Republican Senator: time to move on from collusion investigation

[someoneyouknow]

When it came time to investigate possible use of a private email server by Hillary Clinton, just like her predecessor Colin Powell had done, and Condoleeza Rice had also used private, unsecured email during her job, no expense was spared. There was no end to Congressional investigations, or investigation by the FBI, and when the results came back that no crime was committed, only ineptitude, the hue and cry was heard round the world.

Yet, with evidence of collusion between one political campaign piling up on an almost daily basis, and the con artist having ordered the head of the FBI to shut down the investigation into the collusion, meh, no big deal.

Such is the attitude of Republican Senator Mike Lee whose sole job is to run interference for the con artist on the Senate committee investigating the collusion. Lee said that even if Comey’s testimony is true, “I don't see that that amounts to obstruction."

To reiterate, the head of the FBI telling a Senate committee, and the world, that the president of the United States ordered him to shut down the investigation of the con artist's collusion with Russia during the presidential campaign is no big deal, and in no way should be considered obstruction of justice.

One can only imagine what Senator Lee's response would be if Hillary Clinton were president and had done the same thing.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/time-move-probe-russia-collusion-trump-obstruction-gop/story?id=47960861

 

[handysr]

You forgot about the wide range of amnesty given to almost everyone in the hillary investigation, improper interview procedures, and the AG telling the FBI to let 'me slide. There's more, but I won't bother to write what you won't either read or believe. Saint hillary can do no wrong to the liberal masses.

Even if there was some convo between Russia and the US, so what? Trump didn't need their help to win, the D side doomed themselves.

Surely there's something important to focus on.

 

[Boxlicker101]

When it came time to investigate possible use of a private email server by Hillary Clinton, just like her predecessor Colin Powell had done, and Condoleeza Rice had also used private, unsecured email during her job, no expense was spared. There was no end to Congressional investigations, or investigation by the FBI, and when the results came back that no crime was committed, only ineptitude, the hue and cry was heard round the world.

Yet, with evidence of collusion between one political campaign piling up on an almost daily basis, and the con artist having ordered the head of the FBI to shut down the investigation into the collusion, meh, no big deal.

Such is the attitude of Republican Senator Mike Lee whose sole job is to run interference for the con artist on the Senate committee investigating the collusion. Lee said that even if Comey’s testimony is true, “I don't see that that amounts to obstruction."

To reiterate, the head of the FBI telling a Senate committee, and the world, that the president of the United States ordered him to shut down the investigation of the con artist's collusion with Russia during the presidential campaign is no big deal, and in no way should be considered obstruction of justice.

One can only imagine what Senator Lee's response would be if Hillary Clinton were president and had done the same thing.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/time-move-probe-russia-collusion-trump-obstruction-gop/story?id=47960861

What evidence has "piled up" today? Or yesterday? Or the day before that? In fact, what actual evidence has "piled up" at all?

Did the president actually order the FBI head to shut down the investigation?

 

[sr71plt]

What evidence has "piled up" today? Or yesterday? Or the day before that? In fact, what actual evidence has "piled up" at all?

Did the president actually order the FBI head to shut down the investigation?

One of Trump's dippy sons gave an interview today (it's referenced somewhere here--go look it up yourself) declaring that his father directed Comey to stop the investigation. That's pretty damning evidence dropping in today. Wait a day and Trump will tweet that himself.

 

[Boxlicker101]

One of Trump's dippy sons gave an interview today (it's referenced somewhere here--go look it up yourself) declaring that his father directed Comey to stop the investigation. That's pretty damning evidence dropping in today. Wait a day and Trump will tweet that himself.

This might be the one: http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-jr-james-comey-oval-office-meeting-trump-2017-6

However, there is a big difference between asking or suggesting and ordering, which was the term with which I too exception.

ETA: Even in the link from the OP, Comey doesn't use that strong a term.

 

[sr71plt]

You asked for something new today--something that provided more evidence. The son contradicted the father today. All of this lying by these vile people builds up evidence.

 

[Boxlicker101]

You asked for something new today--something that provided more evidence. The son contradicted the father today. All of this lying by these vile people builds up evidence.

How does this prove anything about colluding with Russia?

 

[magicalmoments]

Even when Trump is finally and officially found to be a criminally insane dickhead the trumptards are still going to cry, "but what about Clinton?!"

 

[phrodeau]

How does this prove anything about colluding with Russia?

Add in Trump's recent tax returns, and QED.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Add in Trump's recent tax returns, and QED.

What do Trump's tax returns have to do with anything? He s not required to show them, although he can if he wants to. How long did it take before Obama finally produced a valid birth certificate and proved he was Constitutionally eligible to be POTUS? Were you complaining about that delay?

