Denying some of the world’s most revered news organizations access

[ChloeTzang]

Ahem. How many deliberate attacks and humiliations did the press allow itself to make against Trump?

I'm not saying he's all sweet and stuff. But come on. They had it coming.

Nezhul, what's a nice guy like you doing here, besides keeping me company of course? Not that I come to this side of town very often. In fact, not at all, but I thought I'd peek over the fence and see what it was like

Revered? CNN? Not in America. It has one of the smallest audiences of major Cable News. They're just a Democrat propaganda organ undermining a Presidential transition for the first time in history. Trump has a duty to shut them out as he should any anti-American propaganda arm undermining the government in war time.

My kind of dude. Let me buy you a coffee. Only we're not going to Starsucks....

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In fact, while i'm here, why don't I get you all a coffee, even you misguided non-Trump supporting people. Good coffee often improves the level of the discourse and if all else fails, at least we're drinking excellent stuff while we disagree ...

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[phrodeau]

So if we were at war, what was Obama doing besides losing it? If we were at war, how come our military voted for Trump by a greater than 2 to 1 margin according to the exit polls I saw?

Besides, CNN isn't criticizing Trump, they're just acting as a mouthpiece for the demonrats. And losing marketshare. Nobody believes their BS anymore except the braindead. They're toast. It's only time before they fade out. The sooner the better.

Obama losing a war? Fake news.

Poll of military voting choices? Fake news.

CNN losing market share? Fake news.

 

[handysr]

Holy crap some of you people are over-the-top.

Fake News = Reporting an untruth
Fake News = Reporting half the truth

Fake News does NOT = something that makes your position look bad.

Yes, many times obama excluded reporters / news organizations that reported him in a negative light. Yes, now Trump has done it as well. It was apparently fine for obama to do it, but it's almost WW3 when Trump doesn't want CNN to post another fake news story about him.

The biggest names in the news industry are proven liberal mouthpieces that hate republicans, especially Trump. Libs can't stand news websites like Breitbart because the stories aren't condemning Trump, so they call it fake news. I'll give you that there is a conservative bias on some of the right-winger news sites, but they are less vitrolic than the left-winger news sites, but they are also critical of when they catch the Politician DeJeur in a scandal/lie/fuckup.

Read cnn, nbc, abc, bbc, whatever, about Trump blocking a few prominent liberal news sites, then check to see if any of them listed when previous presidents did it. No? Really? That means they are reporting half of the story with a liberal mindset in order to make Trump look bad. Fake news, buddy.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Holy crap some of you people are over-the-top.

Fake News = Reporting an untruth
Fake News = Reporting half the truth

Fake News does NOT = something that makes your position look bad.

Yes, many times obama excluded reporters / news organizations that reported him in a negative light. Yes, now Trump has done it as well. It was apparently fine for obama to do it, but it's almost WW3 when Trump doesn't want CNN to post another fake news story about him.

The biggest names in the news industry are proven liberal mouthpieces that hate republicans, especially Trump. Libs can't stand news websites like Breitbart because the stories aren't condemning Trump, so they call it fake news. I'll give you that there is a conservative bias on some of the right-winger news sites, but they are less vitrolic than the left-winger news sites, but they are also critical of when they catch the Politician DeJeur in a scandal/lie/fuckup.

Read cnn, nbc, abc, bbc, whatever, about Trump blocking a few prominent liberal news sites, then check to see if any of them listed when previous presidents did it. No? Really? That means they are reporting half of the story with a liberal mindset in order to make Trump look bad. Fake news, buddy.

Another voice of sanity - isn't it good to know we're the majority and the snowflakes can be safely tucked away with their playdoh and puppies while the grownups run the country. It's entertaining listening to all the meltdowns though. I'm enjoying making my coffee with snowflake tears these days. It tastes so much better every time President Trump tweets.

And as for the demos and the riots and the celebs - love them. Just keep 'em coming. Every time a Trump-hater opens their mouth or throws a public hissy fit, it's just more voters convinced that Trump was the right choice. Can't wait for those next elections, we'll see how many Demonrats gets wiped off the electoral map.

