Patterns in Stealthing Stories

[bettiezyx]

Am looking for patterns in stories about "stealthing": men removing condoms during sex without partner's knowledge (both male and female). Have the following stories to look at; are there more?

"Impregnating a Hitchhiker" by trs36311
"Weekend Business, Baby" by tittany
"The Curious Case of the Vanishing Condom" by xcal89

 

[joelafayette]

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[AwkwardMD]

Booooo, Bettie. Booooo.

First of all, it's disingenuous to ask in a writers forum (the feedback forum is largely for authors) for fodder for your blog. You're holding up these works as dispicable examples of near-rape, which in turn condemns the author. Boo.

Second of all, your blog is written saying "THIS IS A THING AND ONLY MEN ARE PERPETRATING IT", when you phrased your initial question here in such a way that the only answers you're going to get would back up your pre-existing bias. Be smarter than that.

Third of all, do not condemn fantasy. Fantasy is not the same as reality. You are barking up the wrong tree if you want to find things that are worth your outrage.

 

[AwkwardMD]

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This is a link to a forum thread, on a different website, that deals with something similar to stealthing from a different perspective. It's a little hard to follow at the beginning out of context, so the context is that three years ago, I was trying to write a story for a writing competition and I wanted some help.

 

[joelafayette]

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[AwkwardMD]

Her, and you're welcome.

 

[bettiezyx]

Wow did some people miss the point

a) I never cited the authors so anyone reading my blog would have to go hunting to find this thread where I'm looking for stories.
b) The stories are fantasy. Do I condemn THEM? No, you need to read what I wrote again. I neither condemn the authors not the stories, only the very real practice. Here, let me repeat that:
I DON'T CONDEMN THE AUTHORS NOR THE STORIES
I DON'T CONDEMN THE AUTHORS NOR THE STORIES
I DON'T CONDEMN THE AUTHORS NOR THE STORIES
Geez.
c) Do the stories capture real thought processes? Here I think is where we disagree. I think they do, but only a very few individuals would act on them. They're fantasy after all, so then I go into what the thought processes mean altogether, acknowledging that it's MY BLOG and I can bullshit all I like, thank you very much.
d) I give a nod to both women doing it and gay male genres, but I don't have examples of those to work with.
e) Is there anything else you'd like to share Mr. MD? Yes. I am laughing at you.

 

[bettiezyx]

Will check it out, thank you!

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Will check it out, thank you!

 

[AwkwardMD]

What is the difference between a fantasy and a "real thought process"?

There isn't one. Where do you think fantasy comes from?

You are stamping your feet like a child insisting you don't judge fantasies with one breath while you judge fantasies with the next. And that's fine. If you want to wear a big "hypocrite" sign, be my guest.

No one is on the other side of "Stealthing". Disgusting human behaviour is disgusting, but there is an ocean of difference between action and thought.

 

[bettiezyx]

What?

So what you're saying is that judging Stealthing as a real thing is bad, which then means I judge authors who write fantasy stories about stealthing as bad, too.

While you're trying to lay that "hypocrite" sign on me, you need to wear a "flawed logic" sign yourself.

 

[AwkwardMD]

c) Do the stories capture real thought processes? Here I think is where we disagree. I think they do, but only a very few individuals would act on them.

I don't know how you intended this to be come off, but it reads like "SOME people who have these fantasies are monsters." When you say that, after saying "I don't judge fantasy", that makes you a hypocrite. If I misinterpreted what you meant, then please enlighten me.

 

[bettiezyx]

Ciao

Well, thanks for killing my thread. Spank you later, sweet cheeks.

 

[AwkwardMD]

I'm sorry that asking you to stand by your words was too hard. I wish that you could have gotten what you wanted without resorting to baiting others under false pretenses. I wish that the thing you'd take away from this was to be more transparent not less, but you'll probably just try to be sneakier next time.

The thing you should really be looking for is reader information, but that data is nowhere to be found. You would need to conduct an informal poll yourself, and your results would only be as good as your sample size.