Who Determines Morality?

[BattlingSoul]

How does evolution account for morality?

From an evolutionary stand point, is there an ABSOLUTE morality?

The guy who is the biggest or has the biggest stick, under evolution and survival of the fittest, seems to be the one who can set morality. But when he is taken over or dies, then a new set of morales can be implemented...right?

Just because something is moral for you, does not mean it's moral for me, as SELF is greatly emphasized in evolution and survival of the fittest...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Lord Buddha.



Meditate on it.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Glad you asked.

Its simple.

What works gets passed along to our progeny via our genes.

 

[BattlingSoul]

Glad you asked.

Its simple.

What works gets passed along to our progeny via our genes.

But that does not answer the question of an Ultimate or absolute morality...

 

[Lancecastor]

And Mr. T makes morality mortality.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

But that does not answer the question of an Ultimate or absolute morality...

There is THE DEED and there is THE CONFABULATION of the deed's meaning. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. God only gives a shit about results. What works goes to the next generation via genes. That's so the smart ass kids cant blow it off.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

But that does not answer the question of an Ultimate or absolute morality...

Sure it does. When animals, including man, started hunting in packs, that efficiency defined the necessity of, for lack of a better word, 'loyalty' among the pack members. It would not do for them to try and eat each other.

As man's intelligence evolved it was a short leap from packs to 'tribes' to 'civilizations.' Hammurabi is credited as being one of the first rulers to invoke a set of laws by which a civilization would be regulated.

He did so from a religious perspective of morality.

In the preface to the law, he states, "Anu and Bel called by name me, Hammurabi, the exalted prince, who feared God, to bring about the rule of righteousness in the land, to destroy the wicked and the evil-doers; so that the strong should not harm the weak; so that I should rule over the black-headed people like Shamash, and enlighten the land, to further the well-being of mankind."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi

We can debate HOW man came up with the idea of God or whether God exists independently of man and irrefutably communicates directly TO man (or at least some of us), but the concept of efficiency in the function of groups, or as trashman says, "that which works" is a valid explanation if one wants to adhere strictly to an evolutionary world view.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

But when he is taken over or dies, then a new set of morales can be implemented

I'm cool with Esai Morales takin' over. Dude is never not sharp.

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Bing+Presents+Sing+Song+Official+Cast+Filmmakers+A3XnzZ4LF7Dl.jpg

http://www.moviemagik.in/files/actors/1484/Esai%20Morales%20pic%206.jpg

 

[BattlingSoul]

Sure it does. When animals, including man, started hunting in packs, that efficiency defined the necessity of, for lack of a better word, 'loyalty' among the pack members. It would not do for them to try and eat each other.

As man's intelligence evolved it was a short leap from packs to 'tribes' to 'civilizations.' Hammurabi is credited as being one of the first rulers to invoke a set of laws by which a civilization would be regulated.

He did so from a religious perspective of morality.



We can debate HOW man came up with the idea of God or whether God exists independently of man and irrefutably communicates directly TO man (or at least some of us), but the concept of efficiency in the function of groups, or as trashman says, "that which works" is a valid explanation if one wants to adhere strictly to an evolutionary world view.

But what one group of men say is moral, another may not...right?

So how is the ABSOLUTE source of morality arrived upon?

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Morality is not absolute.

y/w

PS - Who fucked you up? The Catholics?

 

[Liar]

But what one group of men say is moral, another may not...right?

So how is the ABSOLUTE source of morality arrived upon?

There are variations in the details. That's just fluff, idiosyncracies and politics.

Look at the big picture and you'll find common themes.

 

[BattlingSoul]

Morality is not absolute.

y/w

PS - Who fucked you up? The Catholics?

Not even remotely Catholic...

I go by what the Bible says, not what men may teach...

 

[pensivepoet]

Depends where you are
In the South, it's Larry the cable guy

 

[Colonel Hogan]

But what one group of men say is moral, another may not...right?

So how is the ABSOLUTE source of morality arrived upon?

So the very fact that there are significant differences in what constitutes morality would ARGUE AGAINST your contention that there is an absolute source. I understand where you are coming from, but the very structure of your argument is working AGAINST your conclusion.

Better try a different track.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Not even remotely Catholic...

I go by what the Bible says, not what men may teach...

Great. That will make this conversation so much easier:

The bible was written by men.

 

[Ms_Ann]

There are no absolutes.

 

[EternalFantasy]

Hogan there's a distinction between the op's question and regulation.

OP, you bet your heiny there is absolute "morality". I think ur referring to something more basic tho.. like some ultimate law.. ultimate code of behavior. And you are not looking for anyone to tell you what that is. You are looking for how to find it.

One has to go back to the very beginning, and critically construct forward, and think of the essentials - and not be thine own enemy.

Good luck.

 

[EternalFantasy]

There are no absolutes.

That gives comfort, doesn't it.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Who Determines Morality?

I do, by absolute supreme divine sovereign autocratic command while drunk.

 

[Liar]

I do, by absolute supreme divine sovereign autocratic command while drunk.

That kind of explains a lot.

 

[BattlingSoul]

Hogan there's a distinction between the op's question and regulation.

OP, you bet your heiny there is absolute "morality". I think ur referring to something more basic tho.. like some ultimate law.. ultimate code of behavior. And you are not looking for anyone to tell you what that is. You are looking for how to find it.

One has to go back to the very beginning, and critically construct forward, and think of the essentials - and not be thine own enemy.

Good luck.

I know my thoughts on the subject, I ask questions to see what OTHERS may think...

 

[EternalFantasy]

I know my thoughts on the subject, I ask questions to see what OTHERS may think...

Ma Lord

http://walkworthy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/BOW-DOWN.jpg

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Hogan there's a distinction between the op's question and regulation.

OP, you bet your heiny there is absolute "morality". I think ur referring to something more basic tho.. like some ultimate law.. ultimate code of behavior. And you are not looking for anyone to tell you what that is. You are looking for how to find it.

One has to go back to the very beginning, and critically construct forward, and think of the essentials - and not be thine own enemy.

Good luck.

Really?

Thou shalt not kill.

 

[RUlookingup]

I know pornography when I see it.

 

[BattlingSoul]

Ma Lord

http://walkworthy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/BOW-DOWN.jpg

So are you a Muslim?