Mass shootings -- what's happened to us?!

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We have always had a lot of gun violence in American society. But we have not always had a pointless random massacre of multiple innocents every few months. That was almost unheard of before the 1990s. What is wrong with us?! How did we get here?!
 
We have always had a lot of gun violence in American society. But we have not always had a pointless random massacre of multiple innocents every few months. That was almost unheard of before the 1990s. What is wrong with us?! How did we get here?!

We gave them free reign places to do it and the 15 min of fame they desire if they do it.

Want to be famous? Go rack up a body count at your local Gun Free Zone.
 
Between 1999-2014, over 400,000 people were killed by guns in the USA.

However, 60% of those were suicides.

Nonetheless, the USA is consistently the place to be if you want to be killed by a bullet.

https://everytownresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/GunTrends_murders_per_1000.png

Not really, the numbers are tiny and for the most part in black neighborhoods.

Otherwise it's just like the rest of the 1st world with a touch of the 3rd.

None of that has fuck all to do with mass shootings though. :)
 
We gave them free reign places to do it and the 15 min of fame they desire if they do it.

Want to be famous? Go rack up a body count at your local Gun Free Zone.

Exactly on the money and not at all what king orfeo wants to hear.
 
Not really, the numbers are tiny and for the most part in black neighborhoods.

Otherwise it's just like the rest of the 1st world with a touch of the 3rd.

None of that has fuck all to do with mass shootings though. :)

And the rest of the world is the place to be if you wish to leave 2nd and 3rd world...
 
I have a concealed carry license and take my gun every where I go, I hope I never have to use it, but if I am in a situation where one of the crazies are, trust me, I will be shooting back...
 
Exactly on the money and not at all what king orfeo wants to hear.

That's because he's insane enough to think Gun Free Zones are actually gun free and prevent mass shootings.

Bill Clinton told him so!!
 
We gave them free reign places to do it . . .

Most of these shootings don't happen in "gun-free zones," though they do often happen in places we simply and reasonably assume will be gun-free, like schools and airports and movie theaters. And I'm not confident any "good guy with a gun" on the scene of any of them would have made much of a difference.

Anyway, the question is, why did this start happening, back in the '90s? Any shooter in earlier decades would have gotten just as much publicity.

This change, whatever caused it, is not a matter of gun availability -- a shooter could have gotten his hands on just as deadly a weapon in 1970 as now. This is a behavioral problem.
 
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Most of these shootings don't happen in "gun-free zones," though they do often happen in places we simply and reasonably assume will be gun-free, like schools and airports and movie theaters. And I'm not confident any "good guy with a gun" on the scene of any of them would have made much of a difference.

Anyway, the question is, why did this start happening, back in the '90s? Any shooter in earlier decades would have gotten just as much publicity.

This change, whatever caused it, is not a matter of gun availability -- a shooter could have gotten his hands on just as deadly a weapon in 1970 as now. This is a behavioral problem.

Agreed - I think part of it is MASS MEDIA, a whack job KNOWS they will literally be all over the world in MINUTES...
 
we've raised a nation of self centered, alienated cunts who find dealing with a cashier at the grocery store unbearably burdensome.
 
SSRIs mixed with attention whoring. If we ended the Big Pharma reign over the US levels would likely drop by 80%
 
Most of these shootings don't happen in "gun-free zones," though they do often happen in places we simply and reasonably assume will be gun-free, like schools and airports and movie theaters. .

You mean places with signs like this:

http://images.mydoorsign.com/img/lg/S/no-firearms-allowed-notice-sign-s-4301.png

Most places where mass shootings take place have signs like that, with little or no way to enforce the ban.


Anyway, the question is, why did this start happening, back in the '90s? Any shooter in earlier decades would have gotten just as much publicity.

This change, whatever caused it, is not a matter of gun availability -- a shooter could have gotten his hands on just as deadly a weapon in 1970 as now. This is a behavioral problem.

