Trump pulls a North Korea

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In Trump's visit to the CIA to tell everyone how great they are, how no one has more respect for what they do than he does (after he railed against them throughout the campaign and more recently when revelations broke about the blackmail videos), it has to come light he took a page from Kim Jun Un's playbook.

At the meeting the first three rows of people were nothing but plants, people specifically invited to the event who, for obvious reasons, cheered his Orangutanness.

But as is always the case, the real people of the CIA knew what was going on and made pains to explain to the press the charade Trump had pulled. They even mentioned how uncomfortable it was to hear him whine in front of the monument to fallen CIA agents about how unfairly the press was treating him rather than honor those who lost their lives trying to protect this country (one or two, no doubt, who died as a result of Dick Cheney outing Valerie Plame when she was an undercover CIA agent).

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sources-say-theres-a-sense-of-unease-in-intel-community-after-trump-cia-visit/
 
And of course the "right" would never have said anything if Obama or HILLARY had done the same thing, or if Obama or HILLARY had issued a freakin' proclamation in their own honor. Nooooooo, they would have thought that was just dandy.
 
And of course the "right" would never have said anything if Obama or HILLARY had done the same thing, or if Obama or HILLARY had issued a freakin' proclamation in their own honor. Nooooooo, they would have thought that was just dandy.

Except Obama never sank to such depths to stroke his ego, did he?

Nope, only the con artist.
 
I hope you got something nice and shinny from Obama like the fools in Hollywood he gave those medals to for taking all their money over the last four years for "campaign fund". Don't tell them, but he wasn't running for anything and didn't give the money to Clinton or Sanders. Our secret.

The leftist or communists have nothing to cry about accept for the number of people who were at the swearing in or watched it. I mean they didn't have to go or watch. Look at the 60 low life democrats who slapped Obama and Clinton in the face by not going and showing their moral support and friendship for them. If the only thing you can cry about is "numbers" how about the number of lives that have been lost, sold into slavery or made homeless in this world by Obama's polices? How about his selling the Cubans down the river or his lack of respect for women? How about his racists behavior and lack of respect for the free leaders of the world while kissing the ass of all the dictators?

His beef with the so called "leaders" of the intelligence departments is justified. They are all Obama hacks who have all been called before Congress at one time or another for failures and incompetence and false reports. He went and saw the people who worked there. The professionals that Obama has kept from doing their job. Just like he has with the military. There are a lot of Generals and Admirals who are puppets and not military leaders. He came out against those fools too. He wants professionals, people who know what they are doing, not political hacks and liars and out right traitors.

Just like his beef with the lying press who are nothing but a bunch of Joseph Goebbels want a bees. Who put their own leftist political lies before the job of being reporters and answering the five W's, reporting only the facts, asking questions and reporting the answers as given. And finding out if those answers are honest ones. Instead they act like the world is flat and only the left wing communists know what is good for the people. That the people are fools who should be treated like slaves and lied to by the leaders.

You have not come up with anything that really has meaning or truth to it. But to help you I will be nice. Yes the world is flat and Washington is at one end and Hollywood at the other and all the leftist are being treated bad and need a hug and something shinny to play with. Reality shows are real, Clinton and Obama really care about women and human rights. And Bush is still president (according to Obama for the last eight years Bush has been running things and is at fault for all the failures). Oh and that great senator from Mass is really a Native American and not someone who stole an education from a real Native American. See now don't you feel all fuzzie and happy? And no one showed up for the swearing in or watched it. It was all a dream.


Now you can go back and cry tears for "numbers" and "hacks" and eight years of failure.
 
So much crap, so little time to shit.

Look at the 60 low life democrats who slapped Obama and Clinton in the face by not going and showing their moral support and friendship for them.

You mean like those Republicans who couldn't be bothered to attend Obama's inauguration?

If the only thing you can cry about is "numbers" how about the number of lives that have been lost, sold into slavery or made homeless in this world by Obama's polices?

I didn't know Obama was world president. When did this happen?

How about his selling the Cubans down the river or his lack of respect for women?

Funny, it's Trump lack of respect for women which is touted far and wide. Even on his inauguration he couldn't be bothered to be civil to his third wife.

Unlike Obama who, to his first and only wife, showed nothing but grace, class and complete and utter devotion.

In fact, here is what two prominent critics of Obama had to say about him:

Tom Cotton: "President Obama has been a good role model for young men throughout our society, especially people like him who grew up without a father."

