Sessions' testimony confirms he's unfit to be US AG

Russia did not hack the election process! What part of that simple statement is so fucking difficult to grasp. They influenced public opinion of a candidate by hacking that candidate's party's e-mails. They did not hack vote counting computers and equipment. They unduly helped in creating distrust in an American politician. They did not hack the election process.

I swear the RWCJerkers around here have some form of dyslexia!

Then why do Democrats continue to maintain they did?
 
Congress makes the laws.
The correct question is, "What was Congress doing to ensure companies and states make sure we have secure election systems?"

Unfit because he expressed no interest in what the Russians did and are doing.
Just like I said in the OP. You're as clueless as Connie. :rolleyes:

Congress is not the CinC in charge of the US Cyber Command.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Russia did not hack the election process! What part of that simple statement is so fucking difficult to grasp. They influenced public opinion of a candidate by hacking that candidate's party's e-mails. They did not hack vote counting computers and equipment. They unduly helped in creating distrust in an American politician. They did not hack the election process.
If you consider the companies that build, and distribute updates to, the polling systems or the voter registration databases as part of the election process then they did hack the election process.

There was circumstantial publicly available evidence months ago of it and last week it was publicly confirmed that they succeeded in attacking those systems.
 
Washington DC is the most powerful and richest city in the entire world. It is Rome.


Government corruption and ineffective leadership, political instability and citizens divided and losing faith and trust in their government, overspending and a crippling debt, with economic troubles increasing due to dependence on foreign goods and resources, coupled with an unwillingness to work with its neighbours and trading partners, and a populace getting fed up with it all...Let's not even get started on the military and the spending there.

Sounds exactly like Rome, just before it fell.

Might be ignorance, could be hubris, likely a bit o' both, but if y'all don't get your collective heads out of your asses, the century of America will be over.
 
Russian cyber hacks on U.S. electoral system far wider than previously known

Russia’s cyberattack on the U.S. electoral system before Donald Trump’s election was far more widespread than has been publicly revealed, including incursions into voter databases and software systems in almost twice as many states as previously reported.

In Illinois, investigators found evidence that cyber intruders tried to delete or alter voter data. The hackers accessed software designed to be used by poll workers on Election Day, and in at least one state accessed a campaign finance database. Details of the wave of attacks, in the summer and fall of 2016, were provided by three people with direct knowledge of the U.S. investigation into the matter. In all, the Russian hackers hit systems in a total of 39 states, one of them said.

The scope and sophistication so concerned Obama administration officials that they took an unprecedented step -- complaining directly to Moscow over a modern-day “red phone.” In October, two of the people said, the White House contacted the Kremlin on the back channel to offer detailed documents of what it said was Russia’s role in election meddling and to warn that the attacks risked setting off a broader conflict.

The new details, buttressed by a classified National Security Agency document recently disclosed by the Intercept, show the scope of alleged hacking that federal investigators are scrutinizing as they look into whether Trump campaign officials may have colluded in the efforts. But they also paint a worrisome picture for future elections: The newest portrayal of potentially deep vulnerabilities in the U.S.’s patchwork of voting technologies comes less than a week after former FBI Director James Comey warned Congress that Moscow isn’t done meddling.

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...h-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-elections
 
Congress is not the CinC in charge of the US Cyber Command.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Oh, I see, you advocate a directive from the White Hourse for the Feds to start monitoring private companies' internal networks and state networks.

See, that's where we differ, I happen to believe that would be a completely wrong thing to do.
 
Nobody can say what it was, when it happened, and what damage it resulted in. The big question is why didn't Obama, Clapper, Rice, and Brennan, protect us from it? It happened on their watch.
Has Trump ordered the investigation yet?
 
If you consider the companies that build, and distribute updates to, the polling systems or the voter registration databases as part of the election process then they did hack the election process.

There was circumstantial publicly available evidence months ago of it and last week it was publicly confirmed that they succeeded in attacking those systems.

Link please. News to this benighted foreigner.
 
Okay, which city is richer?

Shanghai, China
Moscow, Russia
Osaka, Japan
Paris, France
London, England
Seoul, South Korea
Los Angeles, USA
New York, USA
Tokyo, Japan

I wouldn't be surprised if DC didn't crack the top 100.

4est_4est_Gump said:
On the latter, there is still no proof other than there is pretty much no longer an investigation into Russian meddling, which I will concede, as per my prior remarks, probably did happen, but it is not unique and not something that we are also guilty of. The WaPo is now trying to make us believe that the new serious charge is obstruction of justice. I think that will also come up three lemons since on more than one occasion, Trump directed Comey to find malfeasance on the part of his team...

