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Don Jr.'s Russia meeting wasn't collusion

Today, Trump Jr. released his emails on Twitter. One states, “the crown prosecutor of Russia” had offered “to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.” Rod Goldstone, a publicist, stated, “This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”

That would clearly constitute at least initial communications and possible coordination between the Russians and the Trump campaign. However, the article raises more questions than answers. If the Russians were making such a play to influence the election in favor of Trump, this is a curious way of going about it. The most obvious question is why the Russians would call such a meeting but not actually produce any evidence or even substantive allegations.

For Vermont Law professor Jennifer Taub, the inkblot looks like a conspiracy to defraud the United States. She believes that prosecutors could charge the participants with seeking to defraud the United States under 18 U.S.C. 371 by going to a meeting to hear evidence that another party may have committed a crime … against the United States. No such evidence was offered, and no further actions are known to have occurred. There has never been a case under 18 U.S.C. 371 that even remotely resembles such a distortive claim.

One image that a lot of experts see in these stories is a possible violation of the federal law banning foreign contributions to federal campaigns — ironically the very claim that the meeting was called to discuss with regard to Hillary Clinton. The relevant law is 36 U.S.C. 510, which bars direct or indirect contributions or other things of value from a foreign national. MSNBC justice and security analyst Matthew Miller said Trump Jr. could now go to jail because “it doesn’t have to be money … it can be, potentially, accepting information. So he’s potentially confessing in his statement to committing a crime.”

Of course, the crux is “other thing of value.” Under this approach, a court would have to include information as a thing of value like money and then declare that Trump Jr. solicited the information by agreeing to go to the meeting. If that were the case, the wide array of meetings by politicians and their aides with foreign nationals would suddenly become possible criminal violations.
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http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...n-don-jrs-russia-meeting-wasnt-collusion-just
 
"... other things of value?" How does one value "dirt" on an opponents political campaign?
 
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Hey remember this morning when everyone was saying there's no email? That the very existence of the email was fake news hearsay? Good Times!
 
Nipples_Mcgee1 said:
LOL.

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange: I told Donald Trump Jr. to release emails

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange on Tuesday claimed that Donald Trump Jr. releasing his own emails was the result of a conversation they had.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news.../11/julian-assange-i-told-trump-jr/469536001/
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Still, Assange disagreed with how Trump Jr. revealed the emails. He said it would have been "safer" for the oldest son of President Trump to publish the emails with WikiLeaks so it would have an "anonymous source."

"By publishing it himself it is easier to submit as evidence," Assange said.

:) <---- Not Donnie, Jr. smiling
 
Pookie said:
I'll just leave this here ...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20
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Ishmael said:
That's one stupid link.

Sources people, sources.

Ishmael
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Pookie said:
What makes it stupid, Ish?
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Ish????


Oh well, I'll just leave this here instead of making another post just for it ...


A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.


and this ...


No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d) of this section.
 
All of this begs the question - What did The Donald know, and when did he know it?

We're just a tweet rant away from knowing more. :)
 
Pookie said:
Ish????


Oh well, I'll just leave this here instead of making another post just for it ...


A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.


and this ...


No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d) of this section.
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Junior, Manafort and Kushner are in serious trouble.
 
Just a month after he was promised information from the Russian government on Clinton, Trump Jr. rejected the Clinton campaign's claims of a Russian effort to boost the Trump campaign.

"This just goes to show you their exact moral compass. I mean, they will say anything to be able to win this," Trump Jr. told CNN's Jake Tapper. "It's disgusting. It's so phony."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/11/politics/trump-jr-russia-lawyer-emails/index.html


:eek:
 
Sean said:
Junior, Manafort and Kushner are in serious trouble.
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Very serious trouble. Junior is dumber than Vetteman to have released those emails. It's a freaking self-admission. All three face indictment before Daddy pardons them.
 
The good thing out of all of this, when Ivanka divorces Jailbird Jared, Lance can take his shot at her!

:cool:
 
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Imagine Watergate. But one of Nixon's kids kept uploading all the tapes to Soundcloud
 
Sean said:
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Imagine Watergate. But one of Nixon's kids kept uploading all the tapes to Soundcloud
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Twitter is their worst enemy. Seriously.
 
Pookie said:
Very serious trouble. Junior is dumber than Vetteman to have released those emails. It's a freaking self-admission. All three face indictment before Daddy pardons them.
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It was very stupid, but no one is dumber than Vetteman.
 
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