 

[phrodeau]

What do Trump's tax returns have to do with anything? He s not required to show them, although he can if he wants to. How long did it take before Obama finally produced a valid birth certificate and proved he was Constitutionally eligible to be POTUS? Were you complaining about that delay?

It was two months, I believe, after the first birthers accused him of being Kenyan, that Obama made his birth certificate public. Just because it wasn't good enough for you, and he had to get another copy, is irrelevant.

And sure, that topic is completely relevant to the investigation of collusion, since Trump got the idea to attack Obama's nationality from Putin.

 

[Boxlicker101]

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Originally Posted by Boxlicker101

What do Trump's tax returns have to do with anything? He s not required to show them, although he can if he wants to. How long did it take before Obama finally produced a valid birth certificate and proved he was Constitutionally eligible to be POTUS? Were you complaining about that delay?

It was two months, I believe, after the first birthers accused him of being Kenyan, that Obama made his birth certificate public. Just because it wasn't good enough for you, and he had to get another copy, is irrelevant.

And sure, that topic is completely relevant to the investigation of collusion, since Trump got the idea to attack Obama's nationality from Putin.

That's why I specified a valid birth certificate, rather than the short form he supplied. Personally, I had already accepted other proof.

Are you actually privy to communications between Trump and Putin? If not, can you prove what was said?

If Trump got the idea from anywhere, it would have been the HRC 2008 campaign for the Dem. nomination. But he also accepted Obama's eligibility in 2011.

 

[Hard_Rom]

What evidence has "piled up" today? Or yesterday? Or the day before that? In fact, what actual evidence has "piled up" at all?

Did the president actually order the FBI head to shut down the investigation?

Did Michael Corleone actually order the killing of his brother, Fredo? And don't get you panties in a bunch over a movie reference. You think that a POTUS would actually order something like that? Or would he just tip toe around it with some innuendo thrown in. Do you actually think that when Trump officials met with Russian contacts they actually discussed hacking e-mails and influencing elections?

 

[JackLuis]

While you quibble about irrelevant issues, remember that the 'investigation' is on going and the FBI hasn't presented their 'classified' evidence. We don't know what they know, and we won't until they present their evidence, if they ever do.

It is time for the truth to come out. It is time to unmask the whole sorry mess.

 

[HisArpy]

When it came time to investigate possible use of a private email server by Hillary Clinton, just like her predecessor Colin Powell had done,(*) and Condoleeza Rice had also used private, unsecured email during her job(**), no expense was spared. There was no end to Congressional investigations, or investigation by the FBI, and when the results came back that no crime was committed, only ineptitude, the hue and cry was heard round the world.

Yet, with evidence of collusion between one political campaign piling up on an almost daily basis, and the con artist having ordered the head of the FBI to shut down the investigation into the collusion(***), meh, no big deal.

Such is the attitude of Republican Senator Mike Lee whose sole job is to run interference for the con artist on the Senate committee investigating the collusion. Lee said that even if Comey’s testimony is true, “I don't see that that amounts to obstruction."

To reiterate, the head of the FBI telling a Senate committee, and the world, that the president of the United States ordered him to shut down the investigation of the con artist's collusion with Russia during the presidential campaign is no big deal, and in no way should be considered obstruction of justice.

One can only imagine what Senator Lee's response would be if Hillary Clinton were president and had done the same thing.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/time-move-probe-russia-collusion-trump-obstruction-gop/story?id=47960861

Several outright LIES in this piece.


* Colin Powell has said that he did not use a PRIVATE EMAIL SERVER, he use a Commercial email account.

Clinton and Powell were the only two secretaries of state who used personal email accounts “on an exclusive basis for day-to-day operations,” according to the IG report. Unlike Clinton, Powell didn’t use a private server. As the report notes, Powell said on “Meet the Press” on Sept. 6, 2015, that he used a commercial email account.

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/06/partisan-spin-on-clintons-emails/

** Condeleeza Rice did not use email AT ALL during her term.

An aide to Rice, who now teaches at Stanford University, said that Rice herself never used email -- not even a personal email account -- during her tenure.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/polit...fied-colin-powell-condoleezza-rice/index.html

*** There is no evidence that Trump ordered Comey to stop the investigation of Russian Collusion.

[W]hen senators specifically asked Comey if Trump directed him or ordered him to back off, he said "Not in his words, no."

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2017/jun/09/how-pundits-twisted-james-comeys-testimony/

So, apparently you've built an entire tirade on false data and then used it to vilify someone. You should get your facts straight the next time you attempt to do the same.

