So it was a Democrat who tried to influence the election

[water505]

Who was it that said they're everything they accuse the GOP of? They were dead on.

 

[TalkRadio]

Who was it that said they're everything they accuse the GOP of? They were dead on.

In addition to the Democrats, you need to add the two biggest Republican "Never Trumpers" to the equation - Ryan and McConnell.

 

[Rightguide]

Who was it that said they're everything they accuse the GOP of? They were dead on.

We know the Obama administration was using national security intelligence assets to spy on political opponents.

 

[Hashtag47]

Who was it that said they're everything they accuse the GOP of? They were dead on.

Stfu, miles you whiny little cunt.

 

[hashtag24]

Who was it that said they're everything they accuse the GOP of? They were dead on.

STFU, miles you whiny little cunt.

 

[water505]

We know the Obama administration was using national security intelligence assets to spy on political opponents.

You say that like something is wrong with it.

 

[james_1957]

Democrats are becoming all they claim to hate

Who was it that said they're everything they accuse the GOP of? They were dead on.

It is clear now that Democrats learned all the worst lessons from the conduct of their political opponents over the course of the Obama presidency. With unchecked bitterness, Democrats have convinced themselves that the right did little more than obstruct, distract, and indulge their basest impulses for eight years. For this, they were rewarded with total control of all the levers of government in Washington. Thus, anticipating rewards, Democrats have embraced a policy of strategic incoherence with no grander objective than mollifying their base. In the process, they’ve become the very creatures they once claimed to oppose.

The Democratic rallying cry that Donald Trump has no right to the office he presently occupies is an argument that hardly merits much attention. It consists entirely of the contention that he didn’t really win states no Republican presidential candidate has won in almost 30 years—Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, namely—because Russian intervention into the election might have changed how voters intended to cast their ballots. That’s at least the most lucid of the conspiracy theories rattling around bleaker corners of the liberal hive.

This is an unfalsifiable claim, as are most conspiracy theories. It can neither be proven nor denied. Republicans who do not dispute FBI Director Jim Comey’s assertion that Russia did seek to alter the course of American political events with the aim of helping Donald Trump win the White House are not wrong to note that the chaos Moscow midwifed did not prevent Hillary Clinton from dedicating time and resources to the swing states she lost. To take the Russia conspiracy theory seriously is, however, to miss the point. “Birthers” had no use for evidence to support their contention that Barack Obama was an illegitimate president, and the notion that Donald Trump’s resounding Electoral College victory simply doesn’t count is meant to be felt, not scrutinized.

So here we are, with Republicans becoming victims of their own success and Democrats prisoners of their failures. It seems, however, that Democrats have caricatured Republicans and are now mimicking the cartoon of the GOP that exists in their minds. Democrats are convinced that they do not have to display moderation or even basic cogency to win back the power they lost in the Obama years, and they might be right. If they’re wrong, though, and if the tactically foolish sacrifices of authority and credibility they’re making today do not pay off, they’ll find themselves in an even more cynical and embittered place than they are in today. And with a more radicalized base nursing a sense of betrayal, the Democratic Party’s time in the wilderness may last a while.

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/...mocrats/democratic-party-lost-mind-mimic-gop/

 

[Boxlicker101]

Of course, this kind of thing has been SOP since the Nixon years.

 

[cowslinger64]

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/...mocrats/democratic-party-lost-mind-mimic-gop/

Sorry.. Link is a right wing rag... As such has no credibility in any political discussion.

You and vette don't get it both ways.

 

[james_1957]

Sorry.. Link is a right wing rag... As such has no credibility in any political discussion.

You and vette don't get it both ways.

I'm happy with Michigan's 16 electoral votes.

I have them safely secured in my vintage Al Gore lockbox that I purchased on eBay.

 

[mark_j]

Sorry.. Link is a right wing rag... As such has no credibility in any political discussion.

You and vette don't get it both ways.

Which would make it about as un-biased as Huffpo, Salon or Politico.

 

[cowslinger64]

Which would make it about as un-biased as Huffpo, Salon or Politico.

No shit Sherlock. Vette was all over the links from those sites disproving his point. Which is fine, but you don't get to have it both ways.

 

[cowslinger64]

I'm happy with Michigan's 16 electoral votes.

I have them safely secured in my vintage Al Gore lockbox that I purchased on eBay.

Yep, we have tons of idiots out in the sticks in Michigan. They even voted for a republican governor whose policies poisoned the water in Flint and killed people.

That's just how fuckin ignorant you people are.

 

[james_1957]

Who's to blame for the Flint water crisis?

Yep, we have tons of idiots out in the sticks in Michigan. They even voted for a republican governor whose policies poisoned the water in Flint and killed people.

That's just how fuckin ignorant you people are.

Local offices in Flint are officially nonpartisan, but Walling was a Democrat. So too was Andy Dillon, the state treasurer who signed off on the water changes (and who was a cross-party appointee of Snyder).

Meanwhile, the Environmental Protection Agency -- during the administration of President Barack Obama -- has come in for criticism as well. A July 2015 email by a regional EPA administrator apologized for the warnings by the EPA’s own employee, Del Toral, and called them an "unvetted draft." Despite senior EPA officials’ delays in taking Del Toral’s warnings seriously, they were ultimately determined to have been accurate.

Several experts added that the problems in Flint cannot be divorced from the city’s long-term economic decline. And as long ago as 2010, the EPA expressed concern that "dramatic budget cuts" at the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality were having a "significant impact" on its water program. The governor at the time? Democrat Jennifer Granholm.

However, experts say that claims from Clinton and Sanders that focus on Snyder alone oversimplify matters -- and give a partisan spin to what is more fairly characterized as a broad failure of governance at all levels. Such one-sided accounts gloss over the responsibility borne by local Flint officials who supported the decision, by an EPA that failed to press harder for changes as the problem worsened, and by officials of both parties who contributed to the longstanding fiscal problems at both the state and city level.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/feb/15/whos-blame-flint-water-crisis/

 

[cowslinger64]

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/feb/15/whos-blame-flint-water-crisis/

What did you do, pick the first article you could find? There are ten times more articles that are truthful and more accurate, look up a time magazine article for example. Metro times has reported it much better than any.

 

[phrodeau]

Who was it that said they're everything they accuse the GOP of? They were dead on.

And you still aren't interested in doing anything about it.

Shows how much you care about USA.

 

[BotanyBoy]

What did you do, pick the first article you could find? There are ten times more articles that are truthful and more accurate, look up a time magazine article for example. Metro times has reported it much better than any.

LMFAO!!!!

 

[cowslinger64]

LMFAO!!!!

Still an idiot, I see. And you're so fucking stupid, you have to ask which of your posts are stupid. It's most, if not all of them.

You really should do a "this is why you don't do drugs, kids" commercial.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Still an idiot, I see. And you're so fucking stupid, you have to ask which of your posts are stupid. It's most, if not all of them.

You really should do a "this is why you don't do drugs, kids" commercial.

All I do is laugh and you go right to the childish name calling.

Bravo slinger....bravo you're the coolest 6th grader on the playground bro

 

[Hashtag35]

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