It's time for single-payer

[Tristyn]

Washington's inability to fix Obamacare is doing lasting damage to the American people. We need a healthcare plan that benefits ALL Americans.

It's time to adopt Bernie's single-payer healthcare plan.

Medicare for All: Leaving No One Behind
https://berniesanders.com/issues/medicare-for-all/

 

[Rightguide]

Communism isn't the answer. What we need in America is an "American" program, not a tired European Socialist plan that fails in efficiency, quality, and sustainability.

 

[pointless]

it's been time, but that's not going to happen.

 

[Tristyn]

The American people have finally realized it was a mistake electing Donald Trump. Bernie was the answer in 2016 & could still be the answer in 2020.

If not Bernie, then Liz.

It's going to happen, RG. You and your alt-right friends need to accept that fact.

 

[Tristyn]

it's been time, but that's not going to happen.

What is going to happen?

 

[pointless]

nothing good.

 

[Tristyn]

nothing good.

That's not an acceptable answer.

 

[trysail]

"The most common of all follies is to believe passionately in the palpably not true. It is the chief occupation of mankind."

-H.L. Mencken​

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[Rightguide]

The American people have finally realized it was a mistake electing Donald Trump. Bernie was the answer in 2016 & could still be the answer in 2020.

If not Bernie, then Liz.

It's going to happen, RG. You and your alt-right friends need to accept that fact.

Electing either will result in the greatest loss of liberty in US history. You will live a life where all are equally miserable and the only sector that grows and flourishes is the government. I don't hate you enough to hope it comes to pass, but feel free to take that ignorance to the voting booth.

 

[trysail]

TANSTAAFL



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[Tristyn]

"The most common of all follies is to believe passionately in the palpably not true. It is the chief occupation of mankind."

-H.L. Mencken​

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Is that your answer to healthcare?

A quote?

 

[trysail]

This thread is yet another example of a flight of utopian socialist fancy.



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[Tristyn]

Electing either will result in the greatest loss of liberty in US history. You will live a life where all are equally miserable and the only sector that grows and flourishes is the government. I don't hate you enough to hope it comes to pass, but feel free to take that ignorance to the voting booth.

How do you suggest we should address the healthcare issue we're facing?

 

[Tristyn]

This thread is yet another example of a flight of utopian socialist fancy.



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In other words, you have no solution.

 

[Nipples_Mcgee1]

Is that your answer to healthcare?

A quote?

Tryfail is good for mostly posting vapid articles and graphs nobody cares about.

 

[Rightguide]

The American people have finally realized it was a mistake electing Donald Trump. Bernie was the answer in 2016 & could still be the answer in 2020.

If not Bernie, then Liz.

It's going to happen, RG. You and your alt-right friends need to accept that fact.

By the way, the term "alt" right is a mythological left wing construction. Single payer will collapse just like Obamacare, only in doing so, it will take the American economy and our liberty with it.

 

[trysail]

Tryfail is good for mostly posting vapid articles and graphs nobody cares about.

Ah, yes. It's the easily recognized, poorly-disguised, resurrected promoter of Santa Claus, unicorns and the Tooth Fairy.


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[Rightguide]

How do you suggest we should address the healthcare issue we're facing?

Let the government subsidize those in "real" need and allow the private market sort it out. The key to success is to remove the government as the major factor from the equation.

 

[Radiohead]

Id think this will be the last post that 60% of americans on lit will see.

Btw, America is bankrupt, the government is bankrupt, and theres no way in hell that bernies idea (stolen) would ever be paid for.

 

[Tristyn]

Let the government subsidize those in "real" need and allow the private market sort it out. The key to success is to remove the government as the major factor from the equation.

You didn't answer my question.

I'm not looking for Republican talking points.

I'm looking for a real answer to a real problem.

 

[Tristyn]

Id think this will be the last post that 60% of americans on lit will see.

Btw, America is bankrupt, the government is bankrupt, and theres no way in hell that bernies idea (stolen) would ever be paid for.

Is that how you'd address our healthcare problems? By bitching about it?

How would you fix it?

 

[Radiohead]

Is that how you'd address our healthcare problems? By bitching about it?

How would you fix it?

Im in Australia.

Yeah, that is what I would do.

 

[Tristyn]

Im in Australia.

Yeah, that is what I would do.

In other words, you have no solution.

 

[Rightguide]

You didn't answer my question.

I'm not looking for Republican talking points.

I'm looking for a real answer to a real problem.

I just gave you the answer, Use the model that served us greatly for generations. The only reason our medical system became degraded can be correlated to the amount of government intervention and regulation imposed on it.

If you want to see what your 'single payer" system will look like just look at the VA system that's killing our veterans right now. Totally government run and managed, which is exactly what will happen in your proposed system if the government is paying 100% the bills.

 

[Que]

it's been time, but that's not going to happen.

That was sort of the point of constructing Obamacare the way it was . It was designed to collapse insurance companies. Whhen we are all out of insuranse companies we won't really have any choice.

It would certainly be more honest system than we have now.

I think if you asked your great-grandparents if we would have her have had the social security system and Medicare they would have laughed at the idea.

On paper there are some great things about it I personally don't think any of it works because the economies of scale never materialize, bbecause they get eaten up by the inefficiency of bureaucracies.