies about me?

No you didn't because you're a liar.

Either way they're going to blame the Democrats.

Because ACA is their turd.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Which they all failed to do. They could have, six yrs ago, with a R Prez, but they could not now because they HAD to come up with a better replacement.

They couldn't do it. They had no better plan, and now they're helping to polish up the "turd.

Is the ACA behind your manic hatred of Dems?

And to repeal every word of Obamacare.

Sorry but it's a verifiable fact that he and numerous congress critters made that promise during their campaigns.




Yea I did, everyone knows the (R)'s came up with it, and the (D)'s loved it so much they passed it without even a tiny bit of support from the (R).

You ever find a link to back up your lies about me?

No you didn't because you're a liar.



Because ACA is their turd.

 

[sr71plt]

Bot doesn't even know his beloved GOP came up with the plan from Heritage.

Yes, this is the most amusing part of all of this (if any of it could be called anything but stomach turning).

 

[dan_c00000]

Yes, this is the most amusing part of all of this (if any of it could be called anything but stomach turning).

It's all just sad really. The GOP base keeps sending clowns to Washington/state capitals and then they wonder why a bunch of reality show, moronic racists can't figure out how to pass a law. But hey, they taught those uppity black people not to mess with their country.

 

[JackLuis]

‘Time to Move On’: Senate G.O.P. Flouts Trump After Health Care Defeat

if a few months ago President Trump’s scattershot demands might have sent the chamber into a lather, compelling lawmakers to honor his megaphone, the collective shrugs at his rage over last week’s failed health care repeal vote have signaled a new phase in this shotgun marriage of unified Republican rule.

Congressional fear is low. Eyes are rolling with greater velocity. Executive instructions on how to proceed are being ignored as a matter of course.

“We’ve got other things to do,” Senator John Thune, Republican of South Dakota, said after Mr. Trump insisted that the party refuse to take up other issues with the repeal pledge unfulfilled.

“It’s time to move on,” Senator Roy Blunt, Republican of Missouri, said as Mr. Trump and Mick Mulvaney, the budget director, said that no other votes should be held until lawmakers try again on health care.

Mitch may still be Froggy on HC, but the GOP is more interested in Taxes!

 

[BotanyBoy]

Which they all failed to do.

Right, so we still have the Democrat failure known as ACA for a HC system.

They could have, six yrs ago, with a R Prez, but they could not now because they HAD to come up with a better replacement.

They couldn't do it. They had no better plan, and now they're helping to polish up the "turd.

And if the (D)'s hadn't sold out the working/middle class in the first place this wouldn't be an issue and Clinton would be in office.

Is the ACA behind your manic hatred of Dems?

I don't have a manic hatred of Dems, I'm just not under the delusion that it was Republicans that voted for and signed ACA into law like all the (D)'s desperate to rid themselves of it.