"I think the kind of quiet dignity that he's brought to the private side of his life sets a really good example for young men all around the country who maybe don't have a father-figure or don't have a role model they can look up to."

Joe Manchin: "He really brought a lot of dignity to the office, when you look at basically his family life and how he raised these two wonderful daughters."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/18/politics/tom-cotton-joe-manchin-obama-legacy/index.html

How about his racists behavior and lack of respect for the free leaders of the world while kissing the ass of all the dictators?

Really now, your medication is wearing off. Go take your pills, go lie down and come back when you have something remotely realistic to say.


His beef with the so called "leaders" of the intelligence departments is justified.

Only if he wants to continue denying facts. It wasn't the CIA who made the dossier about the blackmail videos, it was a well respected former MI6 agent who had corroboration of their existence from independent sources:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

The problem is Trump's ego was bruised when facts about him were revealed. Trump is a narcissist and anything which makes him look bad, no matter the factual basis, is immediately discounted. He's done it all his life because he's so insecure.

They are all Obama hacks who have all been called before Congress at one time or another for failures and incompetence and false reports. He went and saw the people who worked there. The professionals that Obama has kept from doing their job. Just like he has with the military. There are a lot of Generals and Admirals who are puppets and not military leaders. He came out against those fools too. He wants professionals, people who know what they are doing, not political hacks and liars and out right traitors.

You've really lost it. If Obama "prevented" these people from doing their job why is it a woman at the CIA was able to track down Osama bin Laden which Obama had killed? Why is it all those terrorist leaders and cohorts are now dead? Was it happenstance or was it because unlike Trump, or even Bush/Cheney, Obama let them do their job, was presented with evidence of where those folks were and used that information to remove them?


Just like his beef with the lying press who are nothing but a bunch of Joseph Goebbels want a bees.

A) the term is wannabes and B) Trump and his cabal are the only ones lying. Since day one nothing but lies have come out from this administration. "Most well attended inauguration in history!"

No it wasn't. Not even close. And Spicer continued to argue even after shown the evidence. Then Conway came along and in some Alice in Wonderland daze said they had "alternative facts" to prove their point. There is no such thing as alternative facts. They're called lies.

Same thing between yesterday and today. Conway states on national tv Trump would never release his tax returns. They had litigated it all through the campaign (her words). Today she says, "Oh wait. He will release them. Once the audit is over."

But deplorables like you eat that stuff up because you're so blinded by your hatred for a black guy in the White House that reality means nothing. You're perfectly happy parroting the tabloids such as Fox and Breitbart, a result of which you have lost the ability of rational, intelligent, independent thought. Whatever they say, heck yeah! Them be right!

Who put their own leftist political lies before the job of being reporters and answering the five W's, reporting only the facts, asking questions and reporting the answers as given. And finding out if those answers are honest ones. Instead they act like the world is flat and only the left wing communists know what is good for the people. That the people are fools who should be treated like slaves and lied to by the leaders.

Your delusions are getting worse. Conway went off on the reporters because they questioned her and brought up facts. Her response, "Your job is not to call things ridiculous that are said by our press secretary and our president. That's not your job."

Really? It's not the job of the press to call out ridiculous, patently false comments by the press secretary or president? Pray tell, what is their job? To simply rubber stamp whatever is said? There's your Goebbels angle.

You have not come up with anything that really has meaning or truth to it.

Everything I have said is truthful. You're simply too dense to see reality. That's not my fault. I'm trying to bring you up to my level but you keep trying to pull me down. Sorry, if it's a choice between a person who is drowning and trying to drag us both down, I'm cutting them lose to save myself.

Now you can go back and cry tears for "numbers" and "hacks" and eight years of failure.

If a foreign government attempting, and apparently succeeding, to sway a U.S. election is no big deal to you then quite obviously you're not a true American. Reagan has probably drilled halfway to the core of the Earth he's turned over so many times from people like you dismissing foreign intervention in our affairs.

As to failure, it's funny how the third largest stock market gain in our country's history, the recovery of over 15 million jobs lost under a Republican administration, the recovery of the millions of homes lost under the same Republican administration, being pulled out of the worst recession in 80 years thanks to a Republican administration, not having planes slamming into buildings and killing thousands of people and having good relations with our friends is allies is considered a failure.

Apparently you are much happier when the stock market is collapsing, millions of people are losing their jobs, millions more are being thrown out of their homes, billions of taxpayer dollars are being given to Wall Street firms and banks so they can pay out their bonuses, and people are dying because the Republican in the White House ignores months of daily warnings of an impending attack.

