Is this a game changer for you?

[Ezrollin]

I have read some good and some no so good stories on Literotica. I have also read some that were based on an implausible or unrealistic set of circumstances. Some of these were otherwise well written and entertaining but not believable so I lost interest. Is this type of thing a game changer for you. I won't be specific because I don't want to step on anyone's toes.

 

[lovecraft68]

No real answer, it 100% depends on the person. There's implausible things that happen that I roll with, then others I'm like "what the fuck? I'm done" but give that story to another reader and it can be the opposite reaction.

In general incest and non con stretch plausibility as in in real life both are crimes that shouldn't be committed so in those categories I would give a lot more leeway. Romance? I want plausibility because for the most part they are stories of real people in real scenarios

All that is just me though

 

[Domesticity]

I'm always grossed out when characters in a story have sex with no protection or without discussing their status. It's funny because it's such a not sexy thing to write about but if it's not discussed I spend the whole story wondering when they'll find out they got an STI.

 

[My I]

Is this type of thing a game changer for you.

Nope.

I have this thing that many are lacking these days.

It's called...

Imagination.

 

[sr71plt]

I have read some good and some no so good stories on Literotica. I have also read some that were based on an implausible or unrealistic set of circumstances. Some of these were otherwise well written and entertaining but not believable so I lost interest. Is this type of thing a game changer for you. I won't be specific because I don't want to step on anyone's toes.

Unfortunately, I've found that some things a reader finds implausible or unrealistic are the result of the reader leading an insular, uninformed life, not the author.

 

[sr71plt]

I'm always grossed out when characters in a story have sex with no protection or without discussing their status. It's funny because it's such a not sexy thing to write about but if it's not discussed I spend the whole story wondering when they'll find out they got an STI.

Sorry, but I hope that clinical readers like you do pass by my stories (a good many do include protection, but not for the reader fear you invoke). I guess you had to live and be active before the early 1980s to know that unprotected sex was quite sexy at one time--more so than taking a pause and losing the "moment" or of taking time out to worry about what you'd catch from it. If you take time out to think, give a thought to how silly the sex acts is to begin with and maybe you just won't have sex (and need not expect clinical stories).

 

[TxRad]

Fantasy, meet Reality. Reality, meet fantasy.

Any other questions?

 

[Zeb_Carter]

fic·tion
ˈfikSH(ə)n/

noun: fiction

. literature in the form of prose, especially short stories and novels, that describes imaginary events and people.
synonyms: novels, stories, (creative) writing, (prose) literature; informality
"the popularity of South American fiction"
. invention or fabrication as opposed to fact.
plural noun: fictions
"he dismissed the allegation as absolute fiction"
synonyms: fabrication, invention, lies, fibs, untruth, falsehood, fantasy, nonsense
"the president dismissed the allegation as absolute fiction"
antonyms: fact
. a belief or statement that is false, but that is often held to be true because it is expedient to do so.
"the notion of that country being a democracy is a polite fiction"

 

[ElectricBlue]

I have also read some that were based on an implausible or unrealistic set of circumstances. Some of these were otherwise well written and entertaining but not believable so I lost interest. Is this type of thing a game changer for you.

Obviously it depends on genre - clearly, if someone reads Erotic Horror or Sci-Fi and Fantasy, surely they're going to expect the unbelievable as a basic premise?

The challenge for the writer is to make the unbelievable believable, or at least credible, given whatever world view assumptions are stated. I wouldn't turn away from LOTR, for example, just because the basic premise of Middle Earth is daft.

Don't they call it "suspension of disbelief"?

 

[sr71plt]

True, but I reiterate that, even on "real world" categories, complaining readers are wrong about what is plausible/believable for that story scenario far more often than they think they are.

 

[ElectricBlue]

True, but I reiterate that, even on "real world" categories, complaining readers are wrong about what is plausible/believable for that story scenario far more often than they think they are.

I'd agree with you there - you rightly pointed out earlier, just coz a reader hasn't done it, doesn't mean it hasn't been done.

 

[SamScribble]

Unfortunately, I've found that some things a reader finds implausible or unrealistic are the result of the reader leading an insular, uninformed life, not the author.

Pretty much everything that happens in my stories happened (to a greater or lesser extent) to me or to people I know or knew. It's not my fault that some of the readers ran with a different crowd.

 

[sr71plt]

Pretty much everything that happens in my stories happened (to a greater or lesser extent) to me or to people I know or knew. It's not my fault that some of the readers ran with a different crowd.

I've observed before and so have others here that sometimes a reader comments on something implausible in a story when that was the only element of the story that was based in actual experience or fact.