 

[bluekitty69]

Revered? CNN? Not in America. It has one of the smallest audiences of major Cable News. They're just a Democrat propaganda organ undermining a Presidential transition for the first time in history. Trump has a duty to shut them out as he should any anti-American propaganda arm undermining the government in war time.

Time of war? What war? The only enemy Trump has called out is the American free press, and he couldn't care less about undermining the government, its his alt right agenda that he is pushing not the upholding of the construction and the bill of rights!

 

[ChloeTzang]

Time of war? What war? The only enemy Trump has called out is the American free press, and he could care less about undermining the government, its his leftist agenda that is his main agenda, not the upholding of the construction and the bill of rights!

See, we're on different planets and there's nothing in common. Nothing at all. And I don't even care. I'm not interested in compromise, I'm not interested in discussions, I'm not interested in concessions or a middle ground or in fact anything at all. We've had years of the left trampling on everything we believe in and now, to quote Moochelle from a few years ago, "it's payback time." Oh yeah, baby, it is. Just be glad Trump is a nice guy who believes in democracy and the Constitution.

Best thing we could do would be ship all the liberals to California and New York and cut them loose. Better yet. Canada and Mexico. You go your way, we'll go ours and sayonara baby, good luck. Ain't happening, but that's coz we're a Republic with laws and a constitution. If the left wants to get rid of those, well, it's a different game then, isn't it... so keep pushing, lefties. Keep pushing ....

 

[Maidboy]

Shows how things have morphed doesnt it? I'd believe RT over CNN any day. Pravda? Oh of course, that's more or less what most of our media has become. The voice of the left. Its not news, its propaganda. And most of us know that. Witness polls on believability of the media. Anyhow, neither of us will convince the other. Live with it coz this is our turn. Democracy is a wonderful thing. And I hope democrats believe that coz the alternative is not good.

Yes, Pravda has morphed into RT, the mouthpiece of a Communist Russian dictator. And you believe them over the American free press. And somehow Fox, Breitbart, the Wall Street Journal etc, aren't part of our media? But I guess since even Fox and the WSJ are calling out Trump on his bullshit, they're now voices of the left? You're right that neither of us can convince the other, since you seem to have no conception of objective reality, and your critical thinking skills are sorely lacking, witness your ridiculous notion that facts are a matter of public opinion.

I can well imagine you and those who think like you living in the 17th century, still believing that the Sun revolved around the Earth because most people thought so, and because the Church said it did, not like those pointy headed intellectuals with their so-called "science" and their nefarious liberal agenda. As for "living with it because it's your turn?" Not a chance! Hillary won the popular vote by almost three million, and there are more of us than there are of you. The Resistance is growing stronger by the day, so deal with it!

 

[someoneyouknow]

Holy crap some of you people are over-the-top.

Fake News = Reporting an untruth
Fake News = Reporting half the truth

Fake News does NOT = something that makes your position look bad.

Ahh, but there's the rub. That is not how Trump and his cabal are using the term. CNN reports exactly what Trump says, or what others have said, and he calls it fake.

Trump called it fake news when CNN reported he and his campaign were under investigation for contacts with Russia during the campaign.

He called it fake news when Flynn was under investigation for his phone calls with Russia during the campaign.

Every single time the truth has been reported he has called it fake news. Every time, without exception. Why? Because it made him look bad. Pick any topic. His statements he would jail Hillary, that he wouldn't go golfing because he would be working, that he would repeal Obamneycare on day one, that he would drain the swamp, that the Mosul offensive was a failure, the list goes on.

Yes, many times obama excluded reporters / news organizations that reported him in a negative light. Yes, now Trump has done it as well. It was apparently fine for obama to do it, but it's almost WW3 when Trump doesn't want CNN to post another fake news story about him.

False. Obama did not exclude any news organization that put him a bad light. However, he did try.