It just shows how divorced from reality people such as yourself are.
 
"Your job is not to call things ridiculous that are said by our press secretary and our president. That's not your job."


CHUCK TODD: What was the motive to have this ridiculous litigation of crowd size?

KELLYANNE CONWAY: And now you're casting it--

CHUCK TODD: What was the motive?

KELLYANNE CONWAY: --and your job is not to give your--

CHUCK TODD: What was the motive?

KELLYANNE CONWAY: --opinion, Chuck. Respectfully, your job is not to call things ridiculous that are said by our press secretary and our president. That's not your job. You're supposed to be a news person. You're not an opinion columnist.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-of-alternative-facts/?utm_term=.7535909c2da4
 
"Your job is not to call things ridiculous that are said by our press secretary and our president. That's not your job."


CHUCK TODD: What was the motive to have this ridiculous litigation of crowd size?

KELLYANNE CONWAY: And now you're casting it--

CHUCK TODD: What was the motive?

KELLYANNE CONWAY: --and your job is not to give your--

CHUCK TODD: What was the motive?

KELLYANNE CONWAY: --opinion, Chuck. Respectfully, your job is not to call things ridiculous that are said by our press secretary and our president. That's not your job. You're supposed to be a news person. You're not an opinion columnist.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-of-alternative-facts/?utm_term=.7535909c2da4

And that's correct, by the way.
News often manipulate public opinion through subtle words.
Depending on how you phrase the report, same event becomes two completely different things.

The ideal news in the ideal world whould be impartial. But they are all opinionated today. It's not like it's limited only by the President or Press secretary. No. In fact, they should not deliver their personal opinions at all. They shouldn't call any situation "horrible", "ridiculous", or "marvelous". They should tell you the news and let you decide how ridiculous or horrible they were.

Sadly, that's not the case. You criticize north-Korean news for being too ideological and ass-licking towards their leader, how they brainwash their audience - yet this is essentially the same thing with US news. They too manipulate opinions a lot, the only differenct they are "free press" and thus think they can have opinions that ridicule the government.
While the truth is - they shouldn't telegraph opinions at all.
 
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I want to thank you and say how much I respect you for communicating. It is hard at times for people not to be a little disrespectful in politics, but you have shown and I hope I have that two people with different viewpoints can discuss those points like grown men and women. I admit some of what you say I agree with. You made some good points. Some I don’t agree with. But that is how free people live and act. We think for ourselves and not let someone else do it for us. Again I thank you and the sites for letting us have free speech.

So much crap, so little time to shit.
There is a bush just out back and you can use all the cry baby news sheets the leftist media put out about Clinton losing the election. Sorry that was impolite but I couldn’t pass up a set up like that.

ook at the 60 low life democrats who slapped Obama and Clinton in the face by not going and showing their moral support and friendship for them.
You mean like those Republicans who couldn't be bothered to attend Obama's inauguration?
Hey if there were any Republicans who acted like low life spoiled little jerks as Puppet Thomas and his bunch did then they are just as rotten and disgraceful.

If the only thing you can cry about is "numbers" how about the number of lives that have been lost, sold into slavery or made homeless in this world by Obama's polices?
I didn't know Obama was world president. When did this happen?
I realize that Obama doesn’t take any responsibility for his administration. It was his failure in policies, his weakness that has given the terrorist the ability to carry out these crimes, but most likely it wasn’t Obama’s fault. Most likely Clinton and Kerry. Yea let’s blame them.

