Climate continues to change.

[thør]

Perceptions are everything when it comes to getting funding, etc.

 

[phrodeau]

Perceptions are everything when it comes to getting funding, etc.

For social programs, sure. For science programs, evidence is needed.

 

[thør]

For social programs, sure. For science programs, evidence is needed.

We'd certainly like to think so. But the people controlling the purse strings aren't scientists or even close.

 

[water505]

^^^Says it's a fact, when it's an assumption.

You hate facts and make shit up pretending like you know what you're talking about...you know...like your knowledge of "hiring people."

Crash and burn...again.

 

[phrodeau]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/04/great-barrier-reef-climate-change-coral-bleaching/

The largest living structure on Earth is under attack by warm water for the second time in 12 months. And the window to save it is closing rapidly.

 

[trysail]

http://dustoffthebible.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/EndIsNear3.jpg

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[KingOrfeo]

Rising glacier melt is actually decreasing the amount of water flowing through rivers.

In the summer of 2016, the global warming-induced retreat of Kaskawulsh Glacier — one of the largest glaciers in Canada — altered the flow of its meltwater so substantially that it killed off one river and shunted its waters over to another, an abrupt geological act known as river piracy.

A team of researchers were serendipitously on hand to document the upheaval, which likely marks a permanent change and could have substantial consequences for the ecology and surroundings of both waterways.

While river piracy, or stream capture, is known to have happened in the past because of swings in Earth’s climate, most of those examples were from thousands of years ago. This instance is the first attributed to human-caused climate change.

 

[trysail]

What better way to show that you care about CO2 emissions than to fly across the US, drive to a hotel,
drive from the hotel to a march, drive back to the hotel, drive to the airport, and then fly back the next day!

https://claesjohnsonmathscience.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/168_cartoon_9.jpg
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[phrodeau]

Mass transit - great idea.

 

[trysail]

Brought to you by:


The Leo DiCaprio School of Dangerous CO2-caused Anthropogenic Global Warming.




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( if all else fails, hop in your private jet and fly to protest global warming )



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[thør]

Interesting stuff.

 

[OldJourno]

Interesting stuff.

A sailor lighting a cigarette as a methane cloud breaks the ocean surface is likely the cause of those spontaneous combustion stories that are so fun to read.

 

[Shagly]

Bring on the alleged change, cycles do wonders.

 

[OldJourno]

Freezing to fight global warming

https://townhall.com/columnists/pauldriessen/2017/04/22/draft-n2316565

 

[trysail]

"It is ironic that they emphasize 'empirical science', since that’s what argues against global warming being a problem. It’s the 'theoretical science' they have to invoke to scare people."

-Roy W. Spencer, Ph.D.
(comment on climate "science" and The March For Science)​

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[trysail]

“We’re all victims of the great green swindle”
The Times (London)

“The same mistake is now being made subsidising power stations to burn American wood pellets that are doing more harm to the climate than the coal they replaced, according to a recent Chatham House report. Drax in Yorkshire, once the largest, cleanest, most efficient coal-fired power station in Europe, has been converted to burn wood pellets with an annual £500 million public subsidy but it now pumps out more CO2. Wind farms are little better because we’ve had to build diesel power plants across the country to help on days when the wind doesn’t blow at the right speed.”​

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[phrodeau]

“We’re all victims of the great green swindle”
The Times (London)

“The same mistake is now being made subsidising power stations to burn American wood pellets that are doing more harm to the climate than the coal they replaced, according to a recent Chatham House report. Drax in Yorkshire, once the largest, cleanest, most efficient coal-fired power station in Europe, has been converted to burn wood pellets with an annual £500 million public subsidy but it now pumps out more CO2. Wind farms are little better because we’ve had to build diesel power plants across the country to help on days when the wind doesn’t blow at the right speed.”​

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Again you make the erroneous assumption that burning wood is as bad as burning coal. It is not, and maybe you can figure out why.

 

[KingOrfeo]

https://townhall.com/columnists/pauldriessen/2017/04/22/draft-n2316565

April 22 is Earth Day, the March for Science and Lenin’s birthday (which many say is appropriate, since environmentalism is now green on the outside and red, anti-free enterprise on the inside).

Not much point in reading further, is there?

 

[KingOrfeo]

Again you make the erroneous assumption that burning wood is as bad as burning coal. It is not, and maybe you can figure out why.

I'll take a stab: A tree sequesters CO2 as it grows and releases it all when burned -- the net effect on the atmospheric CO2 level is zero. The CO2 would be released anyway as a dead tree decays. But burning fossil fuels releases CO2 that has been sequestered in the ground for millions of years, and when released into the atmosphere is now a new addition, which would not be made if the coal were left in the ground.

 

[thør]

I'll take a stab: A tree sequesters CO2 as it grows and releases it all when burned -- the net effect on the atmospheric CO2 level is zero. The CO2 would be released anyway as a dead tree decays. But burning fossil fuels releases CO2 that has been sequestered in the ground for millions of years, and when released into the atmosphere is now a new addition, which would not be made if the coal were left in the ground.

In many places, people burn trees faster than new ones can grow. Plus, both trees and coal are stinky.

 

[KingOrfeo]

In many places, people burn trees faster than new ones can grow.

That's a sustainability problem, not a climate change problem.

 

[thør]

That's a sustainability problem, not a climate change problem.

:cough:

 

[phrodeau]

I'll take a stab: A tree sequesters CO2 as it grows and releases it all when burned -- the net effect on the atmospheric CO2 level is zero. The CO2 would be released anyway as a dead tree decays. But burning fossil fuels releases CO2 that has been sequestered in the ground for millions of years, and when released into the atmosphere is now a new addition, which would not be made if the coal were left in the ground.

Correct.

In many places, people burn trees faster than new ones can grow. Plus, both trees and coal are stinky.

Haven't you got some ice giants to deal with?

 

[thør]

Correct.
Haven't you got some ice giants to deal with?

They were on the other side of the forest, but the forest is gone.

 

[Ishmael]

Again you make the erroneous assumption that burning wood is as bad as burning coal. It is not, and maybe you can figure out why.

Perhaps you can illuminate us mere mortals as to how the laws of thermodynamics are modified by some factor based on the fuel.

Idiot.

Ishmael