He tried to exclude the Fox tabloid from interviewing Kenneth Feinberg, the guy in charge of distributing TARP funds, but after the Washington bureau chiefs of the other news organizations protested, he relented.

Also, there were complaints photographers, not journalists, were being excluded from covering some White House events.

At no time did Obama prevent any news organization from covering him. Unlike Trump who did it during the campaign because his fragile ego couldn't take being shown in a bad light. Just like now.

The biggest names in the news industry are proven liberal mouthpieces that hate republicans, especially Trump.

And there we have it. Because they report the truth they're suddenly "liberal". The most respected names in the world for independent reporting hate only Republicans. Nope, no bias in that statement.

Libs can't stand news websites like Breitbart because the stories aren't condemning Trump, so they call it fake news.

Breitbart is not a news site. It's a worse tabloid than Fox. Breitbart has been found on untold number of occasions of falsifying other people's reporting or literally making up stories. Here are just a few:

http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/nra-lies-their-ad-thanks-breitbart-false-re

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/12/22/jewish_family_flees_county_following_fox_news_breitbart_stories.html

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2017/01/09/breitbart-has-literally-unbelievable-response-its-false-german-church-story/214961

http://www.mediaite.com/online/breitbart-issues-correction-after-publishing-false-story-about-conservative-rival/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/07/german-police-quash-breitbart-story-of-mob-setting-fire-to-dortmund-church

So no, Breitbart is not in any way a "news" site. People don't like Breitbart because they don't condemn Trump (which is a huge bias in and of itself) but because it is literally fake. That is why several people resigned over the Michelle Fields incident:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/breitbart-s-michelle-fields-ben-shapiro-resign-over-trump-incident-n537711

Breitbart was sued for defamation because they highly edited a video of an Obama official to make her statement appear to be the opposite of what they were:

https://shadowproof.com/2011/02/14/the-shirley-sherrod-complaint-against-andrew-breitbart/

I'll give you that there is a conservative bias on some of the right-winger news sites, but they are less vitrolic than the left-winger news sites, but they are also critical of when they catch the Politician DeJeur in a scandal/lie/fuckup.

Oh please. The vitriol from the right-wingers borders on unreserved apoplexy. The moment anything happened in the Obama administration or a Democrat stepped the wrong way there were days and days of non-stop "opinion" pieces being thrown out.

With Trump, not a peep. Fox has yet to have any of the Russia investigations at the top of its web site. All those stories are buried further down in small typeface. Same with all his lies about this or that. Not a single peep how he's been golfing the past three weekends but when Obama went golfing, holy shit, the sky was falling.

Let's not forget, when Obama killed Bin Laden everyone EXCEPT Fox proudly noted the killing of the man who planned the worst terrorist attack on the U.S. I checked and Fox gave, maybe, an hour total covering the event, and that was done grudgingly. You could see it in the faces of the Fox talking heads and in their voices they didn't want to give him any credit for this but had to do it.

Watch how Geraldo Rivera covered it. He had more enthusiasm than the heads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_LreuQgpC4

These are Bill O'Reilly's comments. He's about the only one who gave any credit to Obama though he demeans then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's comments. He does not say congratulations to Obama:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC3-25SaZFU

To his credit, he did defend Obama from Mitt Romney:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EyPuE-iHXg

Read cnn, nbc, abc, bbc, whatever, about Trump blocking a few prominent liberal news sites, then check to see if any of them listed when previous presidents did it. No? Really? That means they are reporting half of the story with a liberal mindset in order to make Trump look bad. Fake news, buddy.

Yes, those people did complain. See above when 38 of the bureau chiefs protested when Obama tried to exclude the Fox tabloid from not interviewing one person.

These news organizations don't need to make anything up to make Trump look bad. He gives them all the ammunition they want day in and day with his denials of the truth and almost deluded rants.

 

[handysr]

Yes, Pravda has morphed into RT, the mouthpiece of a Communist Russian dictator. And you believe them over the American free press. And somehow Fox, Breitbart, the Wall Street Journal etc, aren't part of our media? But I guess since even Fox and the WSJ are calling out Trump on his bullshit, they're now voices of the left? You're right that neither of us can convince the other, since you seem to have no conception of objective reality, and your critical thinking skills are sorely lacking, witness your ridiculous notion that facts are a matter of public opinion.

