How To Get To Heaven When You Die

[Hard_Rom]

Says you.

I chose to be a Calvinist because then I can do whatever I want as my destiny has already been determined.

Then I would suggest Norse paganism. Gods are much more interesting and fun. You won't see Jesus in a super-hero movie.

 

[nerfhearder]

Then I would suggest Norse paganism. Gods are much more interesting and fun. You won't see Jesus in a super-hero movie.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0358236/

 

[KingOrfeo]

Then I would suggest Norse paganism. Gods are much more interesting and fun.

But if you die of natural causes, the afterlife sux.

And if you die in battle, you get to do it again every day until Ragnarok.

 

[Hard_Rom]

But if you die of natural causes, the afterlife sux.

And if you die in battle, you get to do it again every day until Ragnarok.

The Norse afterlife for those who did not die in battle is debateable as to whether it was a cold dreary place. There is a thought that Christian influences bring the idea of punishment to the after life.

Norse paganism held that life is cyclical. After Ragnorak the world is reborn. So even if you don't go to some God or Goddess' feasting hall, its not forever.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

If you put the stuff about accepting jesus as your savior in your Will, is that enough to get in?

No, it has to be a personal relationship between You and Jesus. When you become born again, God opens your awareness and understanding of who He really is and you become aware of His presence with you in your life.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Can I wait until I am on my deathbed before accepting Jesus into my life?

 

[Emerson40]

http://68.media.tumblr.com/ec08f787b82061d0822c8907daaf4abe/tumblr_oj13sccMy91qzag1wo1_500.jpg

 

[Hard_Rom]

Laid on a crash cart while they jump started the old ticker. Didn't see any light. Maybe it was because I am a sinner who has not accepted Jesus, or you actually have to flatline or its all bullshit.

 

[Noor]

So has anyone been converted or born again yet based on this thread?

 

[Tryharder62]

Can I wait until I am on my deathbed before accepting Jesus into my life?

Laid on a crash cart while they jump started the old ticker. Didn't see any light. Maybe it was because I am a sinner who has not accepted Jesus, or you actually have to flatline or its all bullshit.

Crap that sounds scary. I had a heart issue in October. My heart was beating 160 to 180 per minute and felt like Sigourney Weaver in Alien. You know when that thing pops out of her chest. I didn't see a white light either. I thought I was toast.

I don't wait on anything, though. My luck I would commit to doing something tomorrow and would end up dying in my sleep.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

So has anyone been converted or born again yet based on this thread?

DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS GIFT OF SALVATION BELIEVING HE DIED N ROSE AGAIN FOR YOUR SINS?

YES 15 13.16%
NO 57 50.00%
I ALREADY ACCEPTED JESUS GIFT OF SALVATION BEFORE 32 28.07%
OTHER 10 8.77%
Voters: 114. You have already voted on this poll

 

[Hard_Rom]

Crap that sounds scary. I had a heart issue in October. My heart was beating 160 to 180 per minute and felt like Sigourney Weaver in Alien. You know when that thing pops out of her chest. I didn't see a white light either. I thought I was toast.

I don't wait on anything, though. My luck I would commit to doing something tomorrow and would end up dying in my sleep.

Mid-30s and in great shape I could take a heart rate of 160-180 after an intense cardio exercise or activity. Me and my younger brother after a X-country ski race between us both. Jabbing at one another's quick release levers and bumping and shoving. He died after his fastest run ever of his 10k local run at 38.

160-180 after a healthy activity is fine. From illness or stress not so good.

My mum said her prayers every night before she went to bed. She was kind hearted and charitable. Heard her say 'shit' maybe 3X. Would have 1 or 2 White Russians maybe 3X a year. Was good to animals and helped kids and single mums. I have faith that she went to heaven. Even if I don't believe.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Heart attacks hurt like fuck. Pain is unbearable. They say like an elephant sitting on your chest. Fuck that! It is jumping up and down on your chest, laughing at you telling you you're going to die. Did not realize or denied I was having first heart attack. Passed out in emerge after increasing pain for 2 hours. Last heart attack was 4+ hrs of the bastard elephant. Morphine didn't do shit!

I should have time to accept Jesus if I want. My brother was gone in 5 minutes. My dad in 15. My mum had a heart attack on the Saturday night and a sudden death on Wednesday morning.

We all got it coming.

 

[Mello_SixtyNine]

http://i.imgur.com/Ep5DEWr.jpg

 

[Tryharder62]

Mid-30s and in great shape I could take a heart rate of 160-180 after an intense cardio exercise or activity. Me and my younger brother after a X-country ski race between us both. Jabbing at one another's quick release levers and bumping and shoving. He died after his fastest run ever of his 10k local run at 38.

160-180 after a healthy activity is fine. From illness or stress not so good.

My mum said her prayers every night before she went to bed. She was kind hearted and charitable. Heard her say 'shit' maybe 3X. Would have 1 or 2 White Russians maybe 3X a year. Was good to animals and helped kids and single mums. I have faith that she went to heaven. Even if I don't believe.

Heart attacks hurt like fuck. Pain is unbearable. They say like an elephant sitting on your chest. Fuck that! It is jumping up and down on your chest, laughing at you telling you you're going to die. Did not realize or denied I was having first heart attack. Passed out in emerge after increasing pain for 2 hours. Last heart attack was 4+ hrs of the bastard elephant. Morphine didn't do shit!

