When Trump starts war with North Korea, will it nuke Seoul?

[water505]

Yes, North Korea has done something, we're just not sure what yet.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Will the DPRK respond by nuking Seoul, or perhaps a chemical attack?

More likely they would use the conventional long-range artillery they have in place in mountain tunnels, facing south. Those guns could pound Seoul to rubble in an hour.

 

[KingOrfeo]

So you think their provocations are nothing to worry about and those provocations are mere constructs of the CIA?

What provocations are you talking about? The only ones I've heard of have been naval skirmishes, missile test-launches, and announcements in public speeches, none of which could possibly be an imaginary CIA invention.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Trump is not about to start a war with North Korea, but he will gladly finish the war that North Korea starts. If they are that stupid. And for all their goofy posturing, they aren't. It would be suicidal. The Baekdu bloodline of the Kim dynasty has not made a multi-generational policy of killing everyone around them, including each other, because they are suicidal.

But they sure like to loudly invent their own facts. Trump's inclination to do the same may well strike a chord the North Korean leadership can identify with.

I'll bet they're sitting there today thinking, "We probably don't want to fuck with that."

See Nixon's Madman Theory.

 

[KingOrfeo]

The Korean War hasn't yet ended. We are still at war with North Korea and have been for over fifty years.

There is a cease fire agreement.

It is. On the other hand, no war was ever declared by any of the UN nations who participated, was it?

 

[oggbashan]

It is. On the other hand, no war was ever declared by any of the UN nations who participated, was it?

Declaring war is so 19th Century...

 

[Tigersman]

Lil' Kim is probably moving from safe house to safe house...

Not safe house but safe bunker but it won't do him any good after a nuclear war with all the radioactivity in everything plus the fallout. This doesn't include all the disease in the dead bodies rotting in the sun.

 

[ishtat]

China

This is mad. 32 posts about N Korea without mention of China. It's China's job to sort out fatboy, not the USA"s . Trump was using Syria as an example to show them how to do it. The Chinese probably aren't that bothered, whatever they say publically, because it strengthens their position with Fatboy.

Possibly China will realize one day that the smart move will be to encourage the reunification of Korea. That would break the South economically and cost US taxpayers billions in support to their ally. But the Chinese probably may not be that smart.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The Chinese in no way shape or form want Korea to be united.



They have history...

 

[Rightguide]

The Chinese in no way shape or form want Korea to be united.



They have history...

Only if it were united under the communist hammer and sickle.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

See Nixon's Madman Theory.

There may actually be something to that theory. I've always believed that successful diplomacy and foreign relations between ALL nations depends on a consistent formula of knowing what actions, statements and interventions are ALWAYS acceptable (no matter how much the other side may bitch or bluster), ALWAYS unacceptable (we WILL shoot back, if not go to war) and MOSTLY uncertain (take your chances, hot shot, but you are skating on very thin ice).

It seems to me "mostly uncertain" is where the true danger lies. You don't want to stray too far from the acceptable into the uncertain. And you always want your adversary to KNOW what the unacceptable is and the horror he will bring upon himself so that he can avoid it -- not unlike Nixon theorized.

 

[Disgustipated]

http://i.imgur.com/rsMWenn.png

 

[Colonel Hogan]

More likely they would use the conventional long-range artillery they have in place in mountain tunnels, facing south. Those guns could pound Seoul to rubble in an hour.

The Navy's Phalanx and the Army's C-RAM close-in weapons systems (CWIS) might have something to say about that. Not to mention return missile strikes that would target the artillery positions in the HOUR that they were out of their tunnels.

This is exactly what the recent U. S. - South Korean joint military exercise was simulating.

The C-RAM also differs from the Phalanx in that the CIWS rounds are generally only in danger of hitting the ocean if they miss the target. On land, they are much more likely to cause collateral damage. So instead of the full-tungsten anti-armor rounds the Navy uses, the C-RAM's rounds self-destruct before they hit the ground. All told, the Centurion can reportedly defend a 1.2km square area from airborne threats with a 60 to 70 percent shoot-down rate.

http://gizmodo.com/5907237/the-c-ram-centurion-tears-up-warheads-with-a-stream-of-hot-lead

 

[KingOrfeo]

Only if it were united under the communist hammer and sickle.

The NKs don't even call themselves Communists any more; their system is supposedly something uniquely Korean that has nothing to do with socialist internationalism.

 

[KingOrfeo]

The Navy's Phalanx and the Army's C-RAM close-in weapons systems (CWIS) might have something to say about that. Not to mention return missile strikes that would target the artillery positions in the HOUR that they were out of their tunnels.

Actually, I think those guns are fixed emplacements that can fire at Seoul from inside the tunnels.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

There's a bomb for that.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

I see, it's your comprehension that is in question, it's okay, we all grow old. I was merely implying that Trumpy would not want to bomb a man with the same political arsenal as himself, rather that he would embrace Kim as a great leader, such as himself. My post was not meant to suggest any meaning into your post, or to put words in your mouth, that's 4est plump's job.

LMFAO!!!

I see. So your response to my original comment about Trump "inventing facts" was this:

Inventing facts? And trump doesn't like that? It's what he likes best.

And now you're telling me and the folks at home that you "were merely implying that Trumpy would not want to bomb a man with the same political arsenal as himself, rather that he would embrace Kim as a great leader"?

What about that, ladies and gentlemen? Anybody else buying that load of crap?

 

[Conager]

The NKs don't even call themselves Communists any more; their system is supposedly something uniquely Korean that has nothing to do with socialist internationalism.

Since the ideas of Marx have never worked anywhere, you pinko commies are constantly engaged in futile rebranding circumlocutions. All so you can argue, "I'm not a pick-your-lable-of-last week, I'm a totes different PYL du jpur!"

 

[Hard_Rom]

The Korean War was a 'police action".

You can't shoot down artillery shells.

China will not allow a nuclear confrontation near their borders.

N. Korea is no threat to the US. US interests maybe but not the US itself. Even N. Korean satellites with nukes can be taken out. N. Korea does not have a blue-water navy.

They could pound the hell out of Seoul but the N. Korean army is not even able to beat the S. Koreans alone.

China did not intervene in the Korean War until UN forces were within miles of the Chinese border. They would probably allow purely S. Korean forces quite a bit of latitude in dealing with an attack by Kim. As long as the US restricted itself to a supporting role.

 

[Disgustipated]

Since the ideas of Marx have never worked anywhere, you pinko commies are constantly engaged in futile rebranding circumlocutions. All so you can argue, "I'm not a pick-your-lable-of-last week, I'm a totes different PYL du jpur!"

I hate being labled.