I can well imagine you and those who think like you living in the 17th century, still believing that the Sun revolved around the Earth because most people thought so, and because the Church said it did, not like those pointy headed intellectuals with their so-called "science" and their nefarious liberal agenda. As for "living with it because it's your turn?" Not a chance! Hillary won the popular vote by almost three million, and there are more of us than there are of you. The Resistance is growing stronger by the day, so deal with it!

I'd believe the BBC over CNN, and RT over BBC. CNN has been proven to be the mouthpiece of the liberal democratic party, so of course they're going to hate on anyone who isn't as liberal as them. It's who they are. They can't not put a liberal spin on everything. RT and BBC usually don't give a rat's ass about how politically correct they look the the USA, but the BBC is trending that way lately. Fox? Meh, they're kind of hit-and-miss, but I'd still take them over CNN. I don't care who does it, but the more some news org tells the whole truth with as little bias as possible, the more chance I'll have of believing them.

Reporting on things like what's all over the news these days is kind of difficult to do without a bias, but still be interesting enough to keep the user's attention.

And yes, Trump is your president, that thing that lost to him can just go disappear.

 

[handysr]

Some of the Russian flags used at Trump's rally, were saved from recapture by Trump operatives.

Somewhere, someone is waving one of Trump's Russian flags with much sarcasm,when they see Trump speak on television.

Somewhere in Russia, there is a Russian citizen watching Americans waving the Russian flag, while watching Putin sponsored programming.

(Unlike Americans,Russian citizens do not get a choice. Everything said in public, is what Putin wants to hear.)

Stop with the Fake News bullshit please. Even the ultra-liberal Snopes was wise to the fact that the flags were handed out by anti-Trump idiots to stir up controversy. It worked, all those FakeNews sites said nothing about the real reason the flags were there - they only wanted to make Trump look bad.

 

[Maidboy]

Stop with the Fake News bullshit please. Even the ultra-liberal Snopes was wise to the fact that the flags were handed out by anti-Trump idiots to stir up controversy. It worked, all those FakeNews sites said nothing about the real reason the flags were there - they only wanted to make Trump look bad.

Ha-ha! It was a clever prank to make the Trumpkins look ridiculous, and they fell for it hook, line and sinker! It took them a while, but the CPAC organizers wised up and confiscated the flags, but not before being shown what ignorant fools they are!

 

[Maidboy]

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[Maidboy]

CNN has been proven to be the mouthpiece of the liberal democratic party

Hate to break the "fake news" to you, but blanket assertions do not constitute evidence, let alone proof.

 

[ChloeTzang]

YAs for "living with it because it's your turn?" Not a chance! Hillary won the popular vote by almost three million, and there are more of us than there are of you. The Resistance is growing stronger by the day, so deal with it!

Not the way our electoral system works and it's not changing. As for the "Resistance", spare me. Just a bunch of snowflakes throwing tantrums. Don't care. Trash Socal, Seattle, New York, Chicago, Baltimore, Atlanta and wherever. Don't care. They can burn them down if they like. No loss.

Face it, we're a society that's been split down the middle for decades and that split's getting more and more cast in stone. You don't want to compromise with people like me and I have no interest in compromising with you. As far as I'm concerned, we'd better better of splitting into two. Or maybe four. When you add in La Raza and BLM, maybe that's a four way split.

And it's the left that's pushing this all the way and has been for decades. Anyhow, I gotta run, it's been fun chatting and thx for having me. Enjoy the coffee, I gotta stop this social stuff and get my little butt back to writing erotic stories.... so drop by and read mine ... I generally keep the politics out of them so you might even enjoy .

 

[SweetCupcake]

gotsnowgotslush, Maidboy and your ilk = I like

You others = 2 thumbs down.