If we agree meddling in the 2016 presidential campaigns and electoral process occurred, and we are concerned for the integrity of our democracy, shouldn't we also agree there should be a vigorous effort to protect our democracy? If Trump wanted to give the appearance of strong leadership, he should be the most full-throated about an independent investigation into Russian meddling; defence of our democracy would be one thing that unites both Republicans and Democrats.
 
Congress makes the laws.
The correct question is, "What was Congress doing to ensure companies and states make sure we have secure election systems?"

Unfit because he expressed no interest in what the Russians did and are doing.
Just like I said in the OP. You're as clueless as Connie. :rolleyes:

He has RECUSED HIMSELF from the investigation. That doesn't mean he isn't interested, it means he CANNOT get involved. So when he's asked questions about the investigation what do you expect him to say? That he'll have answers to questions about the investigation even though he is NOT ALLOWED to access the files?

Honestly, you're embarrassing yourself here.
 
He has RECUSED HIMSELF from the investigation. That doesn't mean he isn't interested, it means he CANNOT get involved. So when he's asked questions about the investigation what do you expect him to say? That he'll have answers to questions about the investigation even though he is NOT ALLOWED to access the files?

Honestly, you're embarrassing yourself here.

That's pretty shitty reasoning, HisConnie.
 
He has RECUSED HIMSELF from the investigation. That doesn't mean he isn't interested, it means he CANNOT get involved. So when he's asked questions about the investigation what do you expect him to say? That he'll have answers to questions about the investigation even though he is NOT ALLOWED to access the files?
:rolleyes:
He had almost a full month after his confirmation to express an interest before he recused himself.

Honestly, you're embarrassing yourself here.
Yes, you are.
 
They never succeeded in their attempts. Tried awful hard but never actually penetrated the system. So no actual hack of vote counting computers. Close but no cigar. They did gain access to Illinois voter database though.
They did, the penetrated one of the companies that supplies polling systems and were able to send emails to state officials posing as someone who worked for the company.

Better hope security improves in the next 3 years or else you will have Boaty McBoatface as POTUS.
I have exactly zero faith that anything will change.
And it's not 3 years, it's next year the next major elections.
 
:rolleyes:
He had almost a full month after his confirmation to express an interest before he recused himself.

Yes, you are.

I think you inhabit the same alternative dimension as Hard Rom.

Sessions knew he was probably going to have to recuse himself. Why would he endanger the investigation by sticking his nose into it?
 
Sessions knew he was probably going to have to recuse himself. Why would he endanger the investigation by sticking his nose into it?
So now you're a mind reader.

So what was his reason for waiting a month to recuse himself if he knew he would have to?

What was his reason for not stating in his testimony, "I knew I would have to recuse myself so I never got briefed..."

Why you're making shit up, explain why it would endanger if for Session to ask about it, but didn't endanger it for Trump to ask about it?
 
I think you inhabit the same alternative dimension as Hard Rom.

Sessions knew he was probably going to have to recuse himself. Why would he endanger the investigation by sticking his nose into it?
A. It's his job to be fully informed on all ongoing investigations.

B. Learning about the investigation doesn't impact the investigation at all, even if he planned to recuse himself.
 
So now you're a mind reader.

So what was his reason for waiting a month to recuse himself if he knew he would have to?

What was his reason for not stating in his testimony, "I knew I would have to recuse myself so I never got briefed..."

Why you're making shit up, explain why it would endanger if for Session to ask about it, but didn't endanger it for Trump to ask about it?

Not a mind reader. It was well understood that Sessions would recuse himself. He did so 2 weeks after a conversation with Trump about it on Feb 14th.

Comey also understood that Sessions would recuse himself.

Ousted FBI Director James Comey said the law enforcement agency expected Attorney General Jeff Sessions to recuse himself from the Russia investigation.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/336938-comey-fbi-expected-sessions-to-recuse-himself



What you are trying to do infer something from nothing and then challenging the opposition to prove the negative. It is not my obligation to prove he was innocent of the motives you ascribe. It is your duty to find evidence of illegality. So far you've arrived at inuendo and have gone no further than; "but, but, but....".
 
A. It's his job to be fully informed on all ongoing investigations.

B. Learning about the investigation doesn't impact the investigation at all, even if he planned to recuse himself.

*snort* As if a person of interest in an active FBI investigation is going to be given evidence to play with... How dumb to you have to be to think this?

You know what? I'm tired of your bullshit theories and wild ass statements about things you have now proven you know nothing about and cannot and will not bother to educate yourself on anything.

'bye.
 
Oh, I see, you advocate a directive from the White Hourse for the Feds to start monitoring private companies' internal networks and state networks.

See, that's where we differ, I happen to believe that would be a completely wrong thing to do.

You're full of crap. I never suggested any such thing. You tried to suggest laws exist that prevent the President from taking retaliatory cyber actions against the Russians. The US Cyber Command can take action against anyone threatening the interests of the US on direction from the CinC.
 
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