 

[Nezhul]

I think it's a matter of how you write it. You can describe real event so that it sounds implausible. And then you can make a story on how you've been kidnapped by aliens and the readers will not get a bad vibe out of it.

 

[Handley_Page]

I'm always grossed out when characters in a story have sex with no protection or without discussing their status. It's funny because it's such a not sexy thing to write about but if it's not discussed I spend the whole story wondering when they'll find out they got an STI.

That's why it's described as "fiction". ie., it's not supposed to be a Report on [real] Events.
Associated (usually) with this word is "Imagination".
In this latter case, it can reasonably be assured that 'nasty things' don't happen; certainly not to the Good Guys.

Hope this helps.

 

[oggbashan]

I don't appreciate comments that say parts of my story are unrealistic and couldn't happen. I write fiction and fantasy. When the story is set in an apparently real scenario, what I write is usually plausible and often is based on real experience.

Shaved pussies in the 1960s? Yes. I met them in Chelsea, London in the 1960s. They had become more popular with very short miniskirts. 1950s? Yes, they existed but usually to deal with pubic lice. Ugh!

I appreciate people who point out anachronisms like a DVD in a 1960s story.

But when I write about Valkyries and Valhalla I don't like a comment that told me my version of Bifrost Bridge was inaccurate because it didn't match a recent Hollywood movie. Or my story Rapunzel being wrong because it doesn't match the movie Tangled - even though my story was written BEFORE the movie.

Fiction can be realistic but it is fiction.

Movie and TV producers often make docudrama based on real events but they are still fiction. It has been going on for decades. War movies showed Americans winning WW2 even before America had joined. Yes, there were volunteer Americans in the RAF, but a US Navy ship did not capture a German U boat and salvage its Enigma machine BEFORE Pearl Harbor. The Royal Navy did. I don't object to the movie as FICTION but when it is marketed as fact - that is wrong.

Most of my stories start with a disclaimer stating that the story is fiction. Some Lit stories start with "This is a true story" when it usually isn't.

Even with my disclaimer I get comments saying "that couldn't happen" on a SciFi/Fantasy story. WTF? I have space ships travelling faster than light yet the comment is about the planet's immigration control being unrealistic!

If you don't like fiction and think everything should be real - don't read fiction!

 

[Comentarista82]

I have read some good and some no so good stories on Literotica. I have also read some that were based on an implausible or unrealistic set of circumstances. Some of these were otherwise well written and entertaining but not believable so I lost interest. Is this type of thing a game changer for you. I won't be specific because I don't want to step on anyone's toes.

It depends on how it's written and what the author states as a premise. I was reading a sci-fi story and the guy's obviously 14+ inches and has 4 balls, spurting pints...you get the idea. The premise is partly it can cure everything--even regrow 1/2 a missing brain! Now the women that swallow this are no longer catty or jealous and become bisexual; however, they eventually become empathic telepathic if they bond with the guy's mistress.

The deal breaker in the story occurs when obvious jealousy rears its head by how the author writes it and even the characters admit to it. The other part is when you state the people are telepathic and you're within sci-fi, but it's established in the genre that telepaths "open" and close their minds when they choose and it's never "always open" or the telepath goes mad in a short time from all the voices. So it's a deal-breaker when the story violates the own author's premise and "rules" or otherwise where the author doesn't state it, the understood rules for that genre.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I have read some good and some no so good stories on Literotica. I have also read some that were based on an implausible or unrealistic set of circumstances. Some of these were otherwise well written and entertaining but not believable so I lost interest. Is this type of thing a game changer for you. I won't be specific because I don't want to step on anyone's toes.

So, I guess you don't read science fiction?

 

[jomar]

Readers and viewers are willing to accept zany propositions but will give up if there is no internal consistency within the world created.

 

[RetroFan]

You can lose your audience pretty quickly if you write something that defies logic and is totally unrealistic. I have to be especially careful as I specialize in writing erotic fiction set in the past, and can destroy my story if I make a glaring anachronism.

For example, it is perfectly good to write a story set on the Titanic. But don't write a Titanic story that involves a group of passengers swinging, engaging in group sex and hardcore BDSM, the females in the group having completely shaved away all their pubic hair. People simply did not behave like that in 1912, so no matter how well the erotic scenes are written, this story will not ring true with readers as it is too unrealistic.

 

[HandsInTheDark]

I have read some good and some no so good stories on Literotica. I have also read some that were based on an implausible or unrealistic set of circumstances. Some of these were otherwise well written and entertaining but not believable so I lost interest. Is this type of thing a game changer for you. I won't be specific because I don't want to step on anyone's toes.