I should have time to accept Jesus if I want. My brother was gone in 5 minutes. My dad in 15. My mum had a heart attack on the Saturday night and a sudden death on Wednesday morning.

We all got it coming.

Sorry to hear about the losses in your life. You aren't kidding it hurts. I couldn't breath it hurt so bad.

Your story of your mum reminds me of my grandmother. Great lady. Didn't ever hear her cuss but didn't know a word she used occassionally was actually a cuss word in the dialect she spoke in Belgium. Grandma liked a cold beer on a hot day. She could only drink a half a one as she got older. Living through the American Great Depression she wouldn't waste it. She would put it in the fridge and would have it the next day.(FLAT! YUK!) She prayed her rosary every day, prayed for us, and did what she felt was right according to her faith. Some in my protestant faith may think she is in hell. If a faith has a person constantly in fear, I suggest they look around.

Love you a bushel and a peck and a hug around the neck(she would say to us)

She's in a good place.

 

[Hard_Rom]

"You have to stop hyper-ventilating" was what I heard for 4 hrs. I get 'animated' when in pain. Legs do like a pedalling motion.

Family pets are in heaven too. Screw what dogma says. I got faith there is a place for innocent animals in heaven. If it actually exists.

 

[Noor]

DO YOU ACCEPT JESUS GIFT OF SALVATION BELIEVING HE DIED N ROSE AGAIN FOR YOUR SINS?

YES 15 13.16%
NO 57 50.00%
I ALREADY ACCEPTED JESUS GIFT OF SALVATION BEFORE 32 28.07%
OTHER 10 8.77%
Voters: 114. You have already voted on this poll

This is only truly interesting if we knew how people felt before and after your posts.

I have not changed my stance. Still not a Christian.
The messiah has yet to come

 

[Hard_Rom]

This is only truly interesting if we knew how people felt before and after your posts.

I have not changed my stance. Still not a Christian.
The messiah has yet to come

Not very convincing arguments for accepting Jesus posted by the OP. Anyone can just quote scripture. Army chaplains never quoted scripture. The esoteric philosophies of Aquinas hold more weight than scripture.

 

[Tryharder62]

"You have to stop hyper-ventilating" was what I heard for 4 hrs. I get 'animated' when in pain. Legs do like a pedalling motion.

Family pets are in heaven too. Screw what dogma says. I got faith there is a place for innocent animals in heaven. If it actually exists.

I think you have heaven pretty much figured out, if it exists. Roscoe the cat will be there. She was with me through some of the toughest crap. Found her in a parking lot near a corn field when she was a little kitten. She almost got hit. Couldn't find her momma. Never really bonded with anyone else in the house, but she was very protective of me.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Heart attacks hurt like fuck. Pain is unbearable. They say like an elephant sitting on your chest. Fuck that! It is jumping up and down on your chest, laughing at you telling you you're going to die. Did not realize or denied I was having first heart attack. Passed out in emerge after increasing pain for 2 hours. Last heart attack was 4+ hrs of the bastard elephant. Morphine didn't do shit!

I should have time to accept Jesus if I want. My brother was gone in 5 minutes. My dad in 15. My mum had a heart attack on the Saturday night and a sudden death on Wednesday morning.

We all got it coming.

But you can be sure NOW that you are going to go to heaven. Choose life.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

I think you have heaven pretty much figured out, if it exists. Roscoe the cat will be there. She was with me through some of the toughest crap. Found her in a parking lot near a corn field when she was a little kitten. She almost got hit. Couldn't find her momma. Never really bonded with anyone else in the house, but she was very protective of me.

 

[Tryharder62]

Hard Rom has a very interesting way with words. I was responding to some of his comments like having faith his mother went to heaven. "Even if I don't believe." He has faith there is a place in heaven for animals. "If heaven actually exists". I enjoy his posts.

I was winking to tell him I think his ideas of heaven are right on. ( I kinda think he might believe there is one)

People debate whether animals go to heaven or not. There are arguments for and against. It could go on for pages. I think there are animals in heaven.

Best article I found to express my thoughts--better than I could.
http://www.joshhunt.com/2010/10/08/pets-in-heaven-randy-alcorn/

 

[Hard_Rom]

( I kinda think he might believe there is one[/url]

Take that back! I've broken all the seven deadly sins repeatedly. Kinda hit and miss on the seven virtues. I'm hell bound for sure. If there is one. If there is a heaven there is a hell.

 

[BattlingSoul]

This is only truly interesting if we knew how people felt before and after your posts.

I have not changed my stance. Still not a Christian.
The messiah has yet to come

Are you being serious when you say the Messiah still has not come or is it just an off the cuff remark?

 

[BattlingSoul]

Take that back! I've broken all the seven deadly sins repeatedly. Kinda hit and miss on the seven virtues. I'm hell bound for sure. If there is one. If there is a heaven there is a hell.

Sincerely NOT trying to get preachy here, but how good or bad we are has NOTHING to do with whether we get into Heaven or not...

It is about repenting (which the church has mis-defined). Repentance is "changing your mind" about WHO Jesus Christ is and WHAT he did for mankind...

To support my statement, I would suggest one read the book of Romans, Paul understood the concept perfectly...

While those of us who share the gospel may be from from perfect, the gospel itself IS perfect...