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Rightguide said:
Because for the most part they aren't quiet hard working patriots like those who rose up and called themselves the Tea Party.
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For the most part American progressives are hardworking patriots; and if they're going to have a political movement, there's no point in being quiet.
 
LincolnDuncan said:
How would you know that? Do you have any factual data to support your allegation?
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Orderly, violence-free rallies. They even picked up their trash when they left.

Do you have any factual data to support that they were anything but as described?
 
Conager said:
Orderly, violence-free rallies. They even picked up their trash when they left.
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That makes them orderly people. It does not make them patriotic or hardworking, and it certainly does not make them quiet.
 
Conager said:
Orderly, violence-free rallies. They even picked up their trash when they left.

Do you have any factual data to support that they were anything but as described?
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No I don't but since I didn't make the statement it isn't my responsibility to provide proof.

But you know that, don't you?
 
KingOrfeo said:
All protest in the Civil Rights movement and most in the anti-Vietnam-War movement was law-abiding.
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For a "lawyer", you have really odd ideas about the law. By definition, though peaceful and non-violent for the most part the civil rights movement was deliberately and provocatively NOT "law-abiding." The entire concept of civil disobedience is to not comply with unjust laws.

My latest theory for you is that you are a hospital orderly, janitor or cafeteria worker getting illegal kickbacks for steering accident victims to an actual lawyer.
 
KingOrfeo said:
All protest in the Civil Rights movement and most in the anti-Vietnam-War movement was law-abiding.
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Bullshit, there were all kinds of violent protests during the 60s and 70s. Tell that to the Democratic Party convention in 1968. Google it.
 
LincolnDuncan said:
8 years ago the Tea Party formed in opposition to Obama. They were very successful in acquiring political power and electing candidates to congress. They are the deplorable base of the Trump supporters. Why should the opposition to Trump be any different?
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Did they hold violent protests? No, they assembled peacefully sang, prayed made a few speeches and cleaned up after themselves when they left.

Did they use the IRS/EPA/FEC on their political enemies? No, those were all used against them by the Deep (Democrat) State and its agencies.

Did they bug Merkel, Israel and possibly Republican Senators? No, that was the Obama Administration.

Did they play by all the rules and do the American thing of winning power by convincing people that government needed to be reformed and that we were Taxed Enough Already? And having won these elections and being sent to Washington to enact the will of their voters, was it not right and proper behavior to do just that? Yes it was.

Now, the same thing has happened for President Trump (as per the guidelines established over in Renard's thread and as per Fro-DOH!'s contention that all Lit posters are part of the Press, I will say Trump from here on out having shown the proper respect) and how has the loyal opposition behaved? Violent protests, name calling (Hitler/NAZI) never ending serious charges, the press and the Deep state are out to destroy him, everything that we would consider to be Banana Republic behavior.

Now, you keep this up, and you keep calling everyone who doesn't agree with you or see the clear and present danger that you think Trump presents all the disparaging things that you can dream up, because that worked so well for you in the last election, but at this point, between you and me, if Trump says he was bugged and the Democrats, the Deep State, the Press and you say it didn't happen...,

:eek:

I'm giving Trump the benefit of the doubt because he was duly elected by the people following all the rules of the Electoral College and breaking all of the Democrat (and Press)-established rules of how a Republican is supposed to behave in the face the outrageous slings and arrows of those who feel that they are the elite and the born to rule class.
 
Loretta Lynch was in the news yesterday calling for street violence and blood.

God doesn't love America enough for that to happen.
 
4est_4est_Gump said:
Did they hold violent protests? No, they assembled peacefully sang, prayed made a few speeches and cleaned up after themselves when they left.

Did they use the IRS/EPA/FEC on their political enemies? No, those were all used against them by the Deep (Democrat) State and its agencies.

Did they bug Merkel, Israel and possibly Republican Senators? No, that was the Obama Administration.

Did they play by all the rules and do the American thing of winning power by convincing people that government needed to be reformed and that we were Taxed Enough Already? And having won these elections and being sent to Washington to enact the will of their voters, was it not right and proper behavior to do just that? Yes it was.

Now, the same thing has happened for President Trump (as per the guidelines established over in Renard's thread and as per Fro-DOH!'s contention that all Lit posters are part of the Press, I will say Trump from here on out having shown the proper respect) and how has the loyal opposition behaved? Violent protests, name calling (Hitler/NAZI) never ending serious charges, the press and the Deep state are out to destroy him, everything that we would consider to be Banana Republic behavior.

Now, you keep this up, and you keep calling everyone who doesn't agree with you or see the clear and present danger that you think Trump presents all the disparaging things that you can dream up, because that worked so well for you in the last election, but at this point, between you and me, if Trump says he was bugged and the Democrats, the Deep State, the Press and you say it didn't happen...,

:eek:

I'm giving Trump the benefit of the doubt because he was duly elected by the people following all the rules of the Electoral College and breaking all of the Democrat (and Press)-established rules of how a Republican is supposed to behave in the face the outrageous slings and arrows of those who feel that they are the elite and the born to rule class.
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The elites hate Americans like me who elected Trump. And I want Trump to hurt McCain and Graham and Obana and Schumer and Pelosi et al. The bull shit of the 60s stopped when Nixon shot some students at Kent State.
 
water505 said:
They aren't just taking the bait. They're swallowing the hook.

He's playing them like a drum.
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I think it might be working. Clinton news network is opening this morning with it.

No sign of Russians yet.

Maybe they'll infuse them in later with: Russians spied on Obama and informed Radio Host who informed Trump.

Hmmmm.. plot thickens!
 
As you wallow through the responses to Trump's assertion regarding being "bugged" you begin to notice a pattern emerge, a very narrow pattern of semantic definitions to the issue couched in the broadest of application.

Obama says, "Nope, I didn't order it."

Comey says, "Nope, the president (Obama) didn't order it."

Fine, but someone damn sure ordered something because the press has assured us that the FBI has transcripts of relevant phone calls.

So, just who did order those wire taps? And 'No', I'm not interested in the "the FISA court authorized it" crap. Someone brought an affidavit before that court to receive the authorization, who was that someone? Did the sitting AG know what was happening? What did Lynch know and when did she know it? And are we to be led to believe that the sitting president was kept in the dark regarding the wire tapping of the phones of the leading opposition candidate and his advisors? And just who is leaking this information to the press?

The narrowness of the semantic defense the left is trying to mount only leads to more questions and is more or less confirmation that Trump and Assc. were indeed 'bugged.'

Perhaps an investigation is warranted, a criminal investigation into the behavior of the 'criminal investigators' themselves.

Ishmael
 
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