I think you're using "game-changer" wrong. "Deal-breaker"?

I suspend disbelief in some areas but not others.

1. No protection and no consequences. I'm fine with that in stories; she's using birth control and it's a universe without AIDS.

2. Pretty girls who act well adjusted and normal, but turn out to the have uncontrollable hots for arbitrarily much older men, or losers, or basically anyone with a cock. Non-starter. Basically any time a desirable and sane female starts throwing herself at an undesirable male uninvited, something's badly wrong. In the real world that behaviour sets off huge warning bells. I'll expect the Crazy to emerge, and probably start skimming to find it. If there isn't any I'll feel like I wasted my time.

3. Violations of physics in fantasy or sci-fi. Fine to a point. They know stuff we don't. But if you're writing sci-fi, at least add a nod to the rule you're breaking. Teleportation between stars? Whoever built that better be a god, given the delta in velocities.

4. Authors being wrong about verifiable facts in current, real world settings. Complete non-starter. If you say something completely false about some fields I happen to know something about, that's the last paragraph I'm reading. Wikipedia makes fact-checking trivial. Write what you know or be prepared to check your basic premise against internet resources.

 

[HandsInTheDark]

That's why it's described as "fiction". ie., it's not supposed to be a Report on [real] Events.
Associated (usually) with this word is "Imagination".
In this latter case, it can reasonably be assured that 'nasty things' don't happen; certainly not to the Good Guys.

Hope this helps.

Don't know about most people, but the closer the story line gets to reality, the hotter the sex gets.

"Jenny was 19, a cheerleader with a C cup and blue eyes, and was totally hot for Frank, 32, a portly computer nerd living in his mother's basement. 'Oh Frank' she said. 'I love the way you grip that mouse!'"

I don't have that much imagination. (Or patience with horrific writing.) Next!

But show me a male working his way into a beautiful woman's life, even as the woman tries to keep him away, but somehow...

Yeah, now I'm turning pages.

I let bad things happen to my characters. I don't dwell on it; I can't write stories full of disabilities and cancer victims. But it's not all candy and applesauce in my stuff. I think the response to adversity can be interesting - and hot.

 

[HandsInTheDark]

It depends on how it's written and what the author states as a premise. I was reading a sci-fi story and the guy's obviously 14+ inches and has 4 balls, spurting pints...you get the idea. The premise is partly it can cure everything--even regrow 1/2 a missing brain! Now the women that swallow this are no longer catty or jealous and become bisexual; however, they eventually become empathic telepathic if they bond with the guy's mistress.

The deal breaker in the story occurs...

About 20 words in?

And I'm saying this as a guy who's written a story in which a bunch of guys come across technology something like that; they are able to modify themselves (and women) into very capable fuck machines. And then I put pages into developing their justification for kidnapping women to live in their special little world - and the women's reactions to it. I think I made it work - it rated well, anyway - but even I'm cringing at what you described.

Speaking of what ruins stories for people.. that same story got a lot of "this is well written, but it's profoundly morally bankrupt." comments.

Yes, it was. I make the guys' point of view sound plausible, but it's still kidnapping and worse and nothing can make it moral. I wasn't trying to - it was hard enough making it sound plausible and still making the guys seem appealing. The story starts straight off with an obvious abduction and some nonconsentual sex, and you're annoyed that it's "morally bankrupt in tone"? The time to bail out in that case with the middle of the first page.... but somehow they got to page 18.

But it's Readers. They are what they are, and there's no accounting for any of it.

 

[jsmiam]

It's complicated. Some people here berating readers have admitted in the past to doing extensive locale, wardrobe, and historical context research, so even they know it makes a difference. Trying to be reasonably realistic is fine. Being annoyed by transgressions is fine. It's a free world.

My personal pet peeve was Superman 3, when he froze the entire surface of a lake, and carried the ice over a fire, to save Jimmy Olsen. I can believe in Superman. I can believe he can freeze a lake, and even fly holding the ice. But what bothered me, was that he held tons of ice by one flimsy edge, not from under the center of gravity. It was superman, not superice. So it annoyed me...

I think we all do things like that, in different areas of focus.

 

[oggbashan]

It's complicated. Some people here berating readers have admitted in the past to doing extensive locale, wardrobe, and historical context research, so even they know it makes a difference. Trying to be reasonably realistic is fine. Being annoyed by transgressions is fine. It's a free world.

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I think stories should be internally consistent. If you have created a fantasy world you shouldn't break the rules of that world.

But being berated for mistakes that aren't mistakes? That can be annoying because such comments can influence later comments.