It is probably significant that Al Queda, the Taliban, Neo Nazis and other fundamentalist fanatics became much more prominent in the 90s. Many of the recent mass shootings have a terrorist element. Not all, but "many;" probably more than news and government will admit to.

Unrestricted social media and "instant news" has a lot of influence as well; again, a phenomenon that began in the 90s and has grown exponentially since. Mass Shootings filmed with a Go-Pro and posted on Facebook or Instagram are not unknown, or even terribly uncommon.

"Global Warming" isn't particularly blameless -- whether climate change is real or not, record heat and record cold waves stress unstable people and can trigger violent rampages.

Take your pick of reasons, because every case is unique. What explains one atrocity will completely miss the next.
 
Between 1999-2014, over 400,000 people were killed by guns in the USA.

However, 60% of those were suicides.

Nonetheless, the USA is consistently the place to be if you want to be killed by a bullet.

https://everytownresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/GunTrends_murders_per_1000.png

Not really, the numbers are tiny and for the most part in black neighborhoods.

Otherwise it's just like the rest of the 1st world with a touch of the 3rd.

None of that has fuck all to do with mass shootings though. :)


Here are some more tiny numbers:


http://68.media.tumblr.com/755e0e7591d6897447c2fe562c795257/tumblr_oj8v2r8Pb41qz6f9yo1_500.jpg

A toddler has shot a person every week, for two years now




That 'gun-free' zones even need to be designated, is part of the problem. Those are things you expect to hear about in third-world countries and developing nations.
That most don't see this as a problem, is also part of the problem.
 
Most of these shootings don't happen in "gun-free zones," though they do often happen in places we simply and reasonably assume will be gun-free, like schools and airports and movie theaters.

Schools are gun free zones, so are most theaters, churches and government buildings.

Only an idiot assumes they will be gun free, that's where all the fuckin' shooting happen.

And I'm not confident any "good guy with a gun" on the scene of any of them would have made much of a difference.

Sometimes they do sometimes they don't.

Anyway, the question is, why did this start happening, back in the '90s? Any shooter in earlier decades would have gotten just as much publicity.

No they wouldn't have there wasn't anywhere near the coverage or distribution in earlier decades. More people have internet today than a TV in the 80's.

Toss in the new and brilliant gun fee zone laws and a dash of lunatics? Perfect storm for anyone who wants 15min of fame, practically an invitation.

This change, whatever caused it, is not a matter of gun availability -- a shooter could have gotten his hands on just as deadly a weapon in 1970 as now. This is a behavioral problem.

Partly, I agree with lady F on this one....big pharma has the whole country junkied out on all kinds of shit.

But also providing an incentivized and readily available environment to make these things happen is also a factor.
 
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I see no reason why they wouldn't admit to it.

Same reason they won't say "radical Islam" or admit that Islam and the culture it promotes have a large part in that particular behavior.

A behavior not supported by all but still hundreds of millions of Muslims.

The though police from the regressive left (SJW's) won't have any of those racist facts running around!!!
 
But, again, that was just as true in 1970 or 1980 as it is now.
Dream on.

Even into the 90s, the phrase "Film at Eleven" was fairly common in newscasts. Digital video from every smartphone within five hundred yards was unheard of. What digital video that was available was 640x480 resolution and nearly useless for broadcast.

Big city TV stations had microwave links to news choppers -- so they could cover things like the "Slow-speed chase of OJ Simpson," but cities of less than a quarter million or so wouldn't have even that much "instant news." They would have to wait for a courier to physically bring videotape of remote coverage to the studios and/or wait for station lawyers to negotiate a price for "eyewitness" video.
 
I have a concealed carry license and take my gun every where I go, I hope I never have to use it, but if I am in a situation where one of the crazies are, trust me, I will be shooting back...

To the tune of "Onward Christian Soldiers", perhaps? ;)
 
Looks like gun free zones are the reason for the mass shootings. Imagine that logic...lol derp!
 
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