 

[BotanyBoy]

So now you're saying that the (R)s are socialists? Will wonders never cease?!

Now? They have been socialist for a long time and I've said as much since I understood that the war on drugs, is in fact, a textbook example of socialism in action.

If the press isn't allowed at press conferences, reporting is banned.

The press was allowed, just not the disruptive and belligerent factions of it.

There is no such thing as "behaving".

And that stupid statement is why the fuck, those disruptive and belligerent factions have been told to eat a dick.

You don't go into a press conference and chastise the fucking POTUS, that's how you get your seat at the table pulled.

And yes, it is the job of the press to lecture the president or its speaker on what is proper.

In their releases, not in the conference like a bunch childish shit heads who never learned basic manners.

It's called a press conference.

Their job is to record whatever is being said.

EXACTLY!!!

Not be disruptive, belligerent assholes.

If the people speaking are too childish and amateurish to provide useful material it is the job of the press to request something more.

Through the proper channels, not by repeatedly interrupting and attempting to chastise POTUS on the spot. This isn't a social justice rally against free speech at Berkeley, it's a presidential press conference and fuckers that can't behave like adults don't get invited to things like that. 1A doesn't exist to force POTUS into being abused by CNN personnel that can't adult.

Yes, because watching the childish flailings of this disastrous administration, it's the press who are the problem.

It's not 'the press' it's a few asshole elements of it that can't seem to not be disruptive, hysterical, assholes during the press conferences. So yes they are the problem, but only a couple of them.

Maybe if the gay white supremacist advisor didn't have such a hard-on for lying none of this would be an issue.

Gay white supremacist advisor??

 

[handysr]

CNN has been proven to be the mouthpiece of the liberal democratic party,

Hate to break the "fake news" to you, but blanket assertions do not constitute evidence, let alone proof.

Would a story from cnn about cnn help?

Even though it's an opinion piece, try one from the uber liberal Huffington Post

thanks wikileaks

Another weasel found.

There's a reason that it's called the Clinton News Network

 

[Rightguide]

CNN isn't undermining the government. CNN is rightly criticizing Donald Trump, a man who should never have been put into the White House during war time.

CNN is lying to the American people on a regular basis. The American people thought better about who belonged in the White House. You should have put forth somebody who wasn't a physically ill Obama clone. He's the reason Trump is in the White House.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Now that torture and black sites are cool again, Chloe's very excited about all the job opportunities opening up in the Trump Administration.

Second choice: Deportation agent, specializing in the sneaky ones.

She comes highly recommended, with Kim Jong Nam on her resume. Granted, that was a little sloppy, but just give her a liberal, and she'll get the job done

Not the way our electoral system works and it's not changing. As for the "Resistance", spare me. Just a bunch of snowflakes throwing tantrums. Don't care. Trash Socal, Seattle, New York, Chicago, Baltimore, Atlanta and wherever. Don't care. They can burn them down if they like. No loss.

Face it, we're a society that's been split down the middle for decades and that split's getting more and more cast in stone. You don't want to compromise with people like me and I have no interest in compromising with you. As far as I'm concerned, we'd better better of splitting into two. Or maybe four. When you add in La Raza and BLM, maybe that's a four way split.

And it's the left that's pushing this all the way and has been for decades. Anyhow, I gotta run, it's been fun chatting and thx for having me. Enjoy the coffee, I gotta stop this social stuff and get my little butt back to writing erotic stories.... so drop by and read mine ... I generally keep the politics out of them so you might even enjoy .

 

[bsanchez2100]

Something else to consider. The U.S. is now in the same category as North Korea, China, Vietnam, Namibia and other countries who are criticized for banning independent reporting.

Way to go Trump. Keep lowering the bar.

I thought Namibia was doing pretty well...

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...index-press-freedom-behind-namibia-and-belize

 

[Nezhul]

Nezhul, what's a nice guy like you doing here, besides keeping me company of course? Not that I come to this side of town very often. In fact, not at all, but I thought I'd peek over the fence and see what it was like

I just visit this board about once a week to see what's up.