 

[Boxlicker101]

In addition to everything in the previous post, Hillary did commit numerous crimes. Here is a list: https://us.search.yahoo.com/yhs/sea...r=10.0&os=Windows+10+Home&p=crimes+of+Hillary

Some of these may be baseless, but she did destroy evidence in an ongoing investigation, and that is certainly a crime, even though the now-discredited Comey might say otherwise.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

ETA: This is about the Flynn order to "let it go"


Well, no, besides the sworn testimony of the FBI Director under oath to Congress that that's exactly what he did, and Comey's contemporaneous notes, and the fact that he reported and shared the content of the conversations with several top people at the FBI, who will all be called to testify:

One by one this winter, then-FBI Director James B. Comey pulled aside three of the bureau’s top officials for private chats. In calm tones, he told each of them about a private Oval Office meeting with President Trump — during which, Comey alleged, the president pressed him to shut down the federal criminal investigation of Trump’s then-national security adviser, Michael Flynn.

Those three officials, according to two people with detailed, firsthand knowledge of the matter, were Jim Rybicki, Comey’s chief of staff and senior counselor; James Baker, the FBI’s general counsel; and Andrew McCabe, then the bureau’s deputy director, and now the acting director, following Trump’s firing of Comey last month. Comey spoke to them within two days of his Oval conversation with Trump, the sources said, and recounted the president’s comments about the Flynn investigation.

The Senate has said they will be calling them.

This is "evidence."

If you choose to think it's all a vast conspiracy of liars, go right ahead.

*** There is no evidence that Trump ordered Comey to stop the investigation of Russian Collusion..

 

[Carnal_Flower]

You're entitled to your opinions, of course, but you don't have a good track record so far.

You were wrong about:

1. Devin Nunes

2. Greg Gianforte

3. Hillary Clinton. No evidence of crime, no arrest. Nothing to see here, folks, move along.

I predict you will be just as wrong about Trump and Russia.

What evidence has "piled up" today? Or yesterday? Or the day before that? In fact, what actual evidence has "piled up" at all?

Did the president actually order the FBI head to shut down the investigation?

 

[AnAmericanDarling]

When it came time to investigate possible use of a private email server by Hillary Clinton, just like her predecessor Colin Powell had done, and Condoleeza Rice had also used private, unsecured email during her job, no expense was spared. There was no end to Congressional investigations, or investigation by the FBI, and when the results came back that no crime was committed, only ineptitude, the hue and cry was heard round the world.

Yet, with evidence of collusion between one political campaign piling up on an almost daily basis, and the con artist having ordered the head of the FBI to shut down the investigation into the collusion, meh, no big deal.

Such is the attitude of Republican Senator Mike Lee whose sole job is to run interference for the con artist on the Senate committee investigating the collusion. Lee said that even if Comey’s testimony is true, “I don't see that that amounts to obstruction."

To reiterate, the head of the FBI telling a Senate committee, and the world, that the president of the United States ordered him to shut down the investigation of the con artist's collusion with Russia during the presidential campaign is no big deal, and in no way should be considered obstruction of justice.

One can only imagine what Senator Lee's response would be if Hillary Clinton were president and had done the same thing.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/time-move-probe-russia-collusion-trump-obstruction-gop/story?id=47960861

I'm not in the least surprised here that Senator Lee tried to pull a fast one over the Americans. And I completely agree - if this were Hillary as Commander-in-Chief, they wouldn't let her get away with one damned thing. The Republicans are now having a hissy fit because Trump's presidency has been one big mess after the ever - there's no saving face here.

 

[Lustful_Intentions]

I'm not in the least surprised here that Senator Lee tried to pull a fast one over the Americans. And I completely agree - if this were Hillary as Commander-in-Chief, they wouldn't let her get away with one damned thing. The Republicans are now having a hissy fit because Trump's presidency has been one big mess after the ever - there's no saving face here.

If Hillary had won the Electoral College, the Republicans would have been looking for an excuse to begin impeachment proceedings by no later than 12 noon on January 21st.

 

[AnAmericanDarling]

What do Trump's tax returns have to do with anything? He s not required to show them, although he can if he wants to. How long did it take before Obama finally produced a valid birth certificate and proved he was Constitutionally eligible to be POTUS? Were you complaining about that delay?

You're an absolute dodo bird to be/have been a birther. That was the Republicans neat little bow of being in denial of having a black president - something, to this day, that they could not comprehend. (By the way, Box, no one is impressed by the black woman in your avatar. That doesn't make you a tolerant person.) But Republicans, they'll take Donald Trump who has a single-digit-IQ all day long. Go figure.