How about his selling the Cubans down the river or his lack of respect for women?
Funny, it's Trump lack of respect for women which is touted far and wide. Even on his inauguration he couldn't be bothered to be civil to his third wife.
You’ve probably never had an ex wife or girl friend, I have and some of them are down right uncivil. I don’t invite my ex to any function I go to. As far as Obama, you probably were asleep when the Obama’s went to South Africa for the late Presidents funeral and that picture of him and the lady form I believe Germany and the look Mrs. Obama gave him. At a state funeral of all things. Even Clinton never did that. I’m surprised she didn’t back hand him. As for his respect for women, remember he signed a law saying that men, and they don’t even have to have a history of being transgender, can go into a women’s rest room with little girls there or into women’s locker rooms and showers. That men can compete in women’s sports and cheat. You may not remember, but there was a time when the world both hated and laugh at the Communists and how they used “transgender” athletes at the Olympics. Now we are just as rotten as they were. No neither the Clinton’s or the Obama’s have shown any respect for women or they would be all over the leaders of the world who treat women so shamefully and even kill them. Mrs. Clinton’s most favorite case was destroying a 12 year old little girl’s life who was raped.
As for the Cubans they can’t become citizens of this country unless Castro approves.
How about his racists behavior and lack of respect for the free leaders of the world while kissing the ass of all the dictators?
Really now, your medication is wearing off. Go take your pills, go lie down and come back when you have something remotely realistic to say.
No, I’m not a pot head. The Obama’s showed even before they were in the White House that they were racists by being a member of the so called Rev. Wright’s group. He has used race to divide the country, yet he has done nothing to make his buddy the mayor of Chicago or any Civil Rights Groups, especially the “Black Life Matters” do anything to stop the killings there. Over 3.000 people have been murdered. But those lives don’t matter. (by the way the “black lives matter” are getting their money from the former Nazi boy Soros.
Obama made a tour of the world dictators when he first took office and kissed all their butts. Yet not one of them showed him any respect, not even Castro or Chavez. And he insulted the leaders of Europe, Middle East, Africa and Asia and South American who were allies or friends. Foreign policy wasn’t one of his best things.
His beef with the so called "leaders" of the intelligence departments is justified.
His beef with the leaders yes, not with the professionals that Obama has handcuffed from doing their job just as he has the military and law enforcement. Most of those so called leaders have been up in front of Congress at least once for incompetence, failures, or cover-ups. Fire the corrupt and liars and replace with professionals who aren’t afraid to do their job.
The problem is Trump's ego was bruised when facts about him were revealed. Trump is a narcissist and anything which makes him look bad, no matter the factual basis, is immediately discounted. He's done it all his life because he's so insecure.
Talk about insecure, look at Hillary Clinton who roped off the press because she was afraid they might ask her questions or Obama who always hid when there was a world or internal problem to be handled. Oh yes he would go on the air if some hood got himself shot and put his worthless two cents in, but if it had to do with world or U. S. Security he was very insecure. Even when he controlled Congress he didn’t trust them. He had his puppets make sure they were a do nothing and he “ruled” from the White House with his phone.

Trump has an ego, the ego of a man who is use to dealing with other people and saying what he thinks and doing what he thinks is right. He keeps his promises. He has done more in the first day than Obama did in his first 100. Yea the man has an ego. And he isn’t a politician

You've really lost it. If Obama "prevented" these people from doing their job why is it a woman at the CIA was able to track down Osama bin Laden which Obama had killed?
I agree with you here. It is a wonder she got away with it, especially after Clinton and Obama had shown the white flag to the terrorist. He was put in an embarrassing spot by the CIA and the military. If he had done what he did for the murders in Gitmo and softness on terrorists here at home we may have lost him, but he knew if he did that even the snow flakes who worship him would have turned on him and Clinton. They had to let the military do their job. He can have all the credit he wishes, the people know who really did the job. God Bless Them.

Just like his beef with the lying press who are nothing but a bunch of Joseph Goebbels want a bees.
A) the term is wannabes Thank you. I stand corrected. I was in error in my spelling. Had liberal school teachers is the only excuse I can give.
Remember way back when if the owner or editor of a station or paper wanted to make a political statement, they used the “editoral” for it? That reporters had a job of being reporters, finding the facts, asking the 5 W’s, checking their sources and finding the story behind the story and reporting only what was happening? Now of course there are no reporters left in this country. Not one paper, not one radio or TV station that the people can trust to report the truth and facts. All have their own political agenda, and most are not even smart enough to have their OWN political agenda. They are actors, talking heads and one day they may work for a conservative station and lean their reports that way and then move to a leftist station and lean their reports that way. Actors! Court Jesters. No wonder no one takes anything you hear on the news serious. Like they have spent days on “numbers, how many people were at the swearing in and watched it”. I watch news from Japan and England and other countries who know the world is round and that real people, not reality show people populate the world. But you go ahead with the comic stations and the wannabes Joseph Goebbels.