The point people are missing here is not that PRESS was banned. If they were acting professionally, if they reported news instead of making far-stretched assumptions and future-telling - they'd be OK.

What was banned was dick behavior. And rightfully so.

I'm quite sure Trump doesn't give a damn about press not sharing his views. But their job is to report news. Instead they are opinionated and report opinions instead of news.

They are not press as such. They are not news anymore, is what you fail to understand. They could be called philosophical outlet, or maybe political analysts. But they are not the press anymore.

More over, they are not doing their analysis professionally. They are not after a good argument or establishing / uncovering the truth. They are after the show. The views. They want scandals, not the news, and they will do everything in their power to find a scandalous edge to everything, just because it gives them more views = more money.
They will also do anything to make you feel anger, outrage, hurt, betrayed. Because those feeling get people going the fastest, they are easier to instill and make you rage around, consuming every next "news" article on topic to fuel your sense of broken justice. Those emotions don't let you stop and think, evaluate thr problem from different perspectives - they make you act, and they make you engaged.

Just try to watch news with a cool head and pay attention to how many times the reports are meant to get you angry or feel wronged. How many words are used like "outrtageous", "Horrible" and others that bear the negative emotion. How many times the news will bash, judge, degrade someone for you to despise.
And then compare this to how much positive information they gave you. If you keep a cool head, you'll see a pattern. They manipulate you and you just bite the hook.

They are like stand-up comedians. They take an important topic and they give it a twist to make people engaged. But that's not the news reporting, this is show making.

Those conferences are made for those who report news to gain more information to report, to be able to report on what the Office's opinions are. Not about reporting the reporter's opinion.

 

[phrodeau]

The entire briefing is here: https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-pres...ss-gaggle-press-secretary-sean-spicer-2242017

I think it's clear that the briefing was off-camera because Trump made a speech the same day, and wanted his video to be seen rather than Sean Spicer's video.

As for excluding correspondents, Spicer's excuses are particularly lame. He said he wanted to expand the pool to allow some new media sites into their limited space. Which was understandable, until someone pointed out that there was plenty of room for the excluded ones there.

 

[Maidboy]

Not the way our electoral system works and it's not changing. As for the "Resistance", spare me. Just a bunch of snowflakes throwing tantrums. Don't care. Trash Socal, Seattle, New York, Chicago, Baltimore, Atlanta and wherever. Don't care. They can burn them down if they like. No loss.

Face it, we're a society that's been split down the middle for decades and that split's getting more and more cast in stone. You don't want to compromise with people like me and I have no interest in compromising with you. As far as I'm concerned, we'd better better of splitting into two. Or maybe four. When you add in La Raza and BLM, maybe that's a four way split.

And it's the left that's pushing this all the way and has been for decades. Anyhow, I gotta run, it's been fun chatting and thx for having me. Enjoy the coffee, I gotta stop this social stuff and get my little butt back to writing erotic stories.... so drop by and read mine ... I generally keep the politics out of them so you might even enjoy .

Yes, you run along and write your little stroke stories, but no thanks, I'll take a pass on reading them. I find childish, self-centered, willful ignorance and bigotry on the part of the author to be a turn-off. But thanks for the coffee. Now if you'll excuse me, this little snowflake is off to stand with his African-American, Latino, Asian-American, Middle Eastern, Native American and LGBT brothers and sisters at the next tantrum.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Now that torture and black sites are cool again, Chloe's very excited about all the job opportunities opening up in the Trump Administration.

Second choice: Deportation agent, specializing in the sneaky ones.

She comes highly recommended, with Kim Jong Nam on her resume. Granted, that was a little sloppy, but just give her a liberal, and she'll get the job done

Ohhhhh, yes. I've got just the outfit. Lots of black leather and those cool mirror shades. Lol.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Yes, you run along and write your little stroke stories, but no thanks, I'll take a pass on reading them..

Ohhhh and you say that with a straight face. On Literotica? ROTFLMAO.

Glad you enjoyed the coffee.