Giving credit where it is due

[BoyNextDoor]

A moratorium on entry from countries where we in the US need to review our vetting process and to make sure all measures are being taken to prevent the entry of potentially dangerous people is LONG overdue. Other countries should do the same.

It is good policy and it sends the right message.

 

[FeeNicks]

Other cuntries do, Bum Next Door

 

[Hard_Rom]

The last batch of Syrian refugees who came to Canada went through some extreme vetting. We also pretty much disallowed single males. Just full families allowed with complete documentation and histories.

 

[phrodeau]

Our vetting process is very stringent. Again, Trump sledgehammers a solution that is not needed.

 

[zipman]

A moratorium on entry from countries where we in the US need to review our vetting process and to make sure all measures are being taken to prevent the entry of potentially dangerous people is LONG overdue. Other countries should do the same.

It is good policy and it sends the right message.

What makes you think it isn't? Asides from Trump saying it.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

What makes you think it isn't? Asides from Trump saying it.

Hmmmm.

Maybe because the FBI said there are several countries that simply do not have the infrastructure and or records to allow for proper review.

Maybe.....

But that would only matter to someone who was not dishonest.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Hmmmm.

Maybe because the FBI said there are several countries that simply do not have the infrastructure and or records to allow for proper review.

Maybe.....

But that would only matter to someone who was not dishonest.

Then you send over foreign office teams backed up by intelligence officers to the camps. And if documentation is not available then they don't get in. It's unfortunate that some families who have no documentation won't make the grade. But there are more than enough with proper histories to fill the need for new workers and consumers.

All our refugees came from established camps in the more peaceful countries and had already been registered with the UNHCR

Normally, government-sponsored refugees go through three levels of intense screening for criminality, war crimes and medical needs. UNHCR officials conduct detailed interviews and identity checks in the country of first asylum. Even if Syrians don’t have passports, most carry national identity cards with bar codes.

“We question them about past or current military activities or affiliations, including their future plans. We have a number of biometric security and anti-fraud measures including iris scanning,” said a UNHCR spokesperson. The registration data is entered into an interconnected global system.

The UNHCR then triages the refugees, and selects a very small number (about 1 per cent) who would make good candidates for resettlement by countries such as Canada. Women with children, unaccompanied minors, the elderly, sick and vulnerable are given priority. Young, single men who may have been combatants, or cannot account for missing identity documents, do not make the cut, said Peter Showler, the former head of Canada’s Immigration and Refugee Board, who has worked as a consultant for the UNHCR.

Finally, Canadian visa officers based in the Middle East interview the refugees again to ensure their stories have no discrepancies. Their names are run through various databases, including the CBSA, CSIS and RCMP.

To make the job of screening easier in a compressed time line, the government could target refugees who are least likely to be security risks, including mothers and children, as well as relatives of Canada’s 40,000-strong Syrian community.

“Most of the refugees who come to Canada are families or mothers with children who have been living in camp-like situations for many months. We know what they have been up to,” said Ratna Omidvar,

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...l-face-three-levels-of-intense-screening.html

We took in 25,000 without much difficulty. The US has far more resources for that sort of thing and could take in 50,000 easily with a bit of work, patience and Christian charity.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

Then you send over foreign office teams backed up by intelligence officers to the camps. And if documentation is not available then they don't get in. It's unfortunate that some families who have no documentation won't make the grade. But there are more than enough with proper histories to fill the need for new workers and consumers.

We took in 25,000 without much difficulty. The US has far more resources for that sort of thing and could take in 50,000 easily with a bit of work, patience and Christian charity.

I agree.

So does Trump, so he says. This is a temporary ban. He is looking to strengthen the process and resource to properly screen.

Canada, and many other countries, use a series of questions recently developed that are suppose to be very effective.

Of course, we refused to implement these questions as they are "too evasive".

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Our vetting process is very stringent. Again, Trump sledgehammers a solution that is not needed.

So let the 63M get a review of the whole thing from "their guy" and feel better about it. What is the cost? 120 days of suspended free flow across the border of people from seven countries.

(I also happen to agree that the review is needed if for nothing else get some real publicity that we are going to not tolerate abuse of the immigrations system of anyone wanting to come in here and I am the furthest thing from a supporter of this President)

 

[EternalFantasy]

Other cuntries do, Bum Next Door

R u calling Canadians bums?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I'm pretty much in favor of a new approach.



I think we know why some posters are opposed to it, so I'll leave it at that.

 

[Greypowerful]

Our vetting process is very stringent. Again, Trump sledgehammers a solution that is not needed.

Nicely put.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I was reading where we have the technology to issue a series of questions while monitoring the involuntary reactions of the bodies of the person being interrogated. I think it is being used in Israel. If I run across the information again, I'll link to it.


That's probably the direction in which we should head.

 

[Greypowerful]

R u calling Canadians bums?

Please don't feed the troll.

 

[jaF0]

A moratorium on entry from countries where we in the US need to review our vetting process and to make sure all measures are being taken to prevent the entry of potentially dangerous people is LONG overdue.

So, we should block entry to the Irish?

 

[VaticanAssassin]

I was reading where we have the technology to issue a series of questions while monitoring the involuntary reactions of the bodies of the person being interrogated. I think it is being used in Israel. If I run across the information again, I'll link to it.


That's probably the direction in which we should head.

That is what I was referring to. Canada and many other countries use it as well. DHS found it to be to evasive.

 

[Sean]

That is what I was referring to. Canada and many other countries use it as well. DHS found it to be to evasive.

Evasive?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

That is what I was referring to. Canada and many other countries use it as well. DHS found it to be to evasive.

DHS is now under new management who don't have a vested interest in promoting Islam in general and protecting Muslims in particular...



... so we will see. Every tool that we can employ is a step in the right direction.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

So, we should block entry to the Irish?

Does Ireland have a infrastructure/record keeping issue that prevents proper background checks?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Does Ireland have a infrastructure/record keeping issue that prevents proper background checks?

*chuckle*

 

[Greypowerful]

DHS is now under new management who don't have a vested interest in promoting Islam in general and protecting Muslims in particular...



... so we will see. Every tool that we can employ is a step in the right direction.

ROFL... You're beginning a "roll", I'm thinkin'

 

[Sean]

Does Ireland have a infrastructure/record keeping issue that prevents proper background checks?

My grand parents never had birth certificates or any official documentation their entire lives.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

My grand parents never had birth certificates or any official documentation their entire lives.

My horse, when I was 12, refused to cross water.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

ROFL... You're beginning a "roll", I'm thinkin'

Maybe I should fix myself an adult beverage.

 

[EternalFantasy]

Nicely put.

C'mon.

When the obvious is too easy, perhaps consider the non.. obvious.

Not to defend but in being clear, this seems to have to do with what's coming next in the subject of world events. Things are tighter and tighter, and we're in the bottle neck.