Foreign governments like Communists nations have wanted to destroy and sway our elections for years and years. What happened was Hillary’s emails and the DNC’s were hacked and the man who reported them said he didn’t get them from the Russians. Oh the Russians, China, Iran, and some 12 year old gamer in lower Boston hacked them all right. What with the stupid security and ego of Clinton and her fools it had to be easy. And we all know that Obama worked for a ballot stuffing outfit called ACORN and that most democrat cities are run by machines who aren’t real careful if the dead, etc. want to cast a vote. It was the outside counties where the citizens are real that won the election for Trump. Clinton’s ego was her worst enemy. She lost to Obama for the same reason and didn’t learn a thing. No one to blame but herself and those fool buddies of hers. You saw how she treated the people who gave their time and hard earn money for her election on the night she lost. Told them to get lost and go home, she didn’t want to see them anymore. So yes foreign governments want to destroy our election process and we have many people here who want to help with illegal voters and stuff ballot boxes. Maybe someday it will be Federal Law that I. D. must be shown just like cashing a check (oh and only the left say that minorities and poor and the elderly are too stupid to get I.D.’s even when you can register at the DMV where you get the I.D.’s) But that is the left for you.
 
Communists and how they used “transgender” athletes at the Olympics.
Frankly, there weren't such cases. There were, however, cases of so much stimulants and doping that women started looking male-ish. And not only by Russia - a lot of people did that, back when doping was unregulated.

But never heard about any transgender stuff. I'm not sure it was even possible back then.
 
Jeez some of you guys are just ANGRY cuz your annoited queen Hillary couldn't have her coranation. And if you want to blame someone blame your f*cking golden boy Barack Hussein Obama for setting up the precedent for using executive orders. I mean Trump is just being a good business man and using your own tactics against you.
 
And of course the "right" would never have said anything if Obama or HILLARY had done the same thing, or if Obama or HILLARY had issued a freakin' proclamation in their own honor. Nooooooo, they would have thought that was just dandy.

His declaring his own inauguration a day of worship was FUBAR
 
Jeez some of you guys are just ANGRY cuz your annoited queen Hillary couldn't have her coranation. And if you want to blame someone blame your f*cking golden boy Barack Hussein Obama for setting up the precedent for using executive orders. I mean Trump is just being a good business man and using your own tactics against you.

Wait? What? You mean Obama was the first president to use an executive order?

You might want to tell the news about this because this is truly astonishing. All the history books will have to be rewritten to state it wasn't George Washington, and every other president since then who used executive orders, but Barack Obama.

What makes this all the more pathetic is when Bush was doing it not a peep came out Republicans. None. They were absolutely silent. It was only when Obama followed a nearly 200 year history of presidents that suddenly executive orders became a travesty.

When you get just as frothy-mouthed when a Republican uses executive orders, something I'm told is unconstitutional, then we can talk. Until such time, fuck off you cocksucking hypocrite.

P.S. Obama had fewer executive orders than did Bush or Reagan:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php
 
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Yea but wasn't it Obama who flouted the power of executive orders? He said something like "i have a pen and i have a phone." Not to mention he purposefully used executive orders to get around how many rules?
 
Yea but wasn't it Obama who flouted the power of executive orders? He said something like "i have a pen and i have a phone." Not to mention he purposefully used executive orders to get around how many rules?

What's clear is that you are an adherent of alternate facts. :rolleyes:
 
Hey Pilot, do you have any back channel at Langley that will fill you in on the Trump rally there? Is it true he packed the two front rows with cheerleaders? His remarks reported in the media were some serious pandering, How did that go down with the rank and file?

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Found one comment from a former spook.
‘You almost want to cry’: Ex-CIA officer slams Trump’s ‘disgusting’ speech before memorial to dead agents

Former CIA Deputy Director Philip Mudd on Tuesday slammed Donald Trump’s “disgusting” speech to CIA officials over the weekend, telling CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, he almost wanted to cry after the president’s self-aggrandizing presentation.

On CNN’s “The Situation Room,” Blitzer asked Mudd to comment on Trump’s speech Saturday, wherein the president focused almost exclusively on his “running war with the media,” and what he perceives as unfair coverage of his inauguration crowd size.

Trump’s speech even drew a rebuke from former CIA Director John Brennan, who said he was “deeply saddened and angered” by Trump’s display.

Tuesday, Mudd echoed Brennan’s sentiment, telling Blitzer, “You almost want to cry, Wolf.”

“I mean there’s a sense of outrage, but there’s also such a sense of sadness,” Mudd added. “Those aren’t stars, Wolf, those are people.”

“We have a president who has to talk about how many times he’s been on a Time Magazine cover in comparison to a football player,” Mudd later added. “He has to talk about how many people showed up at his inauguration. He’s got to talk about how many people in the CIA enjoyed his speech. That’s what we get to honor the people who lost their lives.”

Not everyone applauded, I guess